Assuming an omniscient and omnipotent creator:
Would you make your existence obvious? Would you eliminate suffering?
What else would you do differently?
What reasons could there be for God not doing these things?
I don’t intend for this to be a debate on the existence of God. I personally accept the idea of a God, but I understand and respect the opinions of thinking individuals who do not.
With my perception of the 1 infinite creator I wouldn’t do anything. I’d let you, humanity, and all things living in this universe exist and that’s it. Grow to be creative to fix yourselves.
I would eliminate the mystery of my being so people would stop debating about my existence. I would also help out scientist with the existence of other life forms in the universe, so people wouldnt be so touchy about the existence. I would reform government, or just eliminate it and make just a system of court for justice. And I would take everyones trash to the universal dumpster off of planet earth lolol
I think other earths are in the same boat as we are right now anyways. Everything has a reaction, so everyones actions has a domino effect with someone else. I would make another earth, because the humans, or animals that inhabit the earth make their own fate. Maybe they would do it better than we are. The people with no hope for the human race, have no hope for themselves. They contribute to the negative energy on the earth. Why would you lose hope if we’re still alive. You know?
I could not even entertain the idea that I could do a better job, I have no idea what that job entails, I don’t know the end game or the best way to get there and if I did I’d presume I’d do exactly how it has been done.
From what I’ve gathered from the Bible, and this is my personal understanding and I can’t speak for anyone elses interpretation, the story of Job gives insight. Satan challenged God and said “The only reason Job is faithful is because you protect him, remove the hedge and he will curse your name”.
God has it in his power to just destroy Satan on the spot but this would mean God rules by power, not by right. So God levels the playing field, so that both have equal influence, equal chance, God could not lose a dirrect challenge so the only way for God to be proven rightful sovereign is in a fair fight. The deciding factor being the choice of humans, the choice to love or hate. Every choice we make reflects what choice we are making, every choice is either made in the spirit of love or hate and that is why we have choice and that is why there is suffering.
Without suffering there would be no choice because we would not even know what hate is.
Let me tell you another story, and this you will not find in the Bible.
God had two sons, Yin and Yang. One is responsible for all relationships and the other is responsible for all destructions, basically one brings in the shopping and the other takes out the trash. Neither is good or evil, they both have a role in the universe that without either of them the universe could not even exist.
When they work together they are perfect, even equal to God, but seperate they are only half perfect each. Because neither is perfect, either can make mistakes, (like Satan made a mistake by challenging God yet because Satan is so vital to the very existence of the universe he could not just be destroyed but his challenge had to be answered in a fair match up otherwise it would be known that God only rules because he is too powerful, not because he deserves such loyalty).
It is not fair to see destruction as evil and creation as good, because both can make mistakes and both can do the right thing. An example is cancer, it grows, this is a case of a mistake by creation, but as a cancer goes into remission, this is destruction doing the right thing. There are many examples of both creation and destruction doing both right and wrong, and that is because they are only half perfect each.
@cristinelizabeth, I’m glad I heard this perspective.
While I do believe that there is more good in the world and in human nature than bad, I think bad is somewhat more powerful in it’s effects. For example, I’ve read for a healthy relationship the ratio of good-to-bad interactions should to be at least 5-to-1. If it’s not, people tend to seperate.
Another example could be with money. Say there are two people with a yearly salary of $50,000 USD. $40,000 is taken from one of their yearly salaries and given to the other so that one makes only $10,000 and the other makes $90,000. The benefits of the extra money the richer person has would not outweigh the poverty of the other.
Any thoughts on why (or if) bad tends to outweigh good?
The problem here is that we like to imagine God like we are. We imagine a holy, enlightened being that is full of love. Now this enlightened being FIGHTS (e.g. with Satan) and has severe ego problems so that he/she/it needs WORSHIP FROM US to feel good ? I’m not trying to attack believers, I just want to show how inconsistent our picture of god is.
And because we like to help others we think that God also likes to help others. That might be right, but when we try to help others we act like: Go away, let me do it, you can’t do it, I will do it and you watch how it works. When God tries to help someone it’s like: Here is the way, but you have to go it yourself.
A mother does not constantly watch over her children. She just gives them love and all things they need to learn. Then she lets them go… to play and experience for themselves, to gain their own experience.
It is like a King and all of his subjects love him because if they don’t he will have them put to death, the King deciding to abolish the death penalty just to see who will choose to keep loving him and who will choose to hate him. (But of course I don’t think it is that cut and dry, that God is that petty)
@geoffmilburn, I’d say 1/3rd of humans are dicks, 2/3rds are decent enough, but bullies rule the school yard precisely because they are dicks. Dicks have a way of making life harder, one way or another.
@trek79, I know that there are many metaphors in the bible(and you know, too), but many (other) people don’t recognize them (That’s why I said what I said above). What makes it even harder is that sometimes the story has only a metaphorical meaning and sometimes it’s meant literally. But I also think that some people messed around with the bible over time, and added or manipulated the content. That said, I only know small parts of the bible.
@christian92, I wouldn’t say it was manipulated so much as lost in translation, the Bible has been translated so many times that the difference between metaphor and literal has been blurred. I think their may have been some kind of marker in the original writings that told them which was which, but there are occasions like the captivity in Babylon where the Bible only survived by word of mouth until the were freed.
There is at least one version of the Hebrew language that is dead, the language Moses spoke was lost at Babylon, then they lost the Babylonian language to Persian, then Greek then Aramaic. Then Rome translates Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic into Latin, then the translation to old English from Latin. (Martin Luther translated not from Latin but from the oldest available texts, which cause the begining of Protestants, Goes to show how much translation had been changed by one language)