I was reading through this thread: http://www.highexistence.com/topic/whos-high-at-the-moment/ and I felt there should be one for HEthens who have quit smoking marijuana or slowed down to get their life back in track.
Like many people, I use to be a huge stoner and had to smoke at every opportunity I got. This lasted many years and the worst part is, I convinced myself I was not addicted and that I was in complete control. Fucking bullshit. It wasn’t until last year I decided to slow down because I realized how it was effecting my physical and mental health. I simply wanted to move on with my life and pursue other things. I wouldn’t say I quit because I still smoke every 3-4 months but after slowing down, I can now see the cons of using it daily.
@filipek made a strong point when he said:
“Cause I do not want to smoke only because of the fact that it makes me relaxed and chill etc. I have been there years ago, when I used to smoke a joint every time I came home from school. It becomes a habit, an addiction and it makes you dumb and dull. I do not want to get back to that point anymore, I feel that smoking too much weed is stopping me from making progress in my life. It not only literally makes you slow, but that transcends into my daily life as well. It is just my general guideline with these kind of substances nowadays. I have been on both extremes, either totally quit with everything for an certain time period or do all the things God forbid. Now I am trying to find the middle way. The thing is that I do not want to be controlled by anything, and when I am on a point when something becomes a habit and I do it everyday, I feel as if it controls me rather than that I have control over it. That is not how I want to live my life”
With that said, I just wanted to have a discussion about how slowing down or quitting affected your life and what have you’ve learned from this process.
With all things, balance.
One of the big turn offs for me is the dirty feeling of the smoke. If it’s a special occasion and I’m relaxing on the beach, or on vacation or something I might catch a buzz. Even with alcohol I don’t enjoy getting plastered every weekend. Anything when abused seems to throw off the overall glow of a fulfilled and balanced life.
This thread is like a fresh breath of air!
Like others here, I quit about four months ago. I smoked once since then, and it was at once awesome (I never experienced typical immediate quitting reasons like paranoia) and also reminded me how wonderful MJ is after a prolonged period of abstinence.
Coming relatively fresh of a year-long binge of waking-and-baking, I knew very well how it had completely lost all of its appeal when I was overdoing it. In fact, when constantly baked, I wouldn’t even consciously enjoy the experience any more. That one time I did it since, I intently listened to music and it was amazing. But during the perma-stoned time before, I didn’t even do that anymore. I was just stoned and that was the end of it.
I also noticed how it was clogging up my thinking process, and how it made for a pair of “stability training wheels”. The initial time after giving it up was marked by hightened aggression because I could feel reality flooding back into my world, which is scary at first but then it gets more and more awesome. I actually started enjoying the process of getting back into my baseline self. Today I feel like quitting weed is the very best part of the whole experience.
That’s not to say that weed can’t be fantastic, but overdoing it like I have done for far too long just robs it of all its good qualities. I’d say that for me, the perfect frequency is probably in the ballpark of once or twice a year, but I’ll never own a stash again because I know I’m just too dumb to ration it sensibly.
@1love, I know everyone else has said it already, but seriously awesome thread bro. I actually read filip’s post as well, and felt pretty inspired to know that there were actually others that felt the same. I just assumed something like this would come across as blasphemy to most people on here haha… so kudos.
I first smoked when I was seventeen. It started off as just a weekend habit, but as it does for so many other it quickly became an everyday staple in my life. I smoked as if I die without question for a couple of years the end of summer 2011. For the first time I felt as though the time I was spending getting blazed was a complete waste. Me and my buddies use to (actually they still do) spend everyday chilling in my friends garage just tokin it up. I couldn’t believe that I had thrown away the most beautiful months of the year sitting in a poorly lit building. I tried on more than a few occasions to quit the stuff, but it was nearly impossible when that’s all my friends would do and I couldn’t exactly explain it to them.
