I wanted to call this post "kill yourself" which I think has a far more powerful effect but I appreciate that could be misconstrued.
By killing yourself I mean how to kill your built up suffering, ego illusions, confusion, victimhood, your past & who you & others think you are.
These labels are certainly not you.
You are reborn every second. The pure light of consciousness.
The Greeks new this phenomenon as catharsis.
Death in life is the ultimate release & rebirth. Just by me saying that I’m going to kill Paul Wright (my real name) or Paul Wright is dead makes me feel mentally & physically lighter. Why would I want to drag around my old stories & fantasies around with me? Who is this Paul Wright? By killing myself I am free to reinvent myself & be my true essence in the present moment.
I’m sure there are better examples I could give. I’d like you to tell me if you know any?
I have done this a couple of times in my life… no matter where I go or what I learn, I end up in the same depressed state feeling as nothing has changed.
Starting new can be a wonderful thing, but depending on who you are, you can fall in to the same old bad habits that got you to wanting to change in the first place.
Ego death is the right idea, but it actually ends up being more of ego awareness/control. Boundary dissolution via psychedelic drugs will “wipe” your hard drive clean and replace it with a new OS : )
Hm… death. So what are you basically saying? To kill my ego or to take drugs and SEE what happens! :) Ego isn’t evil, dudes. Sheesh. You are. Do you know what can kill your ego? A very nice coma.
Well self-discipline of conscious awareness of yourself in the present moment remedies most issues, but I can see why people would find this difficult. I prefer to “keep an eye” on ego this way, but to each his own!
I’ll just lose my mind if I’m always aware of the present moment. Gotta daydream a little. :)
Isn’t it weird how music makes people feel so good while the lyrics are completely the opposite ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1U1B_iS94E
With too much upgrading, I’m going to need another motherboard(nature). :) If I don’t like my own ego, then I don’t like myself. It happens for different reasons. And sometimes shit happens. Being stressed and afraid is destructive and natural. There is no perfection. Just opinions. This thing I just wrote is like a declaration of independence. Alright, I don’t have a different answer…
Now that I think about it. You really can’t kill your ego without killing yourself first. Love yourself and you’ll reflect love. Does that make sense?
You can absolutely kill your ego, but of course a new one will be there to take its place. If you identify with your ego as being “who you are”, then I suppose one would have to kill them self to be free of it, though simply dis-identifying would seem the easier route.
Just like Jason says, its like replacing your old operating system with a new one, but this time you are AWARE from day one of the information/experiences you are feeding the newly formed ego and can keep it in check.
You can never kill the ego forever, and any person that tells you they have is full of shit.
I just read this
“The ego, according with the Kabbalah , is a key name for Satan , You are not your ego, Satan is the ego .. ”
I’m not all to sure, what I can Identify because when I try think of it, i just draw blank, like when I’m looking for my ego, I don’t understand what I’m looking at.
Sometimes I feel I don’t understand my consciousness, I don’t know any other way to phrase it, but yeah…
@kristian, Guy Ritchie made a movie about the ego, “Revolver”, and was married to Madonna who is a follower of the Kabbalah, so Madonna is Satan, because they got divorced. And Satan is a kind of an idiot who wants to be a Goddess/God, which leads me to believe that egocentrics are keeping the balance. I’m not talking shit here. She just made a song called Masterpiece, which won a golden globe. Ego exposed. :D
who wants to kill what?…show me your ego!
There is no ego…it exists only because you create it…the lack of virtue isnt because of a ego, its because the person didnt attempt to change his/her conduct to a more virtuous one…there isnt anything to kill, the ego is just a bunch of negative traits that we conceptualize into some kind of auto suggestive illusion…maybe…
True but not true. Not every attitude is controlled. Changing your values is just a decision you make, while you still like the same stuff and you realize you haven’t changed a bit, because you are actually in a love/hate relationship with yourself. Health is good for everyone. This is probably the simplest way to explain ego. The way you see the world around you is ego and you can see it from any point of view so you wish, so you can be more objective. Ego – “I”.
When i mean change i don`t mean control, i mean a fundamental improvement, and by virtues i also mean non-attachment, perceiving reality as it is and all that.. when you say that you want to kill the ego, you support an illusion…there is nothing to kill, if you want to live in the present, improve that, if you want to stop conceptualizing everything and see the moon and not the finger pointing at the moon than work on that specifically…there is no ego…there is only here and now, and you are it…just improve your dance, but follow the fundamental rhythm…
Hi guys, I kinda felt obliged to register to share something to the matter, its a text from Beyond the Frontier of the Mind by Osho, it explains how the ego is a false center but a necessary mean to get to our true center, among other stuff. I found it rather enlightening, check it out
Id, Ego and Super-Ego came from Sigmund Freud, who’s not very well regarded in the psychoanalytical community anymore for some of his more bizarre ‘discoveries’. With Id, he proposed that you ‘inherit’ elements of your thinking mind & thus your identity when you are born which I believe to be untrue.
When I think of ego, I stick to a more eastern description, which does not assume that Id inherits, but that more-or-less everything we build an ego about comes from our direct life experience alone.
Regardless, none of this really matters a great deal as I honestly think no-one can explain existence and experiential journeys in any language or field of study (physical, scientific) because the apparatus to ‘become someone’ in a controlled environment simply does not exist.
The best bet is to just go out and live and find out what it all means for yourself.