Just a thought, but definitely a juicy one. I posed this question to myself while listening to a sermon. What if the “Lord” and Jesus were simply part of a race of extraterrestrials that came upon this planet and took control. They wanted to wait until we had developed to a higher level of intelligence to show themselves, but wanted to keep a firm grasp on our lives. So these beings established a religion that:
a) Tells us how to live our lives.
b) Involves us literally worshiping this being.
c) Gets us nice and ready to bow down to them when they show themselves. (the second coming)
This theory would explain all the miracles Jesus performed to gather believers. For superior race, such ‘miracles’ would be child’s play.
Imagine going back in time to when the first humans were around. If you showed them your smart-phone and told them you were a God, chances are they would believe you, follow you, and do everything you commanded.
This is now a topic that definitely interests me deeply. Please oh please give me you’re thoughts on this.
I’ve wondered if given enough time, a species could evolve enough to lose its physical form and become intertwined with the fabric of the universe. I hope so, it’d be pretty cool.
I guess. there’s no absolute rule to say life must be organic and/or material.
Who knows what a species could do given 14 billion years to evolve, I’m sure the oldest species out there must have scary levels of intelligence.
Humanity and it’s creations is a perfect example of a highly developed alien race on Earth. There’s no other creature in this world that can self-destruct our own planet with just a push of a button.
Highly developed? Hardly, we’re barely out of the jungle.
Yeah. In a social perspective, we really haven’t changed much based on history.
Being “out of the jungle” makes us advanced, on the perspective of the “alien” side. Being highly developed has no concept of good or bad. It just is. The complex systems we’ve created today are pretty much “alien” to us.
Our Sun can incinerate us given the right circumstances, but we need the sun for our survival.
Based on your comment ^, Would you agree that heavenly bodies are intertwined with the fabric of the universe?
I think that everything is intertwined with the fabric of the universe.
Sometimes I think there is life on other planets, even in our solar system alone. It is just that we can’t perceive them given our dominant senses and application of science.
This is what we all are:
I have no idea about you, but I have no problem being a jellyfish,
If this is true, then you must ask yourself: what does this advanced alien overlord race have to gain from us? As you say, we are much less advanced than they are. They must have some benefit in all this or they wouldn’t bother. What do you think?
I was thinking about this too for a while. Interference as such described in this post doesn’t happen in nature without a natural incentive for it to happen, but then again we as humans may not be able to catch on to it and “know” that far.
I think they’re just waiting for when we have matured as a species to show themselves. And when that happens, they don’t want a war, they want us to immediately recognize them as our ‘saviors’ and bow down. Maybe they’re waiting until more people become Christians. Then they will take those ones with them and destroy the rest….damn.
You are defiantly on the right track here up until the “saviors” part. You’re right though; they have been waiting for us to mature into higher vibration beings (currently happening as the awakening to higher consciousness movement you hear about). Like a new and powerful radio station sending, it’s music out into the universe, this small blue planet has been noticed by a number of ET civilizations and has been in preparation for “first contact”. This is one of the reasons for the massive increase in UFO sightings worldwide. These so called Aliens have had on and off contact with earth for thousands of years, They are aware that we all originate from the same source energy conscious and have been experimenting will our DNA way back to the mythical civilizations you can read about such as Atlantis, the Lumerians, and Mu. This was plenty of time for them to create entire civilizations of hybrids, blending their DNA with ours.
This was not done with malicious intent on their part. We are the ones who look for and insist on the idea of evil, invading creatures out to control us, or eat us depending on whose paranoia you’re buying into. Would it surprise you to learn that there are entire worlds with civilizations that have long outgrown the idea of conquest? We are only projecting our own philosophies and religious views onto them. The reality is that they are anxious in a profoundly joyful way, waiting for the moment when the scales on earth tip clearly in the direction of the high vibration felt through the positive emotions like love, happiness, joy, bliss, hopeful optimism. They are wanting and waiting for us to recognize our individual value and self worth. These hybrid civilizations know us and revere us as one of their ancestors
There are other ET races that have had limited associations humans since the 1940’s. We’ve all heard of Roswell, area 51, and other top secret ET stuff that is now being disclosed in various degrees by countries all over the world. The US is even beginning to admit bits and pieces. They are afraid to do a full disclosure because of all the cover-ups and lies that have been told. There is also a matter of the greed and selfish acquisition and selective distribution of advanced technology over the past 60 yrs., all worked out in agreements with relatively small factions of ET ‘s with interests of their own. There are rules though that protect us from both outside influences and from ourselves, especially pertaining to the use of nuclear weapons.
Our ability to embrace our evolving conscious as it matures and come closer to their own will bring about First contact sooner than you might think. Most people who keep up on what’s happening in the wacky world of Ufology and ET exploits, are aware that a hybrid civilization that bears a direct and close link to ours has already been chosen to make first contact. They made an appearance witnessed by thousands of people in Phoenix, Arizona in 1997, an incident known as the Phoenix Lights. Anyone under the age of thirty has probably never heard of this mass sighting. Although there have been many similar sightings of the “Yahyel” (as they are known) all over the world since that time. Their ships are shaped like a carpenters square or boomerang. Even the governor of Arizona at that time, Fife Symington, would eventually come forward as having witnessed this huge event Check out these sites for the Phoenix Lights news and information updates.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/phoenixlights.htm (This is one of the best sites for any interested in getting a complete look at all things UFO related including disclosure activities)
Two things you should know about the Yahyel civilization. One is that the DNA they received from us is dominant in that they pretty much look like us in physical appearance. the other thing is that first contact will not be a big media event, no big public gathering around landing ships and no secretive closed-door meetings with top-secret gov’t officials. Their intentions are to land in small groups and meet with regular people without any fanfare. There is an indication that their genetic history is a matter of record and to put it quite simply, there may be family ties involved. You can find all this information on the web if you look in the right places. I am well aware of how farfetched this may seem. and many will think I am so naive to believe all this as well as any number of other, cynical, skeptical, and light hearted humorous pokes I might receive, but honestly I really could care less what narrow minded people think especially when 95% of them will not even look at the data covering the subject. They might take a quick peek, but they already are biased in their position, as am I.
