A question for anyone who does not like Christianity

 backcase (@backcase)5 years, 2 months ago

Keep these questions in mind but do not post your answers to them. This is not my question.

Is it that you do not like the religion/spirituality?

Is it that you do not like the people who call themselves Christians?

Is it because of history?

Keep these questions in mind but do not post your answers to them. This is not my question.

My question is:

Do you agree with what Jesus said and has done?

August 1, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

Religion and spirituality are not the same thing. Don’t get the two confused.

If these are not your questions, then why are you posting them? I believe these really are your questions, but saying they’re not is just your attempt at deflecting responsibility for them.

Here’s my question: What are you trying to gain by posting this? What are your intentions?

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

Do you agree with what Jesus said and has done?

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
Yes.
“I died for your sins.”
No.

I could definitely cherry-pick Jesus’ words. Saying I agree with everything one mortal human did on Earth is a bit far fetched. Even Ghandi had some pretty weird ideas.

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evolve (144) (@evolve) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

If Jesus really did exist, I don’t believe he was religious. Nor do I believe he was intended to “die for our sins”. The counsel of Nicea and Constantine I believe made that up to make their beliefs more marketable and to bash on Catholicism.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@chodebalm,

“If these are not your questions, then why are you posting them?”

They affect your answer. You do not have be so offensive.

“I believe these really are your questions, but saying they’re not is just your attempt at deflecting responsibility for them.”

I don’t get what you mean, but believe what you want.

My question is my question, I mean no ulterior motive.

“What are you trying to gain by posting this? What are your intentions?”

My intention is what it always is: To inspire love in others and learn from experience(whether it be mine or that of others).

I like to meditate on these answers and put myself in the shoes of others and see the way they do.

for example:

@ijesuschrist,

I can take his answer and reflect upon it. From reflecting upon it I see many things about him as an individual.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@evolve, “If Jesus really did exist, I don’t believe he was religious. Nor do I believe he was intended to “die for our sins”. The counsel of Nicea and Constantine I believe made that up to make their beliefs more marketable and to bash on Catholicism.”

Have you read the gospels? Do you have an idea of who Jesus was?

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evolve (144) (@evolve) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, I’ve read the entire Bible AND the books that were left out of the Bible. Not sure if it was all of them, but most. I read no less than 3 hours a die and I love history. So my perspective I personally think, it’s clear upon this religion. As I used to be a Christian youth leader at the church I was introduced to back in 2006.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@evolve,

So you just think that the bible is just some word put together to induce men to be submissive then? or what?

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, The Bible is whatever you make of it. But for the most part it teaches obedience, submission, and gives people the ultimate reason to not have to think for themselves. Religion can be and has been used as a tool to control and manipulate large amounts of people.

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evolve (144) (@evolve) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, it’s so they don’t continue to question. Religion plees for you not to question outside of their belief. Because, what is the point? Religion “solves” that, and doesn’t leave you room to grow. Closed-minded beliefs systems are evil, in my humble opinion. As human’s, we strive to grow. And if we can’t due to dogma, then what the fuck are you doing that’s so much better? Jesus still hasn’t came down.

Most Christian’s I know are simply waiting. Waiting and waiting. Can’t wait. They just can’t wait for Jesus to come down and say, “Alright fellas, don’t grab your bags, because you won’t be needing shit from this hell-hole Earth of yours. You’ll be now be living in paradise because you’ve believed in one religion out of the vast amounts that have been created in history. And guess what, you’ve picked the right religion. YOU’VE WON! Enjoy your stay in Heaven, because you will be here forever. And sorry if you don’t like it, because you cannot leave.”

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@evolve, “As human’s, we strive to grow. And if we can’t due to dogma, then what the fuck are you doing that’s so much better?”

Not trying to get anyone mad. Just trying to get some view points here.

“Religion plees for you not to question outside of their belief.”
“Religion “solves” that, and doesn’t leave you room to grow.”

What makes you think that?

Christ taught people to constantly strive to become more wise, more intelligent, more virtuous, and more detached from things that are the antithesis of these qualities.

“Most Christian’s I know are simply waiting. Waiting and waiting. Can’t wait. They just can’t wait for Jesus to come down and say, “Alright fellas, don’t grab your bags, because you won’t be needing shit from this hell-hole Earth of yours. You’ll be now be living in paradise because you’ve believed in one religion out of the vast amounts that have been created in history. And guess what, you’ve picked the right religion. YOU’VE WON! Enjoy your stay in Heaven, because you will be here forever. And sorry if you don’t like it, because you cannot leave.””

