Anyone up for some good arguing?

A.O.N.O. (@aono) 9 years, 7 months ago

I think if you really care about somebody, then you care enough to argue with them. However, most people I’ve talked about lately would rather keep it all in whenever they’re confronted with an opposing opinion, because they feel that ‘arguing is pointless’. If you ask me, the desire to share your thoughts on a subject with somebody, and question why they think differently, and talk / argue about it is the ultimate proof that you respect their opinion enough to want to talk about it. I actually think sometimes arguing is way more satisfying than just nodding along to the conversation.. and it truly deepens the relationship between two individuals. Do you think i’m right? If not… I’d love to argue about it ^_<

June 2, 2012 at 12:56 am
Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I do think your right. I would rather say debate, because it implies logical arguments and decorum. But somtimes a good arguments is healthy.

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Th-0m (43) (@0negative) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@aono I completely agree, I just disagree with your approach :) Arguing is awesome. Dick.

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Kim (5) (@miregal) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

So freakin’ right (so sorry, no arguing ;))

I think arguing is really important when you want to make a certain point, or you want to have an interesting conversation.
Some good arguing can really satisfy me, because it always gives me another perspective to look at things. That does not necessarily mean that my opinion has changed, or that I want someone else to change theirs, but it gives new possibilities.

It’s so sad that there are such a few people that can give decent arguments.
The majority of people I know think that you can be ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ about having a certain opinion, and they consider it to be a necessity to prove that they are right by just saying “That’s just the way it is”, or “everybody thinks that”. Those are the lamest arguments (I can’t even call them arguments :s) ever, and so those people are not worth arguing with.

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Sam (10) (@jwasian) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Plus it is really satisfying to have stretched out an argument long enough to soundly beat someone with either a fault in their logic or the impeccable execution of yours.

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Justin (17) (@falsecandles) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I always draw a line between arguing and debates.

A debate has purpose because you are both open to change or a new perspective.

An argument is when it gets heated and you’re both shaking your heads no. Pointless, and at times frustrating.

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Matthew (1,127) (@ojai) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@falsecandles, Agreed.

A discussion or debate is positive in which both sides usually learn something or gain some kind of knowledge in some sense.

An arguement is one person’s emotions versus another’s emotions, in most cases.

A good debate is like dueling pianists. An arguement is like banging pots and pans together.

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A.O.N.O. (7) (@aono) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@ojai, @falsecandles, you’re both absolutely correct – I just couldn’t express it as well as you did (perhaps because English is not my maternal language, I didn’t think to put it as the positive alternative of arguing, ie. debating). Either way, I’m going to give this link to most my friends as soon as possible to perhaps spark some good conversations…
…and so, the topic which was supposed to start as much head-butting as possible, has turnned into one of the most peaceful examples of unanimousness (if there is even a word like that) on HE. Oh, the sweet irony of it… ^_<

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Cody (472) (@versai) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

yea definitely. I would love to debate with my parents about why I no longer follow their religion or lifestyle that they set up for me. But they would never listen, and it would become an argument. Still, someday it must be done and I can’t wait to drill them with my arguments.

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@ojai, has it completely right as far as what I was going to post. Some arguments are more of discussions, wherein two people seek to express a conclusion they have come to, but also understand that perhaps there is a side they have missed (or better yet, they understand that having an idea for only a few weeks, or even months, is not really nearly enough time to claim the idea is complete).

MOST people (especially simple-minded ones) will allow an urge of victory to creep in, and the discussion potentially will be lost to “winning.” When two people do this, there is zero chance for gain and, since they both know they will never actually cave, it’s a lose-lose resulting in two people just being mad at one another.

I think we can all be either of those, given a circumstance. I feel like I did the latter more when I was younger but have since learned to understand just how fruitless it is. @aono,

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Kidd (1,059) (@kidd) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Communication is important, though (like others), I prefer the word “debate” over “argument.”

That being said, those arguing or debating or whatever need to concentrate on keeping their feelings under control. Throwing around insults and being too prideful to admit when one’s wrong is NOT the way to argue. Resentment and bitterness only stirs.

If an argument does escalate to the point where feelings cannot be controlled or subdued, they’ll need to step back and take a breather, and come back to the argument once they’ve cooled down.

Too many people don’t understand this and even those who do lose themselves in the heat of battle and forget to step back and count to ten.

On top of all that, if you want to debate with someone, but they don’t want to do the same, then just don’t do it, in my opinion. Pick your battles, save your energy for someone who wants to listen and will put in just as much passion into as you will. Those are the people you really learn from, whereas those who do not want to argue won’t listen in the first place.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@aono, I agree, keeping things inside you is actually unhealthy and pointless. You should totally argue for what you feel is right. Arguments lead to new ideas:)

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