With all this talk nowadays about finding your bliss, finding something that ignites your passion and excites you , I have been hard pressed to come up with any thing. After searching my self, I could not think of any obvious thing that excites or could ever get passionate about, whatever that means. Really good movies don’t count. Nevertheless, if the telling emotion is excitement then I’ll be following my bliss in Casino’s and out chasing UFO’s, or ghost hunting. The idea of lucid dreaming, astral projection and other out of body adventures is also very exciting too me, but every time I get close and consciously feel myself separating from my body some spirit fucker shows up and holds me down, while I curse and struggle to free myself. I come to the conclusion that it is probably in my best interest as I would , without doubt, be spending more of my life out of body than in, and that would likely lead to a premature and somewhat more permanent outing with no option for return, at least not in my present form. I will have to settle for my low level clairvoyant peaks into the lower realms of spirit activity. I had intended to post an extraterrestrial update, but you provided an opening that was hard to resist.
All of the miracles Jesus performed could be done with “slide of hand” methods and good psychological techniques, even back then when there was little technology. It is also probable that Jesus was the head of a vaudevillian troop and a number of his demonstrations became legendary.
But Jesus didn’t establish Christianity, Paul did, because Paul integrated the Torah into the movement, Jesus actually negated the Torah, so Paul was actually anti-Christ. See http://www.highexistence.com/topic/the-john-1334-35-mind-fuck/
But back to your question; it depends on what you consider an alien race. Personally I think energy beings consciously developed matter, they are your Angels, and the source of consciousness itself would be considered God.
But I look at God like I look at aliens; either they exist or we are alone in the universe, both possibilities are mind blowing. I’d say either an intelligent creator is behind it or it is all a natural phenomena, but in both possibilities a person can still find a profound connection to the universe, life and everything.
oh my goodness so much mental stimulation ahhhh, I have similar thoughts periodically about God and Angels and if they really are just labeled as aliens because no one knows exactly what they are, we only know that they are otherworldly. I once heard that there was a bible verse that went something along the lines that Angels are so otherworldly that humans feared them. Anyway this is just a second hand theory. I can’t find that bible verse so I’m not sure how true it is, it is definitely an interesting thought to ponder over.
With the intelligence and the advanced technology an alien race would need in order to get here, it is doubtful that they would chose some sort of long term religious drama to take control of the planet. I think they would realize that they would get full cooperation and compliance just by having one of their ships just do a slow speed low altitude tour over the middle east and Rome.
throw in a few public abductions and save themselves the 2000 years and the expenses that would be incurred if they went with the “trick em with religion” method.
Maybe they’re not looking for servants, but instead allies. Whatever the cause for such a movement, humans are still pretty stupid in comparison to whatever else may lay out there. There may be a reason to this that is deeper than just control. Perhaps its an intergalactic spread of religion? Nothing is concrete in this discussion, just throwing theories at the wall here.
To me, alien presence proves subjective morality. We may act benevolently towards a “lower” people, but they may not, based on their own culture, history and evolution. Maybe for a sinister reason they saw Paleolithic/Neolithic humans and saw us as ripe for the picking as it were.
Or they could be benevolent, and want to guide us.
It’s something I’ve thought of. And there even is a scientific theory saying so (well how could Neolithic people build the Pyramids without alien help ;) )?
In a way it reminds me of the Q from Star Trek. To all intents and purposes they ARE gods, and if Q went to humans 40000 years ago, well what would one expect?
I personally think religion is spent, and humans will use ANY tool to secure their advantage. I’m an atheist, but then if there is a God, he may not care a hoot what we do, or may not be as omnipresent or omnipotent as the Bible or Koran or Gita or Talmud, etc. say he is.
God is actually an alien race? No.
Aliens with powers greater than our envisioned god? Likely.
God is a human bred concept.
Our species would not feel intrinsically comfortable praying to a supernatural deity not in their own image , nor one they weren’t brought up worshiping.
after all, god was probably a cognitive manifestation through natural selection… probably a accidental miswiring of our ancestors’ brain that mixed filial devotion with heightened emotions and creative foresight for future planning in their respective brain cortices… the anomaly of bypassing logic and reasoning turned out to have beneficial outcomes for survival for the individual and their collective groups… hence, genetically propagated to modern susceptibility of believing in the supernatural gods…
the innate filial devotion misfiring probably requires a visual shape and form resembling a human figure, like the caregiver a newborn sees … a turtle hatchling might scramble when a predator not resembling a turtle is spotted… same goes for other animals…
because an alien is most likely very different from us contrary to Hollywood depiction, their abstract form will not process with our visual cortex god wiring.