This post of yours shows ignorance of things said in the bible. Yet you said you read it.

Jesus says that the earth is our to inherit. The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. We can see it now. Jesus is already here and is with all of us.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@chodebalm, “The Bible is whatever you make of it. But for the most part it teaches obedience, submission, and gives people the ultimate reason to not have to think for themselves. Religion can be and has been used as a tool to control and manipulate large amounts of people.”

I did not ask about religion. I asked about what is said to have been spoken by Jesus.

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, http://i.imgur.com/vbKMHOZ.jpg

This is what you said. That was my response to it.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@chodebalm, I was talking to someone else, but I like how you did that.

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Anonymous (2,653) (@) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@chodebalm, So what is the difference between spirituality and religion?

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Religion is often about who’s in and who’s out, creating a worldview about “us against them.” Spirituality rejects this dualism and speaks of us AND them. Religion is often about loyalty to institutions, clergy, and rules. Spirituality is about loyalty to justice and compassion. Religion talks about God. Spirituality helps to make us godly. The two need not be at odds, but people should understand the difference.

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Anonymous (2,653) (@) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@chodebalm, What do you think came first – religion or law? You’re right that religion is about rules, but the rules are about human rights, which are also included in the law. From where would people get the idea how to build nations if not from religion? There is no difference in having the same bias. It’s all bias.

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evolve (144) (@evolve) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

This is silly. Christianity is easily debunkable. I’ve done it to plenty of “educated” pastors before. I find it a waste of time now. Religion is exactly that, a waste of time.

Carry on.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, Why did Jesus have to die for our sins?

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Manimal (2,996) (@manimal) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, Good shit. RESTCP

@backcase, What Jesus are you talking about? Jesus is a very common name. I know a bunch of guys named Jesus in my town, the most notable one being Jesus Fernandez. He’s a mentally handicapped drunk who spends most of his time outside the local grocery store, drinking light beer, slurring about strange conspiracies and selling tobacco to minors. According to him, he used to be an assassin or elite soldier or something like that.

Do I agree with what he said and did? Definitely not.

If you’re talking about Yashuah Bin Yusuf, the “christ,” then I don’t know. Because that guy lived 2000 years ago in the middle east, and I wasn’t there. There is no proof that he said or did anything in particular.
If you’re referring to what he said and did in the fanfic called “The Bible” then yeah I agree with most of what he said.

But yknow, those were just the thoughts and opinions of one guy a long time ago. There’s nothing really unique about it, and a lot of it is quite stupid. Philosophy is just like science, a search for a truth, new things are discovered all the time. Holding on to old ideas is when they’re false, that’s just barbaric and retarded.

Not only that, but the people who wrote the bible were not Jesus, they did not even live when Jesus did his stuff. It was all written long after his death (and resurrection and ascension.)

A bunch of people with their own beliefs and agendas, putting their words into a dead guy’s mouth. That’s pretty damn nasty. And there’s nothing to support the notion that he would have agreed.

Christianity is stupid. Even more so than Islam and even Judaism.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

Religions are basically for the masses, since the masses aren’t ready for mysticism. When a person becomes ready, then he will move on to something he needs.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

I don’t see anything that Jesus acually did and said back then that would be anything like what the monks wrote in thier book of thiers some 800 years after his death.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, all the bible really is is a fictional story based on campfire stories. You have to remember that information was almost impossible to be biased back then because it was only documented with word of mouth. So a man fed some poor people with a fish he had saved in his pouch, and that story told through word of mouth became that he fed a thousand people through fish in his pouch. We have all played the telephone game, its basically the same thing.

The problem most realistic people have with Christianity is that is was 100% created to control the masses and halt science advancement. The church had all the power in the world because of the bible story they created.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@yoinkie, The four gospels have been dated to less than a hundred years after Jesus had died.

These writings are from witnesses to Jesus life. They have been preserved from authorities which persecuted Christianity in the beginning.

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backcase (204) (@backcase) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@evolve,

How has it been debunked? what do you mean by saying this?

How have you “done” whatever this is to pastors?

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 5 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, yea? My 4 friends and I went out last weekend. Ask us all seperately what we did and I bet you would get 4 different stories. Multiply that by 100 years and throw in some very bias people. Let’s not forget that most people weren’t educated nor knew half the stuff we now know. So they blindly believed any story they heard because they didn’t know any better.

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