Hello HEthens, what’s good? It’s time for another one of “those” threads. This one is about the bible, the word of god, Jesus, the antichrist, sin, heaven, hell, and the HUGE misconceptions about these things.
Disclaimer: First of all, I want to address any Christians who are easily offended or unwilling to read things that oppose their beliefs. This thread will bring you no happiness or positive thoughts, and neither will you to the thread. So it is best, for everyone concerned, if you simply leave now.
For the rest of you, I want to explain myself a bit. I’ve written a bit about this topic in the past, but that was just a warmup and I didn’t talk much about the real meaning, and that’s what this thread is about. The sources of what I’m about to talk about, you ask? Well they’re many, including but not limited to: The rejected books, the pyramid texts, the masonic bible, ancient fragments of the holy book, kabala and mushroom cult writings, and various modern day studies of the ancient holy books.
This is going to be a bit of a long read, but I promise you it will be worth it, as it concerns the answer to so many of the major questions a lot of you ask.
Now that’s been taken care of. Are you ready? Open for wisdom?
Brace thyself, for verily I will be dropping bombs.
First, I want to talk about the antichrist and the bible. Do you know what the modern name for the antichrist is? It’s -wait for it- Christianity. I’m not making this up, the word “antichrist” was coined by authentic christians referring to the religious fools who misinterpreted and altered the holy book.
When, and how did this happen? The event is known as the council of Nicaea, and according to historians it took place in 325 AD.
A group of men of power had a counsil, voting about what the bible was about and which books should be kept and which should be rejected. They did this for various reasons, some wanted to believe in a spirit that could forgive their crimes and mistakes, others wanted a way to control people, others simply wanted to state their opinion and interpretation.
The most well-known of these people was Caesar Constantine, the pagan emperor of Rome. He had lived a horrible life and felt like shit about it, but he had read (and misinterpreted) a book that made him feel like there was a higher power that could forgive his crimes (such as killing his mother and boiling his wife to death.) So they all had a vote on what the holy book should be like, and then they remade it, the result is the bible. The book that still to this day, almost 2000 years later, is still misleading people and has caused more wars and suffering than any other piece of literature. Not only because of these people, but also because of ignorant dumbfounded dipshits mistranslating and misinterpreting it throughout almost 2 millennia.
(The lesson to learn here: When you let a bunch of ignorant imbeciles and people with hidden agendas and people with opinions but no knowledge vote about major matters, shitty things happen.)
The real holy book, the one that is crammed full of actual and useful wisdom, is not the bible. This real holy book is what I’ll be talking about here. Now, explaining the whole thing would make a whole book, so I’ll just focus on what I consider the most important part:
The allegory of Jesus. Basically, the whole story of Jesus is a new, simplified version of most of the stuff in the old testament.
I’m sure you know the story fairly well, so I won’t have to tell it. I’ll just explain the meanings of the major key parts.
A short recap: [SPOILER ALERT haha] Mary and Joseph cross the Jordan and go to Bethlehem, where they have a son, “Jesus,” this son then grows up and travels to Golgotha where he is crucified and reunited with God. Along the path he is tested by the devil, gets 12 disciples, is baptised by John, and so on.
So what’s this story got to do with anything in real life, you might ask? The answer is revealed when you understand what the names and analogies actually mean.
Let’s begin with Joseph and Mary, who traveled south to Bethlehem. Who were they? Well, Mary means “ocean” or “water.” Joseph means “increase” or “repeat.” With these hints, the picture becomes a little more clear. Fluid and increase/repetition, but what does it mean?
Let’s take a look at the word Bethlehem. Beth + Lehem = Bethlehem, in hebrew it means “house of bread.” What about the Jordan? Well, Jordan means stream/river. And Golgotha? “Place of skull.”
See what I’m getting at? It’s referring to the body. Place of skull? The top end of the spine. House of bread? The belly. River Jordan? The stream of fluids from your brain down through your spine.
That’s right, we’re talking biology. The holy book is about biology (and physics, a bit of chemistry, a little astrology, and some philosophy/spiritualy,) NOT RELIGION. The name “holy book” means “hole book.” Because the people who compiled it considered the contents to be all there is to know. (A foolish assumption, but to this day there is no more complete source of knowledge concerning the mystery of life and, in partcular, health.)
