I’m thinking about majoring in philosophy. I’m a freshman in college. Philosophy is the only subject I have found so far that can hold my attention and keep me interested. Was wondering if there are any philosophy majors here and what you’re now doing with your major if anything?
P.s. If you are the type of person who is against the idea of philosophy major because you believe it will leave you jobless or is a waste of time please don’t say anything of this sort. I’ve heard it and seen in on the internet in my researches. College is about learning, experience, and knowledge. The amount of knowledge that can be attained from a major in philosophy is very broad and even if it may not lead to a solid career right away I believe it would make me happy and I don’t worry about money all that much. I’m pretty poor now and I’m doing alright.
All of the philosophy majors I’ve met (my dad was one) all worked different sorts of jobs. Like head starts teacher assistant, or cook in the hospital. Decent paying jobs around the table, but I feel if you want to leave your footprint on Earth as a philosopher, it really begins when you work with your study outside of your job. Write a book, get involved with the community, things like that.
@mwinship13, I minored in philosophy & majored in business. The former was what truly excited me and the latter was done to appease my practical (job seeking) side. When I was in high school I started reading my sister’s intro to philosophy book and I was hooked. Philosophy was the only subject that I was certain I wanted to learn more about in college. Upon graduating college I realized my philosophy grades were much higher than business grades.
I was 22 when I graduated. Now I’m 31. For years I thought I should’ve gone all the way and majored in philosophy instead of business. My job prospects out of college weren’t great so I figured…”if this is what choosing in job oriented major gets you…I should’ve just majored in what I loved.” Now I look back and I see value in the knowledge attained in both realms. I am happy about the choices I’ve made and what they’ve made me. Knowledge of business got me my previous corporate job of 7 years and it helps me a lot in my current job of DJing. Knowledge of philosophy helps of me think critically about whether or not those jobs serve me as a person and what I get out of doing them in the first place.
I believe with any endeavor, academic or otherwise – you get out of it what you put into it. Be wherever will push you to do your highest quality work and force you to step your game up. The process of completing projects to the best of your ability and answering tough questions in doing so will pay dividends in the long run. Hope this helps!
@mwinship13, I’m a philosophy major and I LOVE IT. :) I’m also a political science major and the two are remarkably compatible.
I feel that philosophy has made me a much deeper, more well-rounded, adaptable person than I could be without it. It is so applicable to real life in ways that many people would never believe. Not only does it teach you a lot, but it teaches you how to think. It gives you a framework with which to build your own philosophy concerning the world and your place in it. You’ll find that even the most mundane aspects of life are made interesting by philosophy. I might sound like I’m glorifying it but…I am! It’s a glorious pursuit, and when you get together with other majors and enthusiasts, it’s a whole new world. I’m only a sophomore in college but I can already tell philosophy will be a lifelong pursuit of mine. Like you said, don’t worry about what people say about jobs and practicality. Philosophy is something applicable to every aspect of life, and will shape you into a very viable candidate for any endeavors you choose to follow.
Also…it’s a community of really really REALLY sexy minds. :)
Most philosophy majors I knew in college are waiters/bartenders now.
Just have a minor is something you can use that way you can go to grad school and get a job.
@descarron, Sure it’s great now, coolest thing to study imo! I loved philosphy
But tell me how great it is when you’re out of college and $40,000 in debt and can’t find a job. Then the debt collection agency calls about “the college has sold your debt to us”… people showing up trying to repo your car, and your working at an applebees and sleeping in your car, and can’t even get food stamps because you cant afford rent, because… you gotta have an address to get food stamps.
If you’re a rich kid, good for you, you’ll be fine. If your a middle-class/lower-class citizen, good luck with this major! You’d be better of studying philosophy on the net. At least that way debt collection agencies wouldn’t take everything you own.
@descarron, You’re a philosophy major? That’s so cool :] I’d love to hear what your stance on life is. Or is it ever changing like mine lol. It seems like there are so many good philosophies out there. At the moment the only thing I believe in is the astral plains and well.. higher existence.
Good point. However, I work ridiculously hard. I have worked my ass off in order to get scholarships to cover tuition and my rent. I also work a part time job. I live within my means and I will graduate with zero debt. My family has given me exactly $0 to help with school; I’ve done it all on my own and I already have my tuition covered for the next two years; three even, if I choose to stay an extra year. You may have missed where I said I have a second major. Just as well, I’m in ROTC which aids tuition costs and pays a stipend. After three years of service as an officer I can apply for grad school or a civilian job in political science. I know people may not agree with the armed forces but I have found my way and I will not have $40,000 in debt when I graduate. Not even $40 in debt. Even without ROTC I’d have my school paid for. And philosophy is only enriching my entire experience.
