I Ive found that no matter where i look i can never find someone that can answer my question , you see i have recently discovered the theory that we are all just a form of energy and by vibrating at a certain level (aka expressing our emotions ) we can transcend into different plains or levels of contentiousness . maybe what Ive read makes no sense and yous will read this and laugh but it clicked with me.
Who or what is ‘having’ ”your” perspective?
From consciousness ‘perspective’, which is not really a perspective (as advaita teacher Rupert Spira always emphasizes), there is no ‘you’ in that sense, as a single, individual’s awareness looking ‘out’ into the external world, contrasted with it’s supposed own inner knowing.
Where is the directionality, the contrasting, can you find it in immediate, actual experience? Both the ‘you’ you are referring to in your question and the ‘I do exist’ are within im- or transpersonal consciousness, which cannot be appropriated by language; not even for the sake of expression or communication.
The I and the you are interdependent, this is the basic law of opposites. If you doubt the ‘you’, you simultaneously, whether you want it or not, though you might only realize later on, doubt yourself, the I of the statement.
Consciousness ‘itself’ is one, so both other and ‘I’, as representation, for example in the form of words, dissolve in pure, luminous, selfless awareness. The question ‘do you exist’, can only arise because, often subconsciously, there is a holding onto the I-thought, or it attendent torrent of sensations in the body.
A teacher once said: the inner direction is a whole other dimension entirely. Self and other on the phenomenal plain, as seeming obvious realities, are rooted in the senses, mostly the eyes (sight) and ears (talk). If you ask, without verbalizing in the mind, during meditation, who/what am I, and you discover that the intellect, the superego, cannot answer, you utterly ‘don’t know’, because consciousness, and especially it’s source, can never be objectified., Then the question of whether or not an ‘other’ ”really” exists or not becomes either irrelevant or literally nonsense, because how to even make or justify that distinction in the first place, if, logically, you cannot use the same instrument who devised that illusory border-line to begin with (i.e. some things are in me, in the mind, in awareness, and other things are outside of me, my mind, my awareness)?
Have you ever found, or experienced, this schism directly?
Thank you for your interesting reflections!
I’m this vessel (body), which my consciousness seems to be entwined with.
@notmanyregrets, completely agree with you on this topic. I can’t answer that question and no one has ever been able to answer whether we actually exist, so you are correct! In that no one can prove t hat, but we just chose the easy way out and believe the most true answer which is i don’t exactly know, but i assume that we actually ARE in existence, but with a body and a soul. It also differs based on your religion, some people believe we are all in one, mind, body soul, some believe these things are separate and not a part of our true identity and that at death we separate. It all depends on who is questioning their existence which would produce the varied answers to this question, which none would have the absolute true answer to. :)
Until you’ve actually met me, I dont exist in your universe, and vice versa, AND theoretically speaking. Now I have to be somebody- but all I am is just a floating abyss of possibilities in your Universe.
Sometimes I wonder if this website is a creation of my mind .. and you are all imagined like a dream, OR maybe you all DO exist because.. technically you have to.. or do you?
Existing can be very questionable when you think and think and think about it. I think that it’s better to stop asking yourself if you’re existing in this world and start asking yourself if you’re living. In simple words, you exist because you are obviously here. You are obviously not ‘nothing’. The one who is not placed anywhere and does not possess a consciousness does not exist, but it’s pointless to worry about them for they are nothing to worry about. We are here, existing so that we can live,
It’s all a big plan of a creator, choose to believe that or not. Physically we are here and it’s your soul youre feeling when you raise these questions to yourself. You’ll never find a definite answer, you’ll at best find comfort in a belief system on a path of spirituallity. Then once youre sitting in a mind set, you see everything different.
I’ll share what I’ve learned through my teachings: The “heaven” christians talk about does exist, frequencies of higher dimenions do exist and it merely the same. My culture has taught me of a spirit realm, which is your ‘heaven’ or your 4th dimensions. We are put here souly for an experience to learn, to tie our knowledge with imagination. And when we pass away, if we learn valueable skills that can be applied in new worlds, we ascend, Spiritually transending the physical world plains.
Believe it or not, it’s where I sit and I’ve found plenty of comfort in it.
Somewhere else on the High Existence website is an image file with the quote, “I am not a human being having a spiritual experience; I am a spiritual being having a human experience.” These words resonate with me, as do many of the posts to this topic.
