I’m new to HE but have visited the site sproadically for months.
Anyway, I was wondering what you all thought would be a good choice in drug (outside of alcohol, weed, adderall, etc.) to serve as my first psychadelic experience. I’ve smoked a good amount, drank plenty, but never took the next step. I have no major plans this weekend and I figured I might as well try it, and I’m very comfortable with my mind and spirit so I’m not worried about having/overcoming a bad trip.
Any info/stories/suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone!
LSD or mushrooms.
Mushrooms more so in that the dose is easier to measure – LSD you never know what you’re going to get.
Eat 1/8th ounce of dried mushrooms or “normal” potency, or 1/16th ounce of dried mushrooms if they are “Strong” or azurescens. Most mushrooms require 1/8th ounce, dry weight.
DMT is not useful unless you have some experience.
Welcome to HE!
Mushrooms are my hallucinogen of choice. They’re all natural, have no addictive of negative side effects, and, they’re just fucking awesome. I like them because they give you no easy thrills; the trip can be euphoric or terrifying but you’ll always learn something about yourself.
Also, there is a great degree of flexibility in the dose. You can have an out of body/heroic dose, a moderate dose, or just a casual dose.
@ijesuschrist, I’ve heard good things about DMT; do you think I should wait and use it later rather than as my “first”?
Also, good looks on the dosage suggestions. I would have just eaten a shit ton and waited for them to hit me lol. Thanks!
@miracleman2323, I would never tell someone to lead with DMT, that’s for sure. DMT is among the last of the things on most people’s lists.
I started with LSD and it was incredible. The natural aspect of shrooms, as well as the reliability of the product over stamps, makes for it to more than likely be successful your first time. I’ve gotten bum tabs before and, lemme tell ya, nothing is more frustrating than wanting to trip, being ready to trip, getting all antsy, and it just not happening.
You’ll have a good time no matter what. Be in good company with a positive mind…it won’t get much better than those moments.
Shrooms were my first, but i like acid better. Another you might want to try if its your first time is Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. You chew them up. They are relatively cheap.
@miracleman2323, shrooms all the way. I’ve explored all three (shrooms ?, acid twice, and DMT once) and definitely agree with some of the above posts in terms of being with good people in a positive atmosphere/mindset. weed goes great with the come up and throughout the journey on shrooms. Music, outdoors, introspective thinking/ discussions, basically anything are like new experiences. Also, I have heard, and pretty much do it every time I boom now, that A) having an empty stomach and B) drinking orange juice will help amplify the trip.
I would hold off on the DMT, its a shorter trip and much harder to grasp afterwards.
LSD was very similar to shrooms for me, but the chemical aspect made them less appealing to me personally.
@travissssssssss, terrible advice! The seeds give massive nausea for most people
@miracleman2323, Your first trip is your most important. You will learn the most if you have a good dose. Since it is your first trip, I would err on the side of caution, though, simply because there is no way to know what to expect with psychadelics – they are simply unable to be grasped until you do them… but again, I would rather have your first trip at a moderate dosage so it has a lasting effect on you.
With that being said, my above dosages will give you a proper feel for the mushroom. Slightly higher doses (150% of stated) would be probably the upper limit of your first time, and a bit daring. But you sound like a good kid (man? dude?) so I respect that.
Just don’t stress about NOTHIN’. Go with the flow.
@albinomongoose so true! Having only shroomed twice (and loved it both times) I quickly learned that they are all about how you approach the trip. And I’m wondering the same thing with acid. I’ve sort of noticed that most people who like shrooms don’t like acid, and vice versa. Can anyone comfirn/deny/etc. this theory, or why it would even be that way?
@jermophobe, I’ve never taken acid (though I’d like to), but from anecdotal reports it seems bad trips are rarer with LSD (can anyone confirm?). Other than that, I understand they’re pretty similar. After all, their molecular structures are comparable.
@miracleman2323, Yeah, shrooms would totally be a good first time psychedelic trip out :) Acid is fun, too, and so is mescaline. I actually did some shrooms the other night and totally dead serious when I say that I had a very enlightening and life-changing spiritual experience. Totally fun :)
@miracleman2323, I strongly suggest your first psychedelic experience be under the influence of LSD. The reason I say this is because of the role LSD plays as a psychedelic. Shrooms are the adrenaline-pumping, heart-pounding experiences that takes you on a roller coaster ride. LSD is the euphoric, happy, and one-love experience that makes you reflect on yourself and just be purely fuckin’ happy for however long. (and DMT is the life-changing universal awakening that will fuck your mind) A better comparison between shrooms and LSD is related to your mental process: on shrooms (which are fun, I don’t want to scare you away from these), when I thought about cops, social anxieties, parents somehow finding out, I began to panic because I was tripping so hard I pieced together a train of thought that made me believe my mom was on her way to see me because she knew I was tripping on shrooms. On LSD, I thought about those same things, but then I thought, “nah it’s cool, that shit ain’t happening” and happily went back to my delicious fruit juice while watching Enter the Void (best movie to watch while tripping, I mean it). DMT is something no one should even consider until they have a quite a few trips of different variety under their belt. I think you should try LSD first because (in my opinion, of course) LSD is like a comedy movie and shrooms is like an action or horror movie; they’re both great and fun experiences, but you should “watch the comedy” for a more peaceful introduction into psychedelics. And I highly suggest smoking a small pipe bowl on the come-up. It makes the high more recognizable so you go even deeper into it (and are less scared by it, if at all).
