Aspartame, Diet Pop, Equal | Carcinogen?

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Hey guys,
I am irrate at how half of my viewpoints on this world are castles made of sand; it seems like every source that I go to, I can only leave with tiny grains of shaky value. For example, I’ll watch grass roots documentary on how aspartame introduction into society caused brain tumors to spike tremendously in the U.S. because they claim that aspartame is an excitotoxin. You turn around and type aspartame into google and you get the cancer society telling you the opposite.

So my question to you:
Where do you find bonafide info (for anything)?
What can you tell me about aspartame (personal knowledge, facts, sites, vids, etc)?
Do any of you guys feel like your worldview is also a sand castle on certain topics?

June 25, 2012 at 12:49 pm
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KellyM (107) (@kellah) 5 years ago ago

@jvie, I feel as though all the knowledge we have is filtered. there are people who tell us there beliefs. there is no way of knowing anytrhing for sure i think. especially since most of our information is based on what the governement tells us (which i think is at least half a lie). go bt your instinct. thats what i do. no body knows whats good or bad for you better than yourself

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dylan (17) (@dylmill) 5 years ago ago

@jvie, I’ve noticed the only way I can get info I can believe in 100 percent is when I come to a realization by observing something. No amount of literature, videos or external sources made by others can have information that I would want to completely believe. Granted, one can learn and discover as a result of this external information, or think about something they read and notice how it applies to them, and that could be a great way to learn. Follow your own intuition, I agree with KellyM.

Most things that were created by nature/god/the creator (not man made) will bring you closer to healing/your natural state. Most things man made/altered seem to bring you away from your natural state. Even if it happens little by little, it builds up. There is never a standstill, you are always progressing or digressing. Consuming artificial sweeteners and the like might, although not always noticeably, bring you further from your innate state of being. I hope that makes some sense. In my case, the one ingredient I avoid eating at all costs happens to be aspartame. However there are probably worse things out there, and I have no way of proving to you why I avoid aspartame, as I have never really tried to observe its dirtect effects on me.

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Ben (221)M (@benjamin) 5 years ago ago

^^ I think there’s alot of wisdom to be found in Dylan’s comment

Especially with the “go with your intuition” bit. I mean, drink a can of soda, and then after you’re done try to get in touch with how it made your body feel. Then do the same thing with water. Eat some fast food, and pay attention to how you feel after. Then eat a good healthy meal with leafy greens and do the same. I’d guess you probably already know the results of this self-experiment, and thereby also know what you want to do with your diet.

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jim (82) (@jvie) 5 years ago ago

I’d have to agree with all of you. Intuition + man made / more processing that is done, worse it is for you. I avoid things that I notice irk me, the too good to be trues, etc. seems to be a promising site for health related topics.

I have recently moved away from sunscreen after reading about it on the site and started eating superfoods and drinking tea for its high antioxidant levels; I’ve never been darker and haven’t burned since I started. :)

Thanks for the input btw!

I guess the takeaway is to stay forever intuitive, curious, and critcal.

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Brandon Phillips (142) (@brandonphillips) 5 years ago ago


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Rich Murray (0) (@richmurray) 5 years ago ago

methanol from aspartame, wood and cigarette smoke, and
many sources is made by ADH1 enzyme into formaldehyde
within cells inside walls of human blood vessels,
harming adjacent tissues, the WC Monte paradigm:
Rich Murray 2012.06.27

See WC Monte’s two 1-hour video lectures May 2012 .

The 200 mg aspartame in a 12-oz can of aspartame drink
is 11% by weight methanol, 22 mg, which is soon released
from the GI tract into the blood, where quickly any tissues
with high levels of the ADH1 enzyme within the cells of
blood capillary walls and adjacent tissues, especially
liver, kidney, brain, retina, etc., in humans only, turn
the methanol into formaldehyde within these cells, which,
being highly reactive, quickly binds with and disables
DNA, RNA, and proteins inside the cells, causing cell death,
attracting macrophages (white blood cells), which also die,
creating durable, cumulative, evolving complex micro lesions.

This affects the fetus, as well, or not so well…

So, there are many resulting novel modern
“diseases of civilization” in humans only, for each type of
damaged tissue, including Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis,
lupus, arthritis, the birth defects spina bifida, autism,
and Asperger’s, many specific cancers, and chronic ailments
of liver, kidney, heart, lung, joint, skin, muscle, etc.

The Monte methanol/formaldehyde toxicity paradigm
MMFTP is backed by 740 references, given free online as
full pdf texts by Prof. (retired 2004, Arizona State University,
Nutrition and Food Sciences) Woodrow C. Monte,,
along with his 2012 January 240 page text
“While Science Sleeps”, with two free chapters on
“Autism and Other Birth Defects”, and “Multiple Sclerosis”,
and free full earlier articles and references on MMFTP.

Other methanol/formaldehyde sources include
wood, peat and cigarette smoke, some fresh coffees,
fermented and smoked foods, fruits juices vegetables heated
and sealed wet in jars and cans, some dark wines and liquors,
bacteria in the colon, genetic flaws in metabolism, vehicle
fumes, leaky fossil fuel stoves and heaters, processed wood
products of all kinds, mobile homes, old Ditto type purple ink
mimeograph duplicating machines in schools and offices,
chemical biology autopsy mortuary facilities, heated wood
in particleboard, pressed wood and paper factories,
and many personal care cleaners and products…

methanol/formaldehyde paradigm for multiple sclerosis,
free full 56 page chapter 9 pdf, While Science Sleeps,
146 full text references online, Prof. Woodrow C. Monte:
Rich Murray 2012.03.20
list of 740 free full text pdf medical research references

Aspartame: The hidden danger [methanol/formaldehyde]
in our midst and how it kills us, 12 page review of
While Science Sleeps text (Woodrow C Monte),
International Health News, whole June issue,
Editor: William R Ware PhD: Rich Murray 2012.06.08
free full text pdf 16 pages

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