A provocative thought

 Anonymous (@) 7 years, 9 months ago

Dogs don’t go to heaven because they don’t believe in our religions. In a non blasphemous sense, we are their God… That’s why you “have to” tame dogs because at first they don’t believe in God.

On a separate note, I’ve been thinking for a while now about writing my own religion which I live by because it is absurd that our ancestors had an opportunity to do so and we had no say in it. Fuck the big bang and forget Adam and Eve, I’m making my own creation myths. The thing is, even though we can do whatever we want, it doesn’t always feel right. I’m setting my own limitations according to my own sense of morality.

It’s ridiculous that we should believe other people’s explanations of what reality is and how it came to be. Science is its own form of religion because scientists are not 100% sure either. And the methods and quantities which we use to measure and rationalise our universe are also made up. By fashioning your own, personal religion, you create the world again, which is essentially what you do every time you open your eyes.

How fantastic would it be? Your own guide to how you should live your life. One of your commandments could be: Don’t take life too seriously, and if you start taking life to seriously you can be like, fuck, I broke one of my commandments. People behave neurotically because they are told how to behave. What is acceptable and what is not.

I think someone can only attain enlightenment through their own understanding of the world. You can’t be taught how to perceive reality. Reality is subjective. It’s a manifestation of one’s own personal experiences. Thus if someone offers you their cure for your neurotic behaviour, you’re lying to yourself by believing that it works.

January 5, 2014 at 9:06 am
MonkeyZazu (1,865)M (@monkeyzazu) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

In your own way coming to conclusion about life and how to live through the wisdom gained from your experiences, then creating a belief system as you go. Nothing but respect for you right now.

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Thanks bro , much appreciated.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Sorry, but where is the provocative part? When will it arrive?

There is nothing provocative or even edgy about this, it’s all old news.
But it’s spot on.

Honestly, the first paragraph would suffice. It sums up the whole religion deal really well.
It’s all about domestication, turning people into pets.

It’s tragic, people. Open your eyes.

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Whether or not you found it provocative I have no qualms over your reply. As long as my thoughts have been read.

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Doug (1) (@rayzd) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I agree with you completely, alas society’s values / morals are governed by the masses. Now and then you have individuals (like you and I) who break away from this conditioned thought and speak against popular opinion, and this I applaud. We need more people who are not afraid to think outside of the box.

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

As long as there is still hope. Our voices will be heard when the time is right. Our task is to continue to share our ideas with others.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Love it. Live life by your own accord, don’t follow the rules laid out by past generations because its almost certain they do not fit you and the world we live in today. We are here to create who we are and who we want to be.

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Not provocative, that’s what religion and delusion is, creation of a fantastical world which only exist in an abstracted and individual form. You could do whatever the hell you want, but creating a alternate reality will probably conflict with real life and relations, fantasy is never real, no matter how much you believe.

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

It is not alternative because even the model of reality we are presented with by science is itself not an accurate model but a close approximation, “reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one” Albert Einstein. Our subconscious minds are the only instruments which understand reality and thus they fashion this wonderful illusion. Even though I know that a table is made of atoms and thus is not solid, I cannot pass my hand through the table, nor can I bend a spoon with my mind. The only reality is understanding that there is no reality, thus reality can only be achieved through your own understanding and interpretation of the world. When humanity completes its role in the universe and we are all extinct, I can guarantee you that not a single individual will know exactly how all of this came to be. The amount of information there is in the universe is exponentially greater than the amount of information that the human species can know and measure, there’s an actual mathematic equation for this. So why go about life living it according to someone else’s approximation? Make your own approximation. I will worship no God, nor will I enter a house of worship because I no longer want to be told how someone else thinks it all started. Not al of us can make immense contributions to humanity but we can make immense contributions to our own lives.

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emptyminded (68) (@thoughtless) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

lol a good thought my friend and a belief system built off first hand experience is the way most people do it. whether they hallucinated the experience or not… if its not too much trouble you could check out my life philosophy (if this new 4.0 has not moved it under some other heading) its basically that thought but with a little more depth…

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Thanks bro, will do. Can you send me the link or will I find it on your profile?

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Q (94) (@Qualohuasca) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

“Think for yourself, question authority.”

Well, I guess it’s provocative… but it’s old as all hell. The topic could’ve been named better, this gives off a sort of tabloid-vibe (where they name their topics something like “you can’t believe which celebrity did ****” so you’ll click to find out – they get money for each click, and the Internet fills with crap).

It’s neat that you brought the idea a bit further with the commandments – although, isn’t “a personal religion” comparable to the idea of spiritualism? Also, your morals didn’t come from you (they’re not our original ideas: barely anything, if anything, is), so why limit your “religion” to the same morals the other ones have been tooting out for the past centuries?

Sorry to be a whiny-rhymey, but gotta be out and honest.

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Hahaha, it’s chilled, I appreciate the honestly. “Provocative” in the sense of provoking thought.

I cheated on my girlfriend and I did not need any recognised religion to tell me that I felt wrong. That I knew that this is not how I ought to feel. I told her a day later. I am not saying that we should be moral in the sense of what morality has been defined as because morality is subjective. The term “wrong” is only relative because the template which you campare it on, which would be “right” in this instance, is a social construction. It is also a construction manifested by your own personal experiences, therefore it is subjective and not objective. What is right and what is wrong differs across cultures because people have varying upbringing. We can never assume that our way is correct and that another’s is incorrect. There is nothing wrong with murder, it was just frowned upon by the people who made the laws. People who were no smarter than you and I, mind you.

I can’t comment on the spiritualism part because I have not read on spiritualism. Perhaps it is similar to spiritualism but spiritualism is its own branch of thought, therefore I wish not to belong to it. I wish to belong to my own branch of thought.

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Nikki Pilkington (665) (@The Pilk) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I fell upon this… Coincidence?

See the third way in which Silva suggests that we deal with ‘the morality problem’. Creativity… Technology. Hmmm, a provocative conversation.

Or, perhaps another ‘religion’?

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Anonymous (20) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Hahaha, wassup

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