Mind = fucked? Good. Let’s proceed.
So it’s about biology, and we’re looking for the stuff that Mary and Joseph refer to. We know that it’s got something to do with fluids, but that’s about it. Well, now we can start to dig.
They traveled from (or through) a place called Galilee. It is referred to as the area around a lake from which the Jordan flows. So we’re looking for an area around a lake (collection of fluid) at the beginning of the Jordan (spinal fluid/cord.) It’s obviously referring to the brain.
Mary was “impregnated by Father God.” She was a “virgin mother.” Likewise, Joseph (these days known as a carpenter, but the old writings weren’t that specific, they just said he was a builder/creator) was given directions by God. God, AKA Jehova, Elýon (and a whole bunch of other names) means “the most high.”
Something “above” passed these things down to this couple. Remember, we’re talking about the brain here. Where does this happen in the brain? Well, the “most high” in the brain is the cerebrum. Who are these couple below God? The answer is, the anterior and posterior glands of the Thalamus, the pineal (epiphysis) and the pituitary (hypophysis.)
What is the pineal gland? It’s a cone-shaped tiny reddish gland which contains a yellow, calcareous liquid. Its function includes relaying sensory signals to the cerebral cortex, and regulating consciousness, sleep and focus. This is where your melatonin is produced, and it is also a crucial part in the optic function. It is larger in males, and removing it from females lab animals leads to feminization. So it is, in a way, a masculine organ, often called the male spiritual organ by woo-woo people. Even more often FALSELY referred to as the third eye by these same people. Another thing these wackies often say is that “my pineal is calcified and won’t work, I gotta de-calcify it,” this is stupid because it’s supposed to be calcareous. (These crystals are the “salt” the bible mentions time and time again.) This gland IS the fabled ‘philosopher’s stone.’
What about the pituitary? It’s a protrusion from the hypothalamus, it’s larger than the pineal and contains a milky white mucus. it secretes nine hormones (including Prolactin, beta-endorphine and somatotropin.) It also regulates homeostasis. It is indeed the “mother” in the human body, nurturing and caring. It is the “female spiritual organ,” and is often falsely considered the “master gland” or “crown chakra.” (The actual crown chakra is the Claustrum, AKA God.)
There you have it, Mary and Joseph are the fluids produced in these glands refined from the secretions from the Claustrum. (By the way, Santa Claus is another metaphor for the claustrum, hence the name. “He’s giving great gifts to those who are good,” just like God.) The “milk and honey” of God refer to these same fluids, these same nicknames are used in the chinese tradition.
I mentioned the philosopher’s stone earlier, and those who know that story know that it’s one of the ingredients of the elixir of life. The other ingredient is pia mater, immaculate ether. Pia mater means pure mother. Yup, that’s right, Mary is this other ingredient. YOU HAVE THE INGREDIENTS for the elixir of life IN YOUR BODY. And that’s what the allegory of Jesus is all about, the production of this “elixir of life.” And I’m gonna explain to you how it’s done, I’M NOT JOKING THIS SHIT IS REAL.
These fluids travel down your body. In your solar plexus, Bethlehem, 1/10 of these fluids are kept and refined. This 1/10 is the seed, baby Jesus. The actual name of Jesus is Yashuah (Joshua) and means fish/bread/seed. When this seed is ready, it travels up again, to Golgotha, the base of the skull (Jade pillow in the eastern teachings.)
So what about the encounter with the devil? Who is the devil? He’s the ruler of Hell, we all know that. But what is hell? Hell is your lower body, everything below the solar plexus, everything above this is heaven. That’s why “the world belongs to Satan.” (Here’s another fun fact: Sacred stems from Sacrum, that bone connected to your pelvis, anything sacred by definition belongs to hell, talk about major misconception.)
The devil tempting Jesus is just an analogy for your primitive and decadent urges getting in the way of your higher practices. What does this mean? Basically, that your “monkey mind” will fight you if you’re not clever. What does Jesus say to the devil? “Get thee behind me, Satan.” That means, ignore the urges and rise above them.
