This is a theory that spins out of another theory I have about the nature of animate life as it relates to what is inanimate. But I rarely get traction with that, so I’ll focus on this one. Some quick research tells me that my idea is similar to something called the Gaia Hypothesis, but had this idea before I heard about this.
Here’s the idea. Let’s start with me, Sean D Stevens. I am a homo sapiens sapiens and am commonly recognized as a life form. On the surface, I appear like a single entity. However, observe closer and you’ll find that I, Sean D Stevens, am composed of a system of organs, bones, and other biological systems. And those are each composed of individual cells. And those cells are composed of molecules and atoms. Now, the question is does the my identity as Sean D Stevens transfer to those organs, cells, molecules, and atoms. If I donate my kidney to John Q Smith, is he now John Q Smith with parts of Sean D Stevens. Technically, John is. But do we recognize John as that. And of course, the further down you go, the less identity gets associated with the individual parts. Hence, living beings (especially multi-celled organism) are not living beings, but rather a composite of living beings.
So that’s applying the process from recognized life down. But try to apply this logic from recognized life up. The Earth could be recognized as a life form. It’s organs are the ecosystems which are in turn made up of cells in the form of recognized life forms. And whose to say that the Gaia Hypothesis stops at Earth. Our galaxy also shares in this idea and as such, so does the entire Universe. Hence, the Universe is the biggest life form in… uh, the Universe.
I’ve pondered ideas similar to this in the past couple years. I think it started after I saw the conclusion to one of the Men In Black movies where the shot pans out and shows that the whole story took place in a small locker of some alien facility.. or something along those lines. Anyways, aside from far-fetched, I find the idea of it pretty mind-blowing. We view atoms, molecules, cells, and so forth as the building blocks of life, so who is to say that we aren’t just another level of those building blocks? Like OP said, the Universe might be just a single cell to a larger organism. Looking at it in reverse, a single cell could be a Universe for something infinitely smaller than that cell.
Horton Hears a Who.
It makes sense, even just looking at perspectives. Cells are basically 1 dimensional to us. We are 3d, the solar system is viewed as a line, and the galaxy is viewed as a point. As you move perspective, you drop the lower dimension, and gain a higher one. This can go on foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever.
If you were in your room, and the sun shone in your window and reflected off of a glass, it would show this ring of light. The only way you would know this is a glass reflecting light is by changing your reference in time and space to the object in question. If you couldn’t walk across the room, you’d have to accept that the ring of light is what actually existed. Now, we cannot change our reference in time and space to much outside this earth…for all we know, the universe is just a ring of light..
Yeah, everything seems to just branch out, almost like a fractal. Everything microscopic that’s discovered consists of even smaller things, and everything HUGE that’s discovered is just a part of something even bigger. It keeps happening.
@alex Or a ring of fire… which would mean Johnny Cash was singing about reincarnation all along but nobody paid attention. Due to the aliens putting tiny robots in the food to make people oblivious to this of course. And so on.
Nah, I agree.
Ken Wilber has an interesting theory and it’s about holons. A holon is basically a whole and a part at the same time. A cell is a whole as an individual cell but also is a part making up a tissue. Or a word is a whole because it can exist as a single concept but is also a part in a sentence. And so on. Everything could be argued that is a holon in a specific hierarchy. Really cool theory.
Also, you can check out Spontaneous Evolution by Bruce Lipton. Here he argues that each human is a cell in the organism called humanity. Fascinating read.
this could be what you guys are talking about or not? i just watched it again. it is really mind boggling. it is called the powers of ten, and goes from the tiniest atom to outer space.. im sure you guys will understand it better than me, it just boggles my mind this kind of thing…
watch it! truely amazing stuff.
The best thing about theories like this is when you consider yourself a part of a whole. You realize that everything you perceive is just a part of you. If they are part of you, why would you harm them. It almost forces compassion, kindness, and honesty.
@Ka Bruce Lipton is the man, so great to see another HEthen who recognizes the man’s wisdom. And the theory is quite solid imo, the first creatures were single cells just floating around, then they started interacting by eating eachother and such things, then they combined together into continuously more complex patterns, and eventually creatures like humans came to be. Now, humans are one of the most sociable creatures on earth, and just look at how vast civilization has become. Humans clumping together and cooperating to make something bigger, first small societies, then these slowly grew together into villages, towns, cities and so on, and now all these big nations are connecting into a global society. What’s the next step? Connecting to an equal society on another planet? Fusing with the planet?
@austin “We’re star stuff contemplating stars” – Carl Sagan
“The universe is God observing itself” – Some other wise old dead dude
This would fit perfectly in string theory and the idea that this universe is just one universe in a room full of universes.
