Academia – why bother?

 Anonymous (@)7 years, 8 months ago

I want to get a PhD eventually since I like studying, but what is the point of academia?

isn’t it just a “necessity” since our modern economy needs a large number of high-skilled persons? And isn’t academia simply for dopes who like to seem smart (which is a hugely relative term anyhow)?

That said, I couldn’t live without academia, it drives the world after all.

January 29, 2014 at 7:08 pm
JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Academia is run by people who have very large egos, want to be labelled as smart, want to win nobel prizes and get their names on news papers.

But you don’t have to be one of those people. Academia is a very elegant way to study things, to understand things, and to learn. It is a straight-shot to understanding mechanisms of the universe.

Just be careful not to worship results, but rather worship what is just there. If your focus is some numerical amount of discoveries, or some advancement of a field, then you’re going to be stressed and you’re going to be a slave to other’s intentions.

Just go into it with interest in learning, not ‘winning’.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I don’t care about academia, but like studying the universe so I guess I like it.

That said, I have some theories I want to develop, but it’s just for learning’s sake, not ego. I don’t wish ill on anybody, but egocentric people can be flogged in public for all I care…

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

There is no way you can be a real person

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

People contradict. Get irked, I don’t care.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Contradiction leads to dissonance leads to being upset and confused about one’s self.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Humans contradict. This is the norm, though as a supposed wise man you should know that already.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Your passive aggressive attitude reveals your dissonance. You should take some time to evaluate why you’re so defensive to what everyone says on this website (and why you continue to post following this).

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Passive agression is merely the beliefs of scientists. I only respond since you responded to me. The fact is I couldn’t care less if I contradicted.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

You just don’t seem to be contributing much of anything on the site. I wonder what you think of yourself?

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I don’t care if I do. lol.. I’m not here to “contribute”.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

So you’re here to learn, then?

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

do I need to tell you, nor care?

I’m confident, you’re not you post about nonsense about being “depressed” like I care. It’s good you’re objective in your views…

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

people contradict, get over it

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Education is a big industry; they make this culture that you need it to have a chance in life, and you commit to a significant loan, then often people end up coming out the other side with a degree or two and slide right into a low or minimal wage job doing mediocre labour.

It used to be that you couldn’t get particular jobs if you were over-qualified for them, now you have to be :p

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

True. Which is one reason why academia is a sham.

But then it drives the world (IMHO) so it’s all good also.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Education is good, people can grow from it, but if you are educated a certain way, your ability to think-freely can be hindered. I don’t like schools because of the teaching techniques they use, but some of the better schools teach better and know how to customise your education to suit how you are most receptive.

So it depends on what you are learning, who you are and how you learn, the way they teach or teach you to learn, and a lot of the “good” schools and “best” teachers are even more expensive or elitist that depend on either or both grades and money to get in, unless you can get a scholarship.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

lay off the dope

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

lulz.. says the guy who flippantly proclaims he contradicts, then lambastes some stranger online for doing it. And most likely uses some fatalistic argument to justify doing so?

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

just messing around. What’s the point of arguing on the internet?

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

There is a ton to study outside of academia. But it doesn’t grant any career in the end by way of social standing.

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Samuel (28) (@iamdrugs) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Go get your PhD. Academia is not a necessity, it’s a desire. If you want to learn a lot and have a deeper understanding of the world, then no, academia is not pointless.
No, academia is not for dopes who like to seem smart. Academia is a social mechanism which helps both to preserve knowledge for future generations, as well as provide the tools and connections to attain new knowledge and work on new projects. Academia is not useless, it is a vital tool for education.
Academia has nothing to do with the economy, it has to do with becoming the kind of functional person you want to be. If you want a modern, highly-skilled job that pays a lot, go to a technical school. Academia is not for that kind of experience. It is only a way to expand your mind, learn to think critically, and become a responsible, learned citizen of your community.
Go get that fucking PhD, @desifemilove

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André SAN (19) (@andre-san) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with academia. Academia is the mere “professionalization” or “expertise” within a certain subject. It is not the meaning of one’s life, but without specialization and education where would the world be (in technological and “form” development). Training the mind is important as well as it is to know oneself, the question bores down to what degree one IDENTIFIES with their work or academic profession. Academia is knowing outside phenomena.

Doctors, engineers, psychologists, economists (the good kind :) ) all require certain specialization and education, but it is not for everyone. Some people are creative while others are analytic.

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John Cooper (5) (@John Cooper) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Hmm. I never really thought about it like that. It’s just how the world works now. I want to become a teacher so I have to at least have an associate degree + a teacher’s degree. That’s why I study. To do a particular job.

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