Over the past year i have tried Vyvanse (basically adderall, but better in my opinion) for both recreational and school related reasons about 5 times, and when I’m on it everything just comes together for me. Life makes sense and everything just flows….
(I should mentions that I’m ADD or ADHD)
The nagging dysthymic mood I’m usually plagued by is non-existent. While i don’t want to get a prescription and become dependent on the drug, i do want to study my thought and behavior patterns while on it so that i can try to emulate them in my everyday life…hopefully resulting in more fullfilling, satisfying life.
Has anyone had any experience in self improvement that they think resulted from occasional ADD medication use? Did you transfer over your outlook on life to your everyday experience?
Same goes with other drugs. Were you able to use a newly discovered mindset and/or way of thinking/acting/feeling even when you weren’t high?
Wow, this post really hits home for me! This is my exact philosophy with pills and drugs in general so that I do not have to be dependent on any substance, but rather allow myself to be reminded of how to act in the sober world by occasionally turning to adderall/weed/whatever. I do have some form of ADD/ADHD and I must admit that sometimes it is easier to just pop a Vyvanse (totally agree with you by the way that it’s better than adderall).
Growing up I had always been told that ecstasy was a horrible drug and if I tried it I could die. When I got to college, I did a research paper on MDMA and discovered that it had once been used for therapy. I was fortunate enough to know someone who had pure MDMA and I told myself I would learn from this drug, rather than depend on it. And since then I have felt that way about many other drugs. Yes it’s easier to pop a pill, but I agree with you in that it’s better to emulate the thought pattern so that we can lead a more satisfying life. It’s never fun to worry about running out of pills and not being able to function that day/week.
Sounds like a sound strategy, but wouldn’t you just be lying to yourself? I’ve tried vyvanse and it seems to kick you dopamine for every little accomplishment that even a mundane chore feels like you climbed a mtn with a helicopter. I could never tell myself to be as proud or happy with myself as when on vv–but I can see it as unnecessary and fake. I guess that’s what’s been working for me, cause I don’t take it anymore.
My ADD medication (adderall) did not transfer to my everyday life. thatd be awesome. ive never tried that other medication. xanax however, did. i saw what happened when i acted on all those irrational fears that had always held me back. now i am much more anxiety-free and courageous in general without the xanax. wish i could say the same for the ADD, but meditation seems to help the most!
@versai, That’s an interesting perspective. Who’s to say that the way you feel is fake? Sure, when you’re on meds they cause a dopamine kick which makes you happy, but this is a natural response that can happen as a result of many non-drug related things.
@mybee42, That’s exactly what i was getting at, using drugs as a therapy. It’s been proven that various “recreational” drugs can have lasting positive effects on people from just one to a few times using it, just trying to see if i could do that in my current situation.
It is funny that this has been posted, this day, the day I have chosen to not take an adderall. Note that I do not have ADD or ADHD. But I have come across some and have taken one a day for three days, after I get off work and have eaten. They most definitely chill me out, and I have noticed that on them I’d rather not smoke weed as I am already ‘good’. As I do not want to let my body become dependent on them in such a short time I will save the rest for one of those ‘hazy blah’ days. I have to say that during the come down I do not get a temper, or get short with people like I do from pain killers.
Not many people know what Vyvanse even is, which im sure is why you felt it nececary to place “Adderall” in front of Vyvanse On the topic description. I know this because I always find myself instinctively doing the same when trying to convey its effectiveness in conversation.The title of this form tickled me. This morning around 3 am I was having a long winded conversation with this girl (who happens take adderall) from my A.A. home group about alcoholism and substance abuse. I’m personally am an episodic drinker and chronic pot smoker (no pun intended) with a very addictive personality, and was explaining how these things didn’t seem to bring me happiness like they used to. So point blank she asks me, “what does happiness mean to you?” trying to be as serious as possible with recovery on my mind and all, I could not help but answer ; Vyvanse. Almost as if it was a reflex.
I was put on ritilan at age 7 and by age 18 was taking 100mg of Vyvanse prescribed daily. Mind you this was on the days I did not abuse it. “The nagging dysthymic mood I’m usually plagued by is non-existent.” (That statement could not be more true) However the thing you have to realize is it stops working which is why the doc moved me up from one 30mg daily to one 50mg daily to one 70mg daily and when the highest dosage they made stoped working I was moved to two 50’s daily. He wouldnt go higher and I was literally in hell when this stoped working.
@captdugan, yeah, it’s one of the reasons I’m studying medicine… I hope I can assist people who really need the therapy by using these kinds of therapeutic drugs…. I wouldn’t want to prescribe something to someone that will cause them to be dependent. It just provides us with the tools we gotta learn and if a drug can do that.. great :)
I’ve been diagnosed with ADD when I was younger. the pills made me sick at the time but I sure do love amphetamines. I love that I can clean for 5 hours straight. I don’t care if I feel tweaked out because it feels like such valuable use of my time. I’m naturally lazy.
Yeah but it doesn’t really take it away, just covers it up and makes it worse. If you keep burying the pain and trying to run from it, you will make it more convoluted and difficult to figure out. Avoidance does not work. Suppression does not work. Aren’t you sick of running? Just fucking face it, yeah it will be uncomfortable for a while but discomfort isn’t going to kill you. You will thank yourself later if you’re brave enough to do it.
<p class=”p1″>I have a prescription and still choose to only take them sparingly. This may be a plausible suggestion for you. I have found when you take them every day the effects aren’t as strong anyway; you build a tolerance & you become reliant on the pills. When taking them sporadically, I truly pick up on what exactly it is doing to my mind. This way I really enjoy vyvanse in a non-addictive mindset. It is important to appreciate & welcome your ADHD for it has given you a chance to see the world in a different aspect then many others. There are many positive attributes that those with ADHD acquire (151 you can find here: http://www.addcoach4u.com/positivesofadd.html ) so I don’t portray it is necessary to silence & “cure” ADHD. However, once in a while it is really an exceptional experience to experience your day without such a scattered brain. When taking vyvanse I often feel a burst of energy, then only to calm down and feel completely relaxed and well-prepared for what my day holds. I have often even become emotional during these calm & meditative states in awe of how put-together and great I feel. I attend to only keep my intake of vyvanse to a minimum so the effects can always be as intense for me!
Used adderall a bunch of times in college. Felt great. Didn’t mess with my sleep patterns at all.
My roommate took same dosage as me and could not sleep for a couple days. I loved it. I’d smoke a bowl was I felt it wearing off and felt even better. Body high + focus and clarity. Awesome feeling. Probably a good thing I don’t have any hookups any more.