What urges are we talking about here. Well the two main culprits are overeating and sexual decadence. Remember how I’ve said so many times that ejaculation drains your life? It’s true, and this is why, it wastes your “Chrism” (that’s where the word “jism” comes from) which feeds the the seed (Jesus.) You see, it is nourished from a gland called the Kardia (in males it’s located on the prostate,) in the east they call it the Kundalini. When you ejaculate, you drain this gland of its supply. That’s also why you’ll hear so many people say that women are better at spirituality, because they don’t waste their Kundalini as much. And it’s also why they generally live longer. When the egyptians talk about Osiris losing his power and his lantern when he gets his dick, this is what they mean. Also, one of the rejected books is called “The gospel of Eve” and it’s pretty much the same as the tantric teachings of the east, how to leverage sex to your advantage instead of to your ruin.
Then what about the 12 disciples? Every month (roughly 29 days, old zodiac based month system, not the modern one) a new seed is released. “But wait a minute, 1+12=13, this doesn’t add up” you say. Well, that’s what all the fuzz about Mary Magdalene is about. The last seed is “incomplete,” and the stupid men of the ancient day translated this to “woman.” Chauvinist much? So you know when they say she suffers and that “when she becomes like a man she will be saved”… they’re actually talking about when this partial seed becomes complete, ie when enough parts have collected to form a whole. This happens every fourth year, that’s the real origin of the “leap year” concept. This is why there’s so much talk in the old testament about saving your crops for three years and then rejoicing in the abundance.
The baptism of John? John baptized Jesus in the Jordan (spinal.) John means oil, it refers to a component of the spinal fluid/marrow. Jesus was baptized in it and became Christ.
Now to the crucifixion. What does it mean? Well, in Golgotha, at the base of the skull, in the Medulla Oblongata, there are two nerve crossings (where the Ida and Pingala nerves meat.) This is where Jesus is glorified by God, ceases being and reunites with the Father. All that stuff about torture and “why hast thou forsaken me” is nothing but bullshit that was made up later. In fact, this crucifixion releases the seed’s power. Think of two powerful rivers crossing, and the immense forces that result, or when you cross two live electric wires and it causes a huge explosion and sets things on fire. Those who have tried “raising the kundalini” probably know what I’m talking about, having felt this incredible painful energy burst at the base of the skull. That’s the crucifixion of Jesus.
Now, Jesus dying coming back for a while? That’s a metaphor for the results of this completion of a cycle of the “microcosmic orbit.” After the “death of Jesus” you don’t notice much, it seems like it’s gone, but after a few days it comes back and performs miraccles, then it goes away again after a few more days but the traces are still there. These miracles are incredible, the things that start happening in your mind and body are so sweet. Like, remember how Jesus cured the blind, well when a cycle is complete your pineal will literally heal your eyes. This is why old people say masturbation will make you blind (though they don’t really understand how they’re right.) He healed a cripple so he could walk, this will happen in your body too. Now do you understand how some people have such awesome lives and excel at everything?
Jesus says to his disciples “You shall all go on to do greater things.” What this means is that every seed will bring greater results. Every month, the effect will be even more glorious. Your third eye will open, your health will shoot through the roof, your injuries will heal, you will feel happier and stronger than ever. It’s the way life is meant to be lived, and it is FUCKING AWESOME.
This brings us to the concept of Sin. What is sin? Well, sin is simply the things which will sabotage this process and waste the seed. Remember the ten commandments and the capital vices? Having other gods beside God refers both to religion/worship and to getting too involved with other people’s lives/putting others first. Taking his name in vain is a similar concept. The sabbath day means rest, without proper rest you starve the seed. Honor thy father and thy mother means keep your pineal and pituitary healthy, and you will live a long life. Killing, stealing, bearing false witness, coveting your neighbour’s possessions, and committing adultery FUCK YOUR MIND UP. And an unhealthy mind means an unhealthy body in which the seed can’t survive. Also, adultery wastes your chrism.
Lust overstimulates the body, distracts the mind, makes you constantly unsatisfied, and leads to waste of sexual essence. Gluttony drains the body’s energy, dulls the mind and dumps a bunch of shit in your body. Greed makes you constantly unsatisfied, and mean-natured, this disturbs your nervous system. Sloth (laziness and irresponsibility) weakens your body and mind and makes you dependent, this too hurts your nervous system. Wrath overstimulates body and mind and releases toxic hormones and neurotransmitters into your blood, the recovery from which takes a long time. Envy follows the same principle as greed (and to some degree lust and wrath.) Hubris/bigotry is considered the worst of all deadly sins (not pride, there’s nothing wrong with pride) it makes you mean-natured, disconnected from people, and constantly unsatisfied, and makes your mind stagnate. Each one of these things will kill the seed, without exception.
