Advice of Artists

ross (@theboss7607) 8 years, 7 months ago

As a child I was very creative from painting, drawing, imagining, to being in advanced art classes in elementary so almost in every sense of the word I was a pure artist. But compare that pure artist to the person I am today and what you will find is the final result and product of being fed into the societal compactor of schooling that smashes, crush, and form you into a mold of their creation.

But I know that deep down under all that squeezed, pressed, and compacted garbage Lies the pure artist of whom I was formerly associated with.

So now understanding that I must figure out how to remove blindfold of my artistic self.

What I am asking is not how to be an artist because I think ultimately if every one understood them selves and expressed that self fully then we would all pure artists. So you could say for me to remove all that bull shit and become my true self that I will naturally find art. This is almost the case in my life as I have fully destructed who I am and I now KNOW with certainty what I want in life and who I am. But knowing this information only takes me into the first step.

The second step is taking whats inside and creating it outside. But when I look inside there are no images and I have always been bad a visualizing. How do you artists that create through mediums of painting, drawing, sculpting pull these images from?

Am i possibly going about art from a restricted view. Should I be saying well I really love thinking and contemplating big ideas and inspiring people to think for them selves so this must be the type of artist I am and these expression of thoughts is my Art?

Lastly the type of contemplation and expression that give me passion usually transcends things like images and description. For example the depicting of infinity. So how to i find a way to express the inexpressible. I feel like someone might say “Well buddy if you can figure that out then you could make a million bucks”

So what do you guys think?

October 15, 2013 at 10:40 am
HarrietKC (1) (@Harrrie) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, I’m glad I stirred up some ideas for you. Another thing came to mind, but you probably know this. Sometimes when I look at something in woodworking, cement work, or other things that are completely different than what I do (bead weaving), they use a material or process that I haven’t thought of that can be incorporated into the pieces I make. For example, yesterday I read about a guy who uses wood soaked in ocean salt water to make primitive bows. He said the wood is much easier to work after soaking in the salt water. I am going to try that the next time I make a cabochon out of some purple wood I saved. It is incredible because there is an infinity of processes and materials to think about and utilize in my favorite mediums. There is that infinity word again. Idea: Someone who can paint or use a computer screen as a canvas can depict infinity. Pick a favorite flower to depict on the canvas, perhaps an orchid. In the upper corner of the canvas, start with the supernovae. A little further down show the supernovae feeding material into our early solar system. A little further down, show the earth formed from that with a different look than we have but something recognizable, such as oceans with a pleosaur jumping out of the water to catch a pterodactal flying overhead and a lizard climbing out of the water to a near by green area of plants, trees, insects, flowers. A little further down is the green forest which branches off showing showing our early ancestors still in the trees eating flowers that look similar to the orchid. Next a little further down is an early man giving a bouquet to a cave woman and child with flowers that look even more like the orchid you want to depict in the final image. Then the next image down could be the orchid you decided upon in the first place. If you want to extend that further, you could show the orchid flower petal with a tiny insect on it, next image as if looking under a microscope with the cells. Then an image of the cells enlarged showing the cell processes. Then the DNA, chromosomes and genes in the cell. Then the molecules, then the atoms. Of course this canvas doesn’t have to show these exact images but I think this can be done in variety of ways and would be very interesting. Then the atoms can be shown as how they would look at the ‘supernovae material’ level, as we are all made of this material, everything on Earth came from a supernovae. Sorry to inundate you, but I don’t draw, paint, etc. Someone as well as you can use this idea if you want.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, Exactly. Quick, draw a picture, post it on this thread. Do it. DO IT.

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Sandy (115) (@sandman) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, Glad to share some of the things that have helped me. I also like Neil Gaiman’s commencement speech from last year. Worth a look if you haven’t seen it:

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Matt Overstreet (34) (@phaction) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

I’m too lazy to read the other comments, so I apologize if this has already been said!

What helps me get my artistic mind flowing is to collaborate with other artists, even in other fields. For instance, if I wanted to draw something, I would go to a musical artist, listen to a song of theirs, and draw what comes to mind. It gives me something to start with and gives them some cover art.

If I want to write a song but my mind won’t get past those barriers, I’d go to another musician to help take the weight off my shoulders. We would both contribute our element, and likely create something unimaginably beautiful!

Creating things is generally more rewarding when you do it with other people. :)

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ross (76) (@theboss7607) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@phaction, thats a great idea man im glad you took the time to mention it. @harrrie, had talked about making gifts for people you know and using them to create an idea for you by knowing something they would like. In a way your idea is similiar, i can already think of a lot of songs that create lots of visuals but I have never thought to use that to create art. Thanks again man

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ross (76) (@theboss7607) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@sandman, this is a great speech I watched it years ago but it didnt feel very applicable at that time but now its super relevant thanks for the share!

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ross (76) (@theboss7607) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@motorik, its not pretty but it was the first concept that came to me. Ego basically. Also how the hell do you post a picture inside a dicussion? url was the best i could do and not sure if that will work either

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=2a1fc4da3f&view=att&th=141dd626f8d9f6ec&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P_mosbHcgdWA6lyowdzxvCJ&sadet=1382398797939&sads=3CtiR7H2yRxlQ-B6ni-hFHavKeY

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, ya mon, i’m working on an art project at this very moment. It’s supposed to be mixed media and when I was starting, I had NO ideas. I didn’t know what to use, what the subject should be, how big, what purpose, etc. The rest of my class just took off and I was still there thinking, contemplating. I realized this is the problem; I was thinking too much. Creativity comes from the right side of the brain and I was trying to use the left? The way to find pure inspiration, uniqueness, and imagination is to look within your own mind and just let. it. flow… don’t try and think about how it should be and all the barriers and restrictions it needs. Just close your eyes and get in this “zone” where you can start seeing random images and just go with them; like you’re following a story. What I actually ended up doing is smoking a bowl during lunch (I never smoke at lunch break or for art) and then I went into class and just started drawing. I doodled cool logos, images, and designs that I was able to use later. I just let the creative juices flow. I listened to music as well and that helped. Anyway man, don’t think about it too much. Let the infinite cosmos plant the seed in your head that you just let grow and admire. And don’t lose your inner child

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, Damn it, man. I can’t see it. I CAN’T. lol
Upload the picture on flickr or imgur or any photo site and just paste the main url. It will usually end in .jpg or whatever file format your picture is.

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ross (76) (@theboss7607) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@motorik, http://i.imgur.com/VOldDEv.jpg whew that felt like a lot of work just to show someone my weird drawing lol but hey you helped me get motivated !! thanks for wanting to see it yo

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, Aw yeah. Look at that fat son of a bitch. :]

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@theboss7607, I love that concept. Keep drawing!!!!!!!!!!!

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Z.Dude (176) (@Z.Dude) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

Other advice: Don’t stay alone ! Go to festval, convention, even class ! When I stared going to art class, I meet passionate creatives people, witch give you a highly positive creative and inspirationnal energy… Enjoy :)
Peace and glowstickers time travel, ZDude

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