As the title suggests. A little background below if you are so inclined (btw I love this website and you are all amazing people)-
I’m currently working in the Funds industry 9-5.30 and I’ve already done a lot of travelling although there would be more to do. Although I joined the job full of hope and enthusiasm after being unemployed for 1 year, after 2 and a half years I now find myself in a position where there are no promotions as no one is leaving in the recession. I don’t feel like I can’t even reach goals in the company. No matter how much hard work you put in you don’t get rewarded for it. But it’s not about promotions, that would just make the job slightly more fulfilling. I know I should be grateful for having a decent paying job when unemployment is so high but you guys will understand. For I have become a cubicle zombie, and a white collar slave if you will.
However there is a beautiful upside- I’m in the fortunate and grateful position were I have just purchased a house in cash, so I have no mortgage. Now I’m broke. This has shifted the security in my life from having a job to having shelter in a debt free environment. I’ve contemplated growing vegetables in my back yard etc. I’m single at the moment but would like to start a family one day and I have a fear that if I get a lower paying job that affords me more freedom then years down the line I won’t be able to support a family. I know that’s probably an irrational fear as it’s holding me back to some degree but it’s still something to consider.
Right now I’m in a position where I’m brainstorming possible opportunities before I make a decision so it would be great to hear from you guys. I really feel like this website has opened my eyes and the sense of community is giving me the push to be who I want to be. I’m getting closer to realising that and I’m becoming more confident to take the jump and make a decision.
Well if you plan on staying in the house I say start growin them veggies for sure! I mean, no matter what else you choose that’s gonna help. You’ll have fresh nutritious food fo free! That’ll afford you more freedom to do whatever else. Especially if you eventually have a family of your own the more free food the better yknow.
I guess the question is if you do take a lower paying job to get more freedom, what will you do with that freedom? Because there’s so much to do really. You could use at least part of it to create some passive income sources, that way the money could even itself out. You could use it to educate yourself which will serve you in innumerable ways. Or you could grow shit tons of food and make your food source completely independent. Or you could do a combination of those things plus other stuff! What’s more worth it to you – the extra money or the extra time? Remember that time can always turn into money with creativity & hard work. But money can’t always be turned into time. This way, maybe the extra time would serve you better than the money as far as supporting a family goes. Or maybe it won’t, I’ve never been in such a position so I wouldn’t know.
Just some food for thought, sounds like your on the right track to me so I’m sure it’ll all work out!
I started cleaning houses while I was in school and I ended up realizing it would make me more happy to be doing that rather than the 9-5 downtown job I went to school for (but the downtown job would pay way bigger $$$). I make my own schedule, I can take days off and vacation whenever I want (though I don’t take advantage, as it makes me seem aloof and unreliable), and I love being my own boss. It’s physical which makes my body happy and my hours are typically 9-4 M-F. However, I am able to do this because I am living in a fairly well off city in Canada but as you said, you are single and do have some freedom to move if you wanted! I also like the idea that if I decide to grow my business, I may be able to retire early with passive income. Sounds like a win win to me!
Not sure if you’re a guy or girl, or if something like this is interesting or possible for you, but it’s never something I had considered before I was forced to quit my job to go back to school. Wish someone had told me sooner!!
BTW, start a garden anyway :)
@jayde, I think it’s about getting to the point where you have passive income so you can have more time to enjoy your life, if that’s possible. But if you do work in a job that’s not too stressful that I think that’s worth more than a job that pays more. What’s your business, is it the cleaning business?
@benjamin, Thanks for your reply. What passive income sources do you think are good?
On what jobs to do, I actually have an uncle with a very big backyard who grows flowers and he makes a living selling to convenience and hardware stores.He used to work in aviation and probably got bored and found it un-fulfilling etc. So growing and selling flowers is a job idea for anyone reading this. And doing this would free up time to work on other projects too
@begood2, Brother keep in mind that the whole “Job” paradigm is the most unnatural thing on the planet. Humans are the greatest extension of this beautiful biosphere, and we have to pay money to live on it? WTF?!
You have to find where in this unnatural paradigm you find enough peace. Its different for all of us.
That’s great you have shelter without debt. Well done man!
You need to figure out that “want” to have a family next. You can’t take an apathetic approach to that decision (not that I’m implying you are).
