Absolutely anything that happens is meant to happen.

 Egarim (@egarim)8 years, 10 months ago

Woah woah slow down, big statement I’m well aware, but as big as your ego? I don’t know haha, let’s find out! Let us begin our intelligent debate here. Before you go digging in your bag of assumptions let me explain, as best as I can, what I mean by “absolutely anything that happens is meant to happen”:

Flashback. Two months ago you met this girl (let’s use the guy perspective for this example) while at work. Your job is not necessarily important, what is important is that this girl began showing up to your work place more and more often and she would go out of her way to get your attention. You didn’t do jack shit. You never saw her again. You regret it. Two months later, you’re back in the present. You wonder about alternate realities and “mistakes” and “choices” you could have made. You wonder where you’d be now if you made a move. Boom. Stop.

There is a reason why you didn’t talk to her. I am not talking divine intervention or a grand plan. I mean that something, some logic, some thought process went on in your head that led you to choose not to make a move. Whatever this thought process was, it happened and forever is it written in history. “Don’t regret anything, because at the time it was exactly what you wanted.” People tell themselves that things could have been different or that “accidents” occur… but they do not. Ever since the first causal action (Big Bang, God, magical elephants took a huge dump), everything that followed is an effect (an endless chain of effects). Let me go on.

You’re walking and you feel a splat on your arm. Bird shit. Was that chance? No it isn’t. That bird didn’t pop into existence over your head at just the right trajectory to take a shit on your ever so important arm… it had a birth however long ago and lived a life and is continuing to live its life and was already flying on a certain path long before you stepped outside today and you were taking a certain a route and it shat on you. There are certain precursors or preceding events that led that bird to be where it was to be able to even shit on you to begin with…. there are no accidents anywhere. Humans are shortsighted so they don’t see the causality behind things but everything that happens is destined (not magical destiny, I mean that it had to happen if it does happen).

Guy gets hit by car. No chance involved. That guy, doing whatever he was doing, following whatever logic that he was following was set on a course to be hit by that car.. rewind the clocks somehow and every single time he would get hit by the car. Once anyone makes a decision, that decision is cemented in eternity.

Just a thought

October 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Joshua (16) (@sapienite) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Shit happens. What stoics want us to do is lay down and take it, but what we OUGHT to do is stand up and make shit happen how we want it to happen.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@sapienite,

Haha of course man, we cannot sit and let life happen. The reins are in our hands: we guide the course of the world.

My post has nothing to do with taking action, it has to do with understanding why things happen. If we fail to act, it is due to our manner of thinking at the time. Too often people regret, but at the time the choices they made were exactly what they wanted. Understanding this, we must undo our past wrongs by living in the present and taking action. Whatever we do, however right or wrong, is fate.

Let’s make it a good fate. Thanks for your passionate response.

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Anonymous (53) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@egarim,

I only want to add that I agree with you and that I think you are an awesome person.
Yeah, I called you an awesome person, you mad brah?!

Thanks for being the person you are.

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Barkie (21) (@bakra) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

like the Idee, reminds me of some book about metaphysics wich stated something like;
An act/deed is only completely free if no other previous circumstances `force` you to make this act. Wich is an interesting statement because it does not eliminate the free will completely but does describe how previous events almost always determine the nature of you next choice.

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Barkie (21) (@bakra) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

and a nice limerick about determinism:

There was a young man who said damn,
for it seems that I am,
A creature that moves in determinate rules,
Im not even a bus Im a tram.

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Mystique (23) (@kayjay85) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

It’s all meant to happen. You’re meant to be on this site now reading this very sentence. You want to click the little red X at the corner of your screen? You were meant to feel the need to do it. Oh, you change your mind now? You were meant to do that, too.

Question is: Is fate real? Are we all predestined for the life we live? Are our futures already predetermined long time before we came into existence or even now? Maybe we really have the power to make spontaneous decisions to act a certain way… or was it all predestined?

Was this post meant to be written? Was I guided here to write it for a reason? I have the chance now to CTRL+A + DELETE it all…. but I didn’t…

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Heisenberg (0) (@paulscar) 6 years, 5 months ago ago

I agree that everything that happens was meant to happen, but I often hear people say” everything happens for a reason”. I don’t agree with this although I will admit that some things do happen for a reason, just not everything that happens. For example a landslide in South America kills thousands of people. What was the reason for that? Were these people somehow asking for that and therefore made it happen. I don’t think so, Sometimes things just happen.

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parveen (0) (@parvee) 6 years, 5 months ago ago

statement intuites true egarim. events in the material world seems to have an inertia of their own which kindaa fix them in the spacetime fabric . but this inertia is not only determined by causal laws of physics and karma(cause-world configuratin ,minds subconscious inclinations etc.) which seems to fix shape and size of events. but its hidden properties like composition mass information can be altered by new knowledge created by well conscoious creative balanced minds which can even release these events from happening( mass zero photonic presence if enough enlightened minds and collective efforts). these events then have kind of transcendent presence( like particles in their quantum states ). e.g. budhhism as a faith was bound to occur due to kind of dialectical conflict within hinduism, but enlightenment as an aspiration a transcendent event..

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parveen (0) (@parvee) 6 years, 5 months ago ago

statement intuites true egarim. events in the material world seems to have an inertia of their own which kindaa fix them in the spacetime fabric . but this inertia is not only determined by causal laws of physics and karma(cause-world configuratin ,minds subconscious inclinations etc.) which seems to fix shape and size of events. but its hidden properties like composition mass information can be altered by new knowledge created by well conscoious creative balanced minds which can even release these events from happening( mass zero photonic presence if enough enlightened minds and collective efforts). these events then have kind of transcendent presence( like particles in their quantum states ). e.g. budhhism as a faith was bound to occur due to kind of dialectical conflict within hinduism, but enlightenment as an aspiration a transcendent event.. so two kind of events ,one that is meant to happen other that is made to happen, if assumed that everything exists for a purpose -essentialism.)

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Subbanna R (1) (@Subbanna-R) 1 year, 9 months ago ago

Yes, Humans don’t have free will. What is meant to happen will only happen. We are conscious robots

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