Now do you see the importance of positive thinking, meditation, taking action, eating healthy, and being a good person? Now do you see why I’ve been stressing all these things so much since I joined this site?
The process has been going on since you were 12. How many of these seeds have you wasted? Such a shame, but no sweat. If you’re still alive and not on your deathbed, there is still time. After the first couple of seeds you will regenerate just the same. That’s why some of those tibetan monks seem to age in reverse for a while after beginning this “new way of life.”
Seriously, 1 month is all it takes to get this started and see for yourself. I challenge you, HEthens. Make this your 1 month challenge, and I promise you, I guarantee you, that you will see glorious results.
Now, discuss. Anything about the topic, any questions, any more analogies you’ve found, and so on. And your opinions and thoughts about it all.
@manimal, That was indeed some good mind-fucking! Here are my two initial questions (without thinking through it too much yet):
-How were these groups of men at the council so knowledgeable about human biology to put a story like this together?
-You might have something here. But I’ve been living healthy with positive thinking, meditation, no masturbation, healthy diet, etc. for a good few months now and I haven’t exactly experienced any mindblowing experiences from this ‘seed’ you speak of. So what are you referring to when you say ‘glorious results,’ my friend?
I’m down. So I just need to not jizz for a month? Control my ‘monkey mind’ by not overeating etc. What control do I have over these glands? I’ve been searching for something and I think this is it. I bought a book called the Nag Hammadi texts that has all the banned scriptures and gnostic texts I think. Should I go ahead and read through all that or is your post all the info I need.
@manimal, Are you talking about the pineal gland when you say ‘seed’? If so, does the crucifixion you write about have anything to do with dmt being release from the pineal gland upon death?
Calcium in the pineal gland is natural, but with all the flouride in our water, calcification refers to the build up of unnatural amounts of calcium phosphate crystals in various parts of the body, including the pineal gland. So much can build up that it can be clearly seen in x-rays.
@danfontaine Well, it’s not so much doing as letting happen. That’s where all the yoga folks go wrong. All this stuff about “clearing chakras” and such don’t really do much, other than get your fluids flowing a bit more freely. I’m not sure what you mean by your question, care to specify? The process of the cycle, summed up? Well, the two components descend to your solar plexus, the “seed” is made, it completes the journey and is transmuted at the Medulla oblongata in the back of your head. This last stage is what most people talk about when they talk about kundalini, the ascent into the head. Their theory is incomplete, but they refuse to acknowledge this.
-The men at the counsil were not the once who compiled the book, as I said earlier. The book was compiled throughout the years by various people reading the books of the mystics. The holy book was just a compilation of other knowledge. The people at the counsil were the ones who did not understand, or wanted to ban or alter, this book.
-You say you’ve had no mindblowing results from your process, how is that positive thinking? Contradictions, man. How healthy is your diet really, and how do you know that? You abstain from masturbation, but do you lose your chrism elsewhere? This meditation, how relaxing is it? And do you really get enough of quality relaxation? Do you stay away from all forms of envy and greed and so on?
Humans have a nasty habit of overrating their actions and underrating their potential. Especially when dealing with the past. Are you really doing all of those things FULLY, TO YOUR BEST ABILITY, DAILY, ENJOYING IT? If not, you’re really not doing much. No offense bro.
@d503 You have no direct control over the glands, but you indirectly affect them through your mental and physical actions and habits. The glands take care of their own business, no need to control them even if it’s possible. Nag Hammadi sounds nice, I suggest you read it, this topic of mine is in no way “all you need to know.” But for the knowledge of the actual practice, this topic is enough. Still learning more is always good.
@jneggleston What? NO. The pineal is a gland, it stays in its place. The “seed” is a fluid made at your solar plexus (this is why those chinese/japanese masters stress the importance of the dantien/hara and mingmen.) The pineal releases dmt, yes, but that’s not part of the crucifixion. However, the pineal releases more dmt when you’re “enlightened,” ie after the crucifixion.