So fast forward a year, and another beautiful summer wasted. October rolled around and I found yoga.. or maybe it found me. Either way, from the first time I practiced I felt as if a weight was lifted off my shoulders. This was what i had been yearning for for so very long. It only took about a month and I completely stopped smoking. At first when I had the urge to smoke it was like I needed to do yoga or I’d go crazy, I was going multiple times a day sometimes. Now it just doesn’t seem to have the same hold as it use to, and I do yoga for reasons other than to just get my fix lol. I still smoke occasionally, though it’s not nearly as much or as often as I use to and more of an occasional social activity again. I remain wary though, because there are times when I am bummed or whatever and I think oh if I only I smoked I’d feel better. I guess I just know now that that’s complete garbage. It never really made me feel better, it just made me less. I became dull, dim-witted, and uninteresting on the stuff. I am definitely I happy, more predictive me without it.
On a more positive note, I don’t really regret any of the decisions that I’ve made over the past few years. Weed definitely led me to a lot of interesting people and opened me up to an entirely different way of thinking, which is why I sometimes still enjoy it in moderation. I surely would not have tried psychedelics if I had not smoked that first blunt. Lord knows that my experiences with those revealed to me more about myself than I ever learned growing up. So I guess I don’t really look at it as good or bad, it was more my relationship with it that was toxic. Everything has it’s place in life.
Also. I don’t know about you guys, but while smoked I never had dreams. At least I couldn’t remember them. So I’d day that alone is reason enough to abstain; as dreams are crazy fucking awesome! lol
@growchangelove, I also lacked the ability to dream during my smoking days. However once I stopped smoking, all my dreams felt so real! Like it was so vivid that I would wake up thinking it actually happened.
When you guys stopped smoking, have you ever experience dreams where weed was constantly involved?
Cause every night after I stopped, I would dream about smoking or something related and I would would wake up feeling like shit cause I thought it was real. This happened for a good 2 months until one night I decisively said NO when I was offered to smoke in my dreams. Upon waking up, I finally realized I was free.
I never was an everyday smoker. I just used to smoke Thursday thru Saturday so I could focus on school during the week. But even that was a habit. I would notice myself having the urge to want to smoke once I got out of class Thursday afternoon. I’ve pretty much stopped now. I smoke maybe once or twice every two months. I have found that I appreciate being high so much more now that its something I do so rarely. It’s become something special to me now, not just some routine. Not to mention I get blasted because my tolerance is so low and I’m not constantly buying weed so I’m not wasting money. Ive been sitting on this same 8th for about 2 months now. Lol
@1love, Yes to the dreaming aspect. I have always been an intense dreamer, but when I go to bed high it is a dreamless sleep. It would be important to note that dreaming occurs during REM sleep, and is a sign that you are successfully hitting REM cycles. REM cycles are the specific part of sleep that heals your body and allows you to recharge. This most likely explains why people often report sleeping a long time but only feeling like they had a couple hours. When you go to bed on weed, you pass out instead of falling asleep (for most people; obviously there are exceptions. There have been times when a certain weed strain has just given me really odd dreams).
@tangledupinplaid21, The anxiety is a big part of why I have slowed down (nearly non-existent). I was already anxious about some court stuff I had going on, and the weed just amplified it 100%. Ever since then bud has always made me anxious at times, even when there is no need to be.
There is nothing noble about pot, smoke it if you want but don’t lie to yourself about it.
How people make out that substance induced altered states is the crowning achievement, what a joke.
Hell yes, experience those states, have fun exploring, but in the end all the best states are attainable by purity, well I think so.
Definitely going to give giving it up for a month a go, reading this thread definitely hit home with some of the things people were saying. When I’m sober I think that getting high will make me feel better, reading this I realise it doesn’t do anything good for me, I don’t get anything done, I’m wasting money as well. Not to mention, at the moment I feel like every time I smoke weed I’m losing a battle with myself. I use weed basically as a getaway from real world problems and that’s probably not what I should be using it for.
I think going a month sober will be good for myself and for my willpower.
I’m definitely not saying that weed is bad, it’s given me some great memories and helped me gain new friends etc, but it’s probably time for a break.