I’ve been thinking about this the past two days, ever since I watched the Through the Wormhole where they talk about if there’s an edge to the universe. To me, our entire universe is one organ in an entire organ system. For example, we could be the heart or the liver. Us humans would be like bacteria or a parasite in my book, but that is up to interpretation.
^That’s actually very logical and probable IMHO. Physical reality is a holographic fractal (just like the human body, which is a product of the physical universe); all order is evident on any level you observe. Atoms and solar systems exhibit the exact same behavior, despite their distance on the scale of magnitude.
Despite the presence of potential infinite universe’s, we can still connect them all with a simple dot. One dot, can stand for the 11th dimension. One dot can stand for all there is, and can ever be. The simple fact that we can picture everything every possible with a dot blows my mind.
@jason, Yeah, kind of scares me sometimes. I mean it’s cool, but that just means we are definitely not as important as we think we are. I suppose we are in the long run, to keep the whole system running, just like how we need our heart, but we for sure aren’t the main event like we used to think so.
Also, you guys must have heard that they believe the universe is nearly perfectly flat right? I was thinking, perfect circles are basically impossible..but could it be, that a perfect straight line, and a perfect circle are actually the same thing? As in the curve of a circle is so perfect that its a straight line, all the way around? That’s hard to imagine in my head..but it also makes sense to me.
@eric; I was looking for that exact picture for my article yesterday; perfect example of the holographic fractal in action : )
If anything, it returns your power; you only feel insignificant because society is a sham. There’s nothing to feel incredible about other than simply being alive; your place in the cosmos as a human being is nothing short of divine. Compared to the stars, trees and sand, we are walking talking consciousness containers. We can DO things beyond merely existing; do not downplay your significance because of the truth of infinity : )
The book I am reading says they have a lot of theories on the size and shape of the universe, but the ones he focused on were a sphere (finite), a tabletop (flat, infinite), video game screen (flat, finite, think asteroids, go out one end, pop out the other), Pringles Chip (infinite).
@alex, A line and a circle could look the same from a distance, sure. If that’s what you mean? Otherwise, you lost me. Wait, are you saying that it could look flat, but in actuality it is spherical? It couldn’t be a straight line, because 180 degrees cannot turn to make a circle. Actually, a good way to picture a straight line, yet spherical, is Earth’s longitude/latitude.
A line goes on infinitely, and a circle is a shape which contains infinite sides. You can fit infinite shapes inside of a circle. A truly straight line, is 180 degrees, but where does it end? Does it go on forever, and if it did go on forever, can it really exit the universe? Does it have to converge upon itself again? So a straight line is already infinite in its own sense, and a circle is infinite in another sense, but perhaps the perfect circle is a straight line which ends up converging upon itself again, without any curve.
@jason, “There’s nothing to feel incredible about other than simply being alive; your place in the cosmos as a human being is nothing short of divine. Compared to the stars, trees and sand, we are walking talking consciousness containers. We can DO things beyond merely existing; do not downplay your significance because of the truth of infinity : )”
I love you, man!
recently i have been pondering the idea that the whole world/universe is just a massive brain. and all we are is neurons and synapses connecting in frontal lobes and nodes and lymphnodes and blood cells and electricity of this huge being/organism. but we each think we’re something more than that.
dunno if thats exactly what you guys have been saying all along. i think it is.
but i dont see the sense in seeing yourself as a single person, on a walk today i was watching everyone as the movement of one whole, and its much more satisfying and fulfilling than feeling like you are independent of that.
I just wish more people looked at things like that. all the time.
@alex; ah, I see what you mean now. I was thinking of it in a completely different way; that’s pretty neat.
@vishnu; glad you feel the same way. Science has a stranglehold on perspective by downplaying and marginalizing the human experience. The truth is a combination of spirit and science; this reality is a very, very low manifestation of the universal potential.
@JJJ; I recall reading somewhere that besides white dwarf stars and black holes, the human neocortex is the single most dense point of matter in the universe? I don’t even know how they could actually verify this, but areas where matter is dense are usually a sign of strong phenomena occurring. I still think the human body is nothing more than a lower avatar for consciousness; a temporary “suit” like an astronaut or diver has to wear to function in a particular environment.
Hey guys! I just finished a new podcast which ties into this topic, and a lot of what has been discussed on the last couple of pages. Check it out!
“Thinking With A Hammer: The Binary Fallacy & Intellectual Arrogance”: http://www.thinknowlivenow.com/media
I my cell have came up with the same type of theory that I call “the universal cell thoerye.” And it goes from the ground up a multi atomed single cell creating a multi celled organism thats part of a multi organismed ecosystem on a multi ecostemed planet part of a multi planetary solar system creating a muti solar sytemed galaxy thats part of a multi galactic universe witch would be part of a multi verse and so on beyond comprehension. The universe working just like a cell creating and disposing energy until just like a cell it multiplies passing info and then dying.