That consciousness, or spiritual essence, is something like an energy frequency, which makes more sense to me than a strictly biological view that humans are just protoplasmic robots with thinking abilities during life but nothing else before or after. That energy – or consciousness – seems so much more plausible of an explanation for so many unexplained phenomena and experiences.
I am also keenly aware that every moment contains the full potential for every emotion and that a major part of our human experience is to feel. The ability to feel seems to be our divining rods to Truth. The translation of those feelings into action or non-action seems to be our linked to our human purpose.
Recently, I went to my physician. She sent me to a specialist, who sent me to another specialist. Yesterday morning, I went to a lab and gave samples of my blood and urine for extensive analyses. I have to wait until the 18th for the results. The last specialist I met informed me that I “have a 95% chance of not having cancer.” Now, of course, my ego wants to spend 100% of its time worrying about that 5% risk. What does this awareness mean and what do I do with it? Ignore it? Change something in my habits? Meditate more? I think there is a potential for me to waste a lot of energy if I am not careful about this.
Maybe the best that I can do is not to get caught up in regrets of the past or worries about the future, but rather experience what is. And to appreciate and nurture LOVE.
@twinsoul, I’ll jump in on this one and see if I can help. This concious light and love is what you want to feel? Well meditation is a popular answer, but I myself just smudge. Burn sage, cleanse myself of impurities and let myself go when in thought. I guess I call it praying.
A powerful prayer will let you know what you are, which is kind of like a light but it will also let you know what love is. And the thing here is, you have to believe your teachings for how you hear them. Learning to listen is the key.
Often people will disclose the experience as over active imagination, you have to learn to go with it and climb that wall of doubt. That takes time. But when you long in the countless hours of mental torture, things just set right. You hear messages all over, things all around you seem to manifest as you hope they would. Bringing new meaning to the quote, life is what you make of it!
@kirkwilly, Yes, of course :) Meditation for me does not get me closer to this love and light that you mention, but maybe i just need to be more patient..
The only times i feel truly blizzfull is when i listen to music and quiet my logical/analytical mind. Is this ecstasy what you think/know to be you?
if we are the universe (which we are), we must also be the darkness and the shadow, the pain and the suffering, dont you agree?
@twinsoul, I’m the kind of person who just lets things run their course and deal with things when they happen, maybe things are starting to happen with you and you seem to be well aware, so thats a good indication of where your mind is it, soon your heart will catch up.
As when you mention music, thats something I’m trying to figure out, to quote aldous huxley, ”
After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music” There has been times while just listening to music when I feel like I’m sitting behind myself and experiencing myself at the same time. But at other times music it’s self has a message for you, often times it just lyricless music which is best.
I like your thought processor it ( to me) is extremely healthy. But since we are all on personal journeys to find what we search, our paths might differ. I myself know nothing as fact, so I won’t hit anyone else down and claim im right. I’m just a normal man who has question that can only be answered at moments of death:) hhaha
@twinsoul, I really can’t explain it as much as it’s something that needs to be experienced.
Experience is knowledge.. That being said there are many enlightened ones who can tie this information into easily understandable ways. One of the best I’ve found regarding pretty much everything we are going through at this time is David Icke in his “The Lion Sleeps No More” The 2 part video is linked below. Yes they are long, but well worth the time to watch, so long as you go into it with an open mind. I hope this can help as many people as possible to recognize their true potential in these crucial upcoming times, as it did for me, Enjoy!
“When you realize that by changing your perspective, big things can be seen as little things, it becomes much harder to worry about anything.”
@dbridge, You said it spot on yourself in the last line ‘Maybe the best that I can do is not to get caught up in regrets of the past or worries about the future, but rather experience what is. And to appreciate and nurture LOVE.”
I think the answer is in our dreams, the other reality where we spend a third of our day. The other reality that is firewalled from this one. This reality seems real because you are experiencing it at this moment. If someone were to ask you in you dream if your dream reality were real would you be able to identify it as a dream from within the dream? Why would we think that this ‘reality’ is any different. Either our dreams are real or this reality is not. What is reality anyway. The word seems to melt when you try to extract its meaning. Like electrons flowing to your screen conveying other people’s thoughts–the contents of their minds. This reality seems to melt under scrutiny. The dream within the dream. Sweet awakenings…