Yes, calcification in the body is bad, and I’ve been hammering this stuff about the dangers of fluoride on here quite a lot. But, I’ve seen no scientific evidence of this calcification of the pineal body, (please share with me if you have some, and excuse my ignorance) just a bunch of people who noticed it’s calcareous and assumed that it had been calcified. Just like those people who think it’s shrunk or something, when it’s really supposed to be tiny. Also, if I remember correctly, Kalium (potassium) phosphate helps clean out the calcification (and a shitload of other problems.)
@mercurial Religion is religion, they’re all bad, but they all originated from something awesome. That is, the practices of mastering the human form, which has been the main focus of ALL intelligent people ever since the first civilizations were established. Zen, just like any other such paradigm, misses the point.
“It is like a finger, pointing away to the moon. Don’t concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of that heavenly glory.” – Bruce Lee
@jshmedler As I said in the beginning of the OP, it’s from reading a whole lot of ancient texts, and various modern day books about those texts. And of course lots of experimentation to validate it with my own experience.
@mercurial Drop the hostility, man. I never said that.
Zen, the anarchy of religion? If that’s what you want to believe, then do so. However, that’s not the topic, if you do not wish to discuss the topic it’s best if you go to some other thread. There is nothing to gain from discussing that stuff here, it’s the wrong thread.
I’m pretty sure the bible was more about what you started with than what you ended with – i.e. someone creating a god to forgive the good people, and punish the bad.
Not the pineal gland walking around blessing people.
Just my opinion, though.
I agree!! as to the bible being misinterpreted, modern Christianity being the the anti christ, I am in total agreement with ( @manimal ), but it has been solidly proven that there did exist a man at apprx 2000 or so years ago who claimed to be the messiah/son of god etc etc (whether he actually was or not is debatable) , so I’m pretty sure the new testament isn’t a biology book.
@manimal, Liked the post. The taoists have this down to a science, albeit much more in depth. Have you read any books by mantak chia? He is a Taoist but also a Christian for this very same reason. He’s currently writing a 32 book series on the science and practicality behind Taoism
I feel downright incredible today. I think my ‘seed’ is blossoming!
@manimal, Okay, then how were the men who compiled the book so knowledgeable about human biology that many thousands of years ago?
@manimal, never mind.
I’m just kind of confused about the motion of the orbit. I want to understand it so that I too can start discovering analogies. This really puts my imagination into overdrive about how subconscious themes are just your body’s way of completing the cycle and such things.
You say the pineal/pituitary secretions are refined by the cerebrum and travel down to the solar plexus where they are refined over time by … You lost me when you started talking about Magdalene and the number 13… But what I’m understanding is that this period spent in the solar plexus is the temptation of the devil as the seed sits in limbo. From this position the seed is either completed or destroyed by account of the health and activity of the sexual organs? Kundalini energy is what drives the motion of the orbit and eventually brings the seed to be crucified or what?
@manimal, Excellent post bro. But my question to you is how would referring the Pineal Gland, or the pitraury gland as a “Chakra” be misintrepreted? “Chakra” – spinning wheel/vortex of energy. I can understand the biology of the body and as well as our EM vibrations, I use the term pineal gland alot but I also refer it to my third eye chakra, to be sensory we have to have energy and we are energy, for the pineal to work the energy needs to be positive, compassion, un afraid, and to just be in the Now. We don’t really have to call it anything
Chakra is really just a word, like any other so really any word can be used to describe something as long as it resonates to you. Religion is indeed a joke and can be frustrated based on information that we have now and what it was secretly translated to, The Romans killed religion after that, and the idea of God is so different when really, it is the same basic idea. He loves us, we love him and we are a part of him as much as he, is of us
@mikeyw829 Yes, taoists do indeed have this down to a science, and they’ve been my preferred source for a very long time. However, they are not more in-depth per se. As I said, this was just a short example, everything in the holy book follows the same patterns. And it was just as much of a science back then as taoism is/was, except it got mistranslated.
The main advantage of taoism is that they explained things in a way that’s simple and still understandable to this day. While these things were known all over the world, most of the teachers explained it in weird ways because people thought differently back then. It’s not some ground breaking discovery, it’s just been ignored by most people for so long. I also drew many parallels to taoism in the OP.
@jpete011 Most likely because they read the books, I suppose. That’s what makes the most sense, don’tcha think? Or they were simply very observant, just like the people who wrote the books.