@barrier, thats awesome! I wish you the best of luck. It’ll all be worth it at the end cause as @krkrich mentioned, you’ll be such a light weight once you use it again, it’ll feel like your using it for the first time. Anyways we’re all here to support you.
@krkrich, props to you. You got some serious discipline. I don’t know how many times I tried rationalizing and failed.
@spaceghost, When I get offered it (a lot, probably every day) I usually assess my current state of mind, notice that I feel pretty calm and peaceful and then imagine the anxiety that often comes along with smoking, and it makes me not even want it. The smell alone gives me a vague anxiety at times. Sometimes I do say yes and end up having to go be outside by myself for a bit. Sometimes I say yes after a couple beers which takes the anxious edge off and it can be fun. I don’t really enjoy weed as a social thing at all though for the most part.
@tangledupinplaid21, Very true indeed. Personal experiences formulate objectivity in its biased viewpoint and can hardly constitute a worthwhile and engaging argument between two intelligent individuals. If I was looking for an argument I would have stated that previously. Thank you for your time :)
Do whatever makes you happy. I’m not trying to shove any viewpoints down your throat. My life is not yours and yours is not mines.
Glad I stumbled upon this thread! I started smoking weed when I was 17 years old, and did so everyday, multiple times a day, for about a year and a half until I stopped 4 months ago. From reading some of the stories in this thread, I think two things that the general populous in this thread can agree upon are as follows: Weed in it’s nature is good, much better than most other drugs, and it also affects everyone differently.
I stopped smoking solely because I stopped enjoying the feeling of being high. I thought it was causing a lot of anxiety problems for me, and I just felt like shit the majority of the time. I can’t stress enough how much good I see in the use of marijuana. It allows insight on yourself that you just don’t get without it.
What sobriety taught me is people blame things on drugs that aren’t the drugs fault at all. The general “problem” with weed is that it makes you less productive. From my experience, I disagree with that wording. I will agree that it is more difficult to make yourself get up and do something, but once I get off the couch I find that it makes whatever I have to do more interesting. Hell, back when I used to smoke I took gravs before P90X sessions and it was a fucking blast. My belief is that every moment in life is meant to be enjoyed, and for some people marijuana activates dopamine receptors in the brain causing them to enjoy things more. For other people it clouds their heads with thoughts that they would rather just not be there, so they decide that it is just not for them. Obviously these aren’t the only two affects, but I’ll speak on the latter because it happened to me.
One thing marijuana helped me understand is that we are not our thoughts, we are just the conscious awareness that watches them play out. Living in your thoughts and living in the present moment are two completely different things, one can’t be done while the other is happening. Marijuana showed me my thoughts that I had to face, but at the time I saw it as unnecessary trouble that could be solved by stopping smoking. Four months sober and I still have similar thoughts, obviously not as intense, but still there. It showed me what I needed to face, and when I have the courage I plan on smoking again. Sorry about the novel, peace and love yall!
MY input: I started this back in high school when I was 16. At first it was scary to me and made me feel guilt because my family never did any sort of drugs(alcohol, cigarettes, etc.) none of it. My mom was really caring, although strict at times. I had two sisters as well who were clean. It was like discovering a whole new world than what I was accustomed to. Me and my friends would start smoking here and there. It gave me a reason to socialize and experience an altered mindset. However it was soon found out that I was smoking weed. My mom said it made her sad, about all the times I would lie/sneak around to go smoke. I’m not blaming weed for my regrets of how I affected my family, cause that was all on me. Now I’m 20 and still continue to blaze occasionally. I like it because it made me feel good, made me have fantastic “revelations”, and feel healthy. But I have a real guilty feeling about it these days. My mom has basically given up on me, which deep down is one root problem that I need to fix. Sad i’m hating it but i’m loving it. But I think it is far due time to go on a break. A long one. Again I used it for more spiritual understanding/ relaxing. But if I can’t be sober than what is the point? I will have to put the pot on hold while I sort out my personal issues in Sober Land. That’s fine though even the weed has been telling me to move on ;)
Great thread, it was a pleasure to read you all guys !