@lytning91, I’ve narrowed it down to either shrooms or acid, thanks for the input! I definitely won’t go into it worried or afraid, I’ll be around the people closest to me ready for anything. Thanks again, I appreciate it!
@travissssssssss I’ve never heard of those but I’ll look into them, thanks man!
@whiskeywit I’ve never heard of the empty stomach or orange juice techniques, I’ll definitely have to hit them up! And thanks for all the info, I think I’ll hold off on DMT but the shroom and acid trips sound great. Thanks!
@kazi That’s what I’ve heard but wasn’t sure, thanks for clarifying. That would be an awful first experience to get nothing, so I’m leaning toward shrooms.
@ijesuschrist You have some great insights, man (and man/kid/dude…they all apply to me, I’m 21 and clinging to my youth haha) and I thank you from the bottom of my heart, I hardly “know” you but I can tell you give great advice and are a good person. I’ll most likely take it easy just because it’s my first experience but it all depends on the mood I’m in. I definitely won’t be stressing or worried after all the feedback I’ve collected, thanks again brother!
@hazelwhispers Awesome! I’ll most likely do shrooms or acid but I’m interested in trying mescaline in the future. And your experience the other night sounds like EXACTLY the thing I’m looking for! Thank you!
@reinman Ahhh now I can’t decide! It will definitely either be DMT or LSD and I love the comparisons you summoned between the two. The comedy aspect seems much more inviting to a first timer; at this point, it’s between whatever I can get my hands on this weekend but if I had to choose I wouldn’t know WHAT to do. Also, I’ll have to rent Enter The Void :) haha thanks for the tips dude!
@miracleman2323, being as realistic as possible, I can understand that, as you said, what “I can get my hands on” is what one would most likely end up doing. As I stated, DMT is something that cannot, in my opinion, be fully appreciated without first taking steps toward it (in this instance, shrooms or acid).
People tend to describe shrooms as more visual and more physical than LSD. LSD seems to create a hyperactivity in the processing of information rather than the perception of potential information (thus visuals comes secondary to perspective shifts). If I am being totally honest, my best times and my most abundant purchases have been with/of LSD. The changes are so crisp, clear, and vivid…yet those words hardly seem to do it justice.
Don’t get me wrong, though: shrooms are a world both similar and distinct from this previous description. I have had experience with both, and I will put forward the warning I was given before I first decided to take the dive: shrooms will take you on their journey…they tend to go where they want to, and the twists and turns feel more like a roller-coaster you are bound to for the next however many hours. The highs will be the highest and the lows the lowest…could be all of one, could be all of the other…could be a mix. No matter the circumstance, you’re simply along for the ride.
With LSD, the extremities and the control shift: you have a lot more say in how you want the trip to go, but you don’t necessarily go as far to one pole or the other as you would with shrooms. With this in mind, I recommend LSD as a first-time preference.
Despite how convinced I am that the aforementioned is legitimate information, everyone reacts to these substances differently. All I can attempt to do is help you gain a little bit more perspective before you discover your own fully. No matter what happens, so long as you go into the self-discovery intending to benefit from the experience and stay positive no matter which roads to traverse, you will grow in ways that are difficult, if not impossible, to to achieve otherwise.
@lytning91, Wow! There is some great info in this post, and you presented some interesting insights on the feelings of each drug. The way you described LSD seems a lot less intimidating than what I’ve heard in the past; my perception was entirely flipped between mushrooms and LSD. I thought acid took you for a ride and shrooms kind of enhanced the experiences around you, but what you’re saying is kind of perpendicular to that. Very interesting! Seeing as I’ve never tripped, I can’t weigh in on anything yet, but I sincerely thank you for taking the time to help me out like you have.
I’m still undecided, and like you said at the beginning of your post, it will ultimately be up to what I can find. Wish me luck, and again thank you!
Mushrooms all the way, I would take them over LSD any day. I know a lot of people that have had bad trips on shrooms but I really don’t think there is such a thing as a bad mushroom trip, just more introspective trips. Mushrooms have a way of bringing your skeletons out of the closet for you to confront. Don’t think of it as a bad trip, think of it as a therapy session. They will show you your bad qualities and it can be a bit jarring but use it as a learning experience to improve yourself :)
@cadeus333, Seeing as I’ve never tripped, I can’t be totally sure of how I’ll react; as of now, I’m not afraid of anything that will be thrown at me, whether introspective or external. I’m completely comfortable with who I am as a person (recent development) and my entire past, and I don’t think any external visions and/or sounds could scare me any more than the next person. Thanks for the info, and I’ll definitely take your advice to use it as a learning/growing experience. That’s exactly why I want to trip; I’m not doing this to get fucked up, I want to find out more about myself, the world around me, and how the two interact!
LSD is cheaper from my experience. I’ve paid $20 for two double hits so a total of 4 hits, and bought a quarter of shrooms for $80. Two very different but respectable trips. Acid you will trip longer and more than likely harder. Mushrooms are usually a very chill 4-6 hours. Acid can range from 6-12. Have a good trip!