@@danfontain NO. The cerebrum supplies the raw materials, the pineal and pituitary process these into their respective secretions (ie growth hormones, endorphines, serotonin and melatonin etc.) The period spent in the plexus is not the temptation of the devil, it is the childhood. The “temptation of the devil” happens during the ascent of the “seed.” This ascent is what is usually referred to as the kundalini. Spiritualists often talk about “energy leaks,” this sexual decadence issue is one such leak. They also talk about “blocked chakras” or similar things, this is nothing but poor health. So yes, decent health and decent sexual control are required.
@randiriplinger I meant chakra as in the commonly used term “chakra,” referring to the main “energy vortexes” of the body. Especially the most popular one, the 7-chakra model, which is really supposed to represent the endocrine system and nothing but. This is a matter of definition, so you are right about the use of the word, but let’s keep it simple.
However, the pineal is not the third eye. It’s a crucial part, yes, but the actual “third eye” is more than a gland. It’s a whole system of glands, including the entire thalamus, parts of the cerebellum (aka Jericho,) the pituitary gland and parts of the cerebrum. As for this stuff about feelings, the pituitary is much more sensitive toward emotion than the pituitary, the pituitary responds more to thoughts. Hence the “masculine and feminine” attribution.
The basic idea of god is not an all powerful entity that’s “there in the air,” but our own brain/mind. Sure, I believe in that omnipresent shit too, and it’s definitely beneficial to do so, but that’s not what God means. “Ye are all gods.” God is human intelligence, or rather, an intelligent human. Every human of a “higher mind” is, per definition, a God in the truest sense of the word.
This pattern of “religion” is right there in just about every major religious teaching. The ancient norse seidr (my fave,) hinduism, taoism, native american, *real* christianity, ETC. They’re all saying the same thing, but using different analogies. That’s all there’s to it. This pie-in-the-sky stuff about divine omnipresent spirits and shit was made up later/by different people.
@anniec I’ll do one later. But the mystic old-skool islam doctrine is still alive well, it’s called Sufi. And their stuff is easier to interpret, more modern, and more direct. However, they too have had this “spiritualization” happen to their doctrine, so the present stuff is more “far out” but it’s still full of good stuff.
The original koran was basically an alternative version of the holy book, so to speak. Different compilations that had many influences/sources in common. However, islam is more religious, being a more recent invention and all.
I was thinking about making similar threads about some other mythologies, I actually was going to begin with norse/seidr but I figured this would land better.
@manimal, why do you make it out to be so simple? I certainly am not aware of anyone with these supposed benefits.
You just meditate to become pure of mind and go day to day without disrupting the seed with volatile thoughts and emotions by remaining positive and loving? Have a heightened awareness in order to listen to what your body is telling you to eat (how important is nutrition in this? Seems difficult to truly balance the diet). Exercise aggressively every day, do productive things you love, don’t ejaculate and get good rest?
Is tantric sex and masturbation (multi-orgasmic) an important part of the seed completing the journey? Cause this helps the circulation of the microcosmic orbit doesn’t it?
How important are things like breathing exercise, yoga, Tibetan rites, other things like that?
@manimal, Thank-you and I know that The pineal gland is more than just the third eye energy. I think often people will go into a more mental/human state of mind where they completely forget about the pineal gland and how important it actually is because it is what will bring us to our personal truth and helpful when against the odds with religion and the doctrine/today’s world order(which is definitely and completely misleading, vaguely expressed and basic hypocrisy). It is when we let the mind take over that we begin that everything needs a label so that it ‘exists’ which is also pretty rediculous because when the Christians talk about Jesus and God, well jesus was crucified BEFORE the Christians came about so if they have not seen him or have the old testiments he should not exist if this theory is to be used, plus God, as we know him would have had to be Jewish(according today’s bible) yet, God can reject you if you studied Judaism without baptism, converting or being born Jewish. God is of everything and should be explored and not accepting what God or divination is in the bible. It is when we drop all the crap that we have true peace and love. I believe in God but don’t think I need to read the bible, worship every Sunday, and be christian. As long as we are here on this earth god will love us and we love God. I have felt God in the simplest of ways and it’s sad how people think it is so complex and strict to build enlightenment, awakening, or endearment to god. It just is and I wish more people would see that. Everything is so beautiful that my mind could net be that closed