ive been reading alot about DMT and ayahuasca lately and im really interested in trying it. does anyone have have any helpful information such as how to get my hands on some or reliable recipes for brewing it myself? Or anyone with experience on the matter that may have any tips or thoughts for me? any type of input would be appreciated
I’m in the same boat as you, @jkenealy127. But watching DMT: the spirit molecule I feel like i’m going to hold off for a while until I do it. The movie is on netflix and it goes into the science, the experience and other things. Someone said in the video that like all psychedelics, set and setting matter immensely. However; not set and setting externally but internally like your mind and all your inner schemas and how you perceive the universe.
So for me i’m trying to become more concrete in my beliefs and trying to further my inner setting before I take a venture into the unknown.
But it all depends what you’re looking for in it. I knew a girl, she went into a small meadow, smoked some DMT then 15 minutes later came back and was like “woahhhh mann that was doppppeeeeee”
It’s all in what you want from the experience, if you want anything at all.
@jkenealy127, I watched a documentary on the history channel about ayahuasca and it looked like some pretttty crazy shit! And i believe that is it not easily that easily obtainable because i think it grow deep in these forests of some foreign countries? I oculd be wrong though. I would never try it because it it such a powerful and life changing trip, which lasts 24 by the way. How weak is your stomach? Since you have to drink this stuff and then puke it back up Id say you need to be pretty tough for that stuff lol Now DMT is another story. Definitely easier to get, in my neck of the woods anyway. And I like the idea that it is a short away from your body, i guess depending on how much and how potent your stuff is. So all in all, I would stick with the diamethyltriptamine if i were you!
This Saturday December 8th, 2012 Dennis McKenna will be giving a lecture on the “Transformation of Consciousness through sacred plants: DMT, Ayahuasca, & Psilocybin.” from 1:00pm – 4:30 pm @ The Quarry Arts Building Room 170, 715 Hill St Madison, Wi. Admission is 20$.
I’ll be attending this tomorrow and will post back with any cool information he shares that isn’t already known.
@jkenealy127, I’ve experienced both DMT and Ayahuasca, and have actually been working with/studying Ayahuasca for over 3 years now, so I have a pretty good idea of what both experiences entail.
It should be noted that while Ayahuasca contains DMT, smoking the extracted version of DMT produces very different effects than drinking the traditional, medicinal brew. Smoking DMT will last 10-20 minutes and can be overwhelmingly intense– almost too much for your brain to process in such a short amount of time. Smoking DMT also lacks, in my opinion, the spiritual “essence” that plant medicine contains. When drinking Ayahuasca, you can feel the “teacher spirit” coming from the wisdom of the plants.
I have taken Ayahuasca with shamans in Peru, as well as prepared my own brew here where I live where the plants grow locally. I cannot stress enough how spiritual Aya as a brew is– it is medicine for your spirit, soul, mind and body. It should not be taken casually, like you would simply eat some mushrooms. There is a lot of tradition behind Ayahuasca ceremonies, and for good reason– you are opening your consciousness to an entirely new world!
It’s best to experience Ayahuasca with someone who has experience administering the plant, with someone who can sing you the traditional “Icaros” to protect and watch over you during your experience. Ayahuasca is very powerful and healing, but can also be physically difficult– there is sometimes vomiting, shitting, crying, sighing, strange sounds– and often you feel very little control over your body, which is why it is imperative to have someone to watch over you. The Icaros are also integral in keeping the energy sound during the experience.
There is so much I could tell you about Aya. Send me a private message if you’d like to learn more; but I cannot emphasize enough that Aya is out of this world and not to be “dabbled” with in a casual sense.
@yerhiighness, Generally, the Aya experience on average lasts 4-6 hours. It can, on rare cases or depending on how much one drinks, last 8-12 hours, but that is very rare, and generally only occurs if one keeps drinking more and more.
I don’t know much about Ayahuasca, but I have experienced DMT once. I would highly recommend it as it was honestly like nothing else I’ve ever experienced. I basically just lay there for 10-15 minutes with my eyes closed and saw the most vivid, beautiful colours. Overall, it just felt out of this world and I lost my sense of self and nothing else mattered but what I was seeing/experiencing. Obviously DMT experiences will differ for each individual, and I would recommend taking it someplace where you feel comfortable and at ease. Good luck :)
@joliejulia06, Thank you so much for responding your input was very helpful. I’ve been looking for someone who has knowledge and experience like you do. i have been looking at different recipes for brews and have found 100’s and just based on the nature of the internet, I have no idea which ones are reliable. I was wondering if you could share your recipe with me if you dont mind. I was also was wondering
should i try any other drugs/hallucinogens/ psychedelics before Aya, so im not overwhelmed by the nature of the experience?
any tips for the getting in to the right mindset before drinking aya?
should I go into looking for something or just let it all come to me?
any other suggestions or details about this entire subject would be very much appreciated.
sorry, for some reason the site is not letting me private message you
@jkenealy127, You should take Ayahuasca in the presence of a teacher or Shaman.
And yes, Ayahuasca should also not be your first psychedelic. . . Ayahuasca is the end-all of entheogens, and should be treated as such. You may want to try psilocybin first, or mescaline, as these are easy to dose, are natural in forms of plants, and can be obtained in legal ways.
@rami @cyberdream I have already replied to this comment and it has been mysteriously deleted and/or removed. My reply stated that YES RAMI, THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE STOLEN MINE. I will keep repeating this until you take your comment down or admit you have stolen my work and credit it where it is due. The text in Rami’s comment appears on http://www.theuniverseismental.com and also on http://www.dmt-nexus.me If this is not addressed I will take legal action as I do not appreciate the fatc you have removed my previous comment showing you up as a word thief.
No Rami there are no words to describe DMT, that is why you have stolen mine. That whole passage you have written claiming to be ‘your’ description of your experience is taken straight from my dmt trip report which has been published in two places – on the DMT nexus quality experience reports
Do you make a habit of stealing others words and passing them off as your own? Kindly credit my work to me please and don’t try to pass it off as your own – you can never get away with doing that on the internet. So have you taken DMT? I would be interested to hear your experiences.
@rami @cyberdream I have already replied to this comment and it has been mysteriously deleted and/or removed. My reply stated that YES RAMI, THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE STOLEN MINE. I will keep repeating this until you take your comment down or admit you have stolen my work and credit it where it is due.
If this is not address I will take legal action as I do not appreciate the fatc you have removed my previous comment showing you up as a word thief.