My reality is that a job is an unfortunate necessity. A means to an end. The end dictates what the means need to be. A job is the most unnatural thing in existence, so why would anyone “define” themselves by one. Or delude themselves that they could derive any real satisfaction from it.
A job is for money.
Work is for passion.
Only a few luck out and find something that is both at once. But that’s a separate paradigm with separate questions.
My advice man. Plant that garden. Make that house your home. Figure out what you’re needs are. Then get the job that will provide you with the income you require. Don’t waste energy on what job it is. Its just a job brother.
@begood2, Usually passive income involves the internet, haha I hardly know anything about it I’ve just read a couple articles. I should learn more. If you google “passive income” I’m sure you’ll find plenty of people writing/talking about it and you could learn from them.
I agree with you about working. Louis CK has a piece where God is talking to man. In a part of it he says something along the lines of- why are you paying for food, I left it all over the ground for you.
I don’t want to have a family yet nor do I yearn for one yet. I’m just thinking with a view of how my decisions now will effect my future circumstances. However I understand the need for a definite decision and I am perhaps being irrational about it.
Letting the chips fall where they may could be an option and I will eventually take that leap. It’s not just an excuse to procrastinate. I just want to make an informed decision and evaluating the best options available first.
Do you have a job? If so, what do you do?
@begood2, Yes my business is a cleaning business. I enjoy it so for me it’s worth it. It seems difficult to have passive income right off the bat, but it’s something to work towards! Maybe some research into starting a business doing something you love could help? If you love it, it won’t seem like work. If you start to enjoy gardening, maybe get into the flower business?
Even though I work regular hours, I have control over whether I want to work more or less, which gives me time for things I really enjoy, based on my income/time I allow myself.
It’s tough, just takes some soul searching…
Good luck, hope I could help :)
@begood2, I know that quote. Love Louis!
Steve Hughes does a great piece too:
“5 days on. 2 days off. 5 days on. 2 days off”
“How long do I do this for?”
“Until you’re fucking dead!”
Best course of action on the family decision. Is just be well aware of what is required of you if you decide yes. Don’t go into that unprepared.
Good approach. Open mind, open self. Live in the moment.
I work in construction (city high-rise buildings) in Melbourne, Australia. Here, in this state especially the pay is unfairly high. By that I mean we make more in this industry than most other professions. I honestly believe we are overpaid. But this is where the money is. So financially its the best job available for me. But there is more to life than money, obviously. My financial reasoning is purely logical & pragmatic.
The work itself is very monotonous. Almost no thought required. This is an aspect of the job I take full advantage of. I can work 10hrs a day where my mind is distracted by the task at hand, which allows my intuition and higher self to contemplate and even meditate all day. Whereas a more consciously demanding job would deny me that opportunity.
So basically I get paid ridiculously well to contemplate all of existence and consciousness. It’s beautifully ironic and Zen.
@lennui, how does one break into freelance writing? How did you get your start? That’s something else I’ve been considering since I don’t really like any job that my degree is intended for.
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Flight attendants are the waiters of the sky, but LOOK AT THE BENEFITS! It definitely isn’t the glamours job it was in the 60’s and you will at one point go crazy. I have had flight attendants that have been in the game for years tell me “it’s not worth it” but they have so many stories to tell!
My Boyfriend climbs cell phone towers and he gets to see amazing views all day long. He does have a background in mechanics (not required) and because of that he has gotten many promotions. With that job you can pick anywhere you want to be, but they are mostly hiring for the middle of nowhere.
I am still in college and recently changed my major to nursing and eventually I am going to become a midwife. Babies are born everywhere and that means I will have no problem getting a job where ever I want to be. Maybe I will even join the Peace Corps then!
Good Luck to you and your future endeavors!
PS: Remember, don’t make up your mind. You are human you are going to change it, when you keep your mind open possibilities are endless.
@begood2, I got started when their standards weren’t as high. Still, they don’t require that you have a degree. I know it sounds crazy!!!…but you don’t need a degree if you have evidence that you know a lot about a specific subject. I write about psychology stuff. I have since earned my degree but I had no degree when I began. I know I got hired because my writing samples were good, and I have had articles published in magazines, which I shared with them