It’s not luck; it’s hard work! And I’ll be damned if I don’t allow myself to pursue what I love. :) Don’t be a Debbie Downer; all you have to do is be smart about digging up resources and using them to your benefit.
@ballsackturtles23, I’m a philosophy major, and to be honest, I don’t really give a fuck about money. If philosophy really is what I wanna do with my life, I’ll find a way to make it work. I’m an education minor too, so I think I could snag a job as a teacher pretty easy (at least according to former ED majors I’ve talked to). You just need to get your foot in the door, and I’m already interning at a school.
@ballsackturtles23, Very nega man. Why not just be encouraging? Even if people get in debt in college; if they keep chasing their dreams and don’t give up after school they can very well make the money back. Even if they don’t.. Some people can live great without anything. Then there are those that are so poor that all they have is money :]
Thank you! :) I’m flattered you’d want to know, but I have to say–it is ever-changing. Or rather, ever-developing. You should PM me and we can exchange ideas. I am a junkie for what people think about this thing we do called life. :)
@descarron, TS said he was poor. This happens to a lot of people. People have become homeless because they wanted to study this stuff. It’s important to look at every aspect, as every person is different.
I also know a dude with a masters degree going to a community college to become a nurse. Go figure. He could have done that from day one.
@mwinship13, When I went to university, I found most of my friends who weren’t sure what they wanted to major in, ended up in philosophy. When you say “Philosophy is the only subject I have found so far that can hold my attention and keep me interested” it makes me think that you are in the same situation. My advice is don’t force yourself to go to university to do something you aren’t absolutely motivated and inspired by (This is my experience and why I ended up leaving early). If you don’t absolutely love philosophy you’ll just be wasting your time. I say if your not sure what to major in. Take a year off, find out what you want to do with your life. You may not even need college. Just something to think about.
On the flip-side, if you absolutely love philosophy and want to devote time studying it everyday, then go for it, you are a HEthen after all and are probably really into that deep philosophical shit
Well then, @mwinship13 and I are in the same boat! I’ve been poor my entire life. He said he didn’t want to hear a lecture about being jobless; I assume he’s run the gamut of those lectures. It’s a well-meaning lecture, but one that’s been run into the ground already. Every person IS different, which is why your college experience may not be the presentation of philosophy majors of which everyone else needs to take caution. It is possible to study philosophy and become a philosopher–you know, write books, teach, lecture, etc. The goal of supporting the American nuclear family unit is not what everyone desires, so that end isn’t a good measure to denounce philosophy because it doesn’t pay well.
Also…double-majoring is über fun. It’s also viable.
@peaceriot, There are others that are so poor they don’t have a place to sleep or food to eat. Been there. Decisions like these are what put us there. I’m not being negative, I’m talking out of experience. Dude asked for advice, I give him my perspective. The universe isn’t unicorns and marshmallows for all of us.
Besides, is that what you call negative? I call it another angle. I wish someone would have told me that when I was in college, I could have done something else with my time.
@ballsackturtles23, It’s putting a false idea in someones head that they might not make it. That suggestion alone can destroy someone. It’s very subjective you know? I’m in no way trying to be condescending and I know you are just speaking from experience. The thing is though a little positive reinforcement goes a long way. A dream is a dream until you make it a reality. If you put a bad inflection on ones dream it could change the outcome allot depending on how influential you are.
@mwinship13, So my brother I’m not a philosophy major..but I have this major philosophy that as long as you pour 100% of your heart into ONE thing (Philosophy) you can achieve even greater things than you can imagine yourself. Part of it is doing all the research before hand and not rushing into it. Make sure you’re gonna be able to pay it off with a plan. Start interning and working special jobs before or during school etc..
A dream is a dream until you make it a reality. That’s what they teach me at my school and my reality is dreamy right now ;)
@peaceriot, Dark? What are you talking about? I live on the beach and make a living as an artist. My life’s the shit.
You want some good advice? Go to a city, hang out with the people under the bridge. Yeah, the ones with no teeth that stink. Bring some beer for them, they need it. You’ll find talented, very smart people. Go up to the dude with no teeth playing guitar on a street corner. Drink a beer with him. Get his life’s story. You think this can’t happen to you? Somehow you’re above this, if you just try your hardest, it won’t happen to you? Report back, ok let me know how it goes.