Americans and Irish?

E.C.F. Doyle (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 9 months ago

I know it is a stereotype but the majority Americans I meet tells me they’re Irish. What is going on there? I know a lot of Irish have gone to america over the years but come on. Even Barrack Obama is at it. And even if their ancestors are Irish it doesn’t really give them the right to invade my culture. It doesn’t offend me or anything. In fact I find it hilarious, it’s like my ma says; “there are two types of people, those who are Irish and those who want to be”. I just would like a little insight as to why people want to be Irish when they clearly don’t get what it means to be Irish. The ones who don’t claim to be Irish seem to understand us a lot better.

On a different note, the Irish seem to get a pretty good reception wherever we go. Which is weird because generally when we go anywhere we just drink profusely. Like when I go to a foreign country I seem to get treated fairly indifferent because I’m a foreigner but when people find out your Irish their enthusiasm towards me immediately increases. It is really weird.

Anybody know what is going on here? It is something that has always puzzled…..

February 26, 2013 at 9:17 am
Caleb McCoy (111) (@cjmccoy93) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

As a fellow Irishman, I know I get just as pissed as you. I think its mainly just because the majority of White Americans are mutts, a mix of Scandinavian, Anglo-Saxon, French, German, Irish, and maybe Eastern European blood. They really can’t trace their genetic heritage back to one ethnic group, and they REALLY want to have some sort of cultural identity that goes past just “American.” Since “American” comes with all sort of negative connotations and they may have one Irish person in their genetic past, they claim to be 100% Irish. But you can’t really fault them for it. We are pretty feckin’ great :)

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E.C.F. Doyle (346) (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@cjmccoy93, I doesn’t piss me off, it just fascinates me. I love being Irish but that’s because I am Irish I don’t really have a choice but to love it. I have never experienced with other races. Like you don’t get germans claiming to be Israeli because someone in there family tree is from there. Most people claiming to be Irish rarely even know what the craic is.

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Caleb McCoy (111) (@cjmccoy93) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@chekovchameleon, I think the reason other races (Like in your german example) don’t do that is because of the guilt and insecurity that comes with “American” and the sheer neutrality that comes with “Irish.” Think about it: the nation of Ireland really hasn’t done that much to piss off any other countries EVER. In fact, we’ve been the victims more often than not. And (psychology has proven this) everybody loves an underdog

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Matthew (1,127) (@ojai) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

It happens with every caucasian background. Ever notice how many people take pride in being Italian in America? Even though they weren’t born in Italy, their parents weren’t born in Italy and even their grandparents weren’t born in Italy? But still people like to stake claim to a heritage. Makes em sound cool and stick out from being American. I love it when people are like “I’m Italian!”…..sure…..sure ya are. Your history, far back, maybe. You? Not so much.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

There isn’t much identity in America, is why. America is the most diverse country in the world, and it hasn’t really been around THAT long. There is no big american culture quite yet. America is a giant mutt.

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ALEC (25) (@ALEC) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@chekovchameleon, Well, Ireland, one of the smallest countries in the world, has had the largest population of emigrants in history. Some 80,000,000 people all over the world claim to have Irish blood in them, so many of the Americans you talk to probably are at least a small fraction of Irish (although many seem to be ignorant of their heritage, which is very sad to me). Personally, I’m 25%. My great-great grandfather, Andrew Lannon, came to the U.S. from county Mayo during the potatoe famine, and settled in the Minnesota countryside where most of his kin still remain.
I mean, obviously I didn’t grow up in Ireland. I’m not an Irish citizen by any means, but I am Irish. When you consider genetic, not to mention a sort of spiritual inheritance, your ancestry has such a deep, greater meaning than just who your relatives were.
Physical traits are passed down, but so are things like personality, values, talents, perspective on life, and so on….it is all ingrained into your brain, and becomes a valuable part of your Nature. I’ve recently been fascinated with the physical and cultural history of Ireland, and I feel like I’ve learned a lot about myself from this research.
This might be getting too deep into things here, but I’m a strong believer that metaphysical traits can be passed down from things that your ancestors experienced, such as a rebellious attitude, or modest outlook on life, gifts for literature/artistic/musical talents and the style in which you personally execute these talents, certain interests, etc. I could go on and on and attempt to elaborate what I’m getting at, but this is actually very difficult to put into words.

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