Here’s my relationship with weed :
I’ve been smoking weed for some years now, it started for a brief period of time in my early teenage years where me and my friends would smoke that-cool-stuff-that-grown-ups-smoke.
Then came high school and college, a whole lot of parties, I started to smoke cigarettes, hitting on a joing while drunk, couldn’t even enjoy it as the heavy drinking + weed combination made me pass out most of the time.
I really started smoking weed 3-4 years ago but I guess I made up for all the years I was “wasting” it and realized I became a smoker when I got to buy my own, regularly, that was the time I thought “oh yeah maybe I’m into this”, in the past I was just offered to hit on a joint by some friend who were already smoking. I couldn’t really understand what made it so great back then, until i really started smoking myself.
As you guys said, moderation is key, same with any substance.
When you get past the point that you need it to cope with your day, avoid thinking about real issues
Just so we’re clear, I’m not saying weed doesn’t make you think, it definitely does but I’ve seen some friends getting stuck in some weird routine, compulsively smoking only to end up asking themselves the same question thus smoking again in an attempt to find a solution, I’ve been there myself too at some point.
One of them is currently so depressed I fear for his mental sanity, he complains about trivial things and I know smoking is really not helping him right now, I try to get him to open his eyes, that the problem is not hard to solve and that only HE can do it.
It seems so ridiculous to me that he can’t get past this that I almost feel anger towards him as I feel he is enjoying delving into this dark area of his mind. Thought about introducing to psychedelics as I couldn’t be grateful enough for all the benefits they gave me but it’s like playing russian roulette, who knows if it won’t trigger some deeper shit, and I don’t want to be the one responsible. Other thing is that change has to come from you, people only can show you the way but it is up to you to walk the path or stay on the sideline.
I went there, used smoking as an escapism before I didn’t want to deal with the post-graduation thing. I felt like I couldn’t fit in the corporate world, I had a student loan I had to repay, I didn’t want to compromise myself in a dead-end job and give up on my plan to write novels just to make bankers happy, I was back at my parents who were pressuring me to get a job I was not really looking for, seeing my former classmates seemingly happy in this corporate joke (but even back in school I knew I was far from being the typical business school student).
So here I was, after having had amazing experiences in Japan and South Korea for more than a year, getting an awesome internship in a big cinema studio and having the best last semester of my student’s life (half of my class were exchange students, amazing melting pot and the kind of atmosphere I love, made invaluable friendship there), in the end business school wasn’t so bad, I had to go back to my hometown, deal with my old environment I hated, friends I loved but were so narrow-minded.
Yeah i used weed as an escapism, until I got my shit together, looked at myself and started to make changes to be the best version of myself.
I got incredible insights from smoking weed.
I also saw a side of myself I couldn’t stand, weird mood swing, complaining about stuff while doing nothing to change them, just stating the obvious, being dull and only waking up so I can smoke, stay stoned all day until my parents got home. Then pretended I looked for jobs all day. It makes me laugh when I thinkg about it, it was only a year ago though.
I’ve know managed my weed habit, I smoke when I feel time and mood is right and only if I can gain something from it. I won’t delude myself saying I quit, I just gain control over the addiction.
Weed is a tool. Don’t let it make you a tool.
It will teach you the ways of the universe, and make you it’s bitch in the process.
Awareness is key.
I’m so happy that this thread is here. I stopped a few months ago, after about a year of smoking pot every day, multiple times a day.
Like most of the people pointed out, it made me so fucking anxious, and it really screwed with my overall ambition in life. although worst thing for me was that it seemed to provoke nightmares, like really vivid shit.
I haven’t smoked for two days. I was starting to feel really sluggish, and tired. My productivity has sky rocketed and it makes being a good university student so much easier. I really only smoked just to turn my brain off, forget and fall asleep. Now I am really struggling to fall asleep again, so I have mixed feelings about taking it back up.