Apple and Explosive Technological Innovation in 2013

John (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago

Apple has just announced that they are planning to release 3 NEW IPHONES IN 2013.

http://rt.com/usa/news/apple-release-new-iphone-462/

In the past, Apple maintained the pace of 1 new iphone model per year.

Could this announcement be a sign of a decrease in the time that it takes the public to adopt NEW technology?

Have you seen this pattern in other areas?

January 21, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, Apple has yet to confirm those rumors.

I don’t think it has much to do with public demand for new tech, but rather companies trying to speed up product cycles and make their customers feel the need to update to the newest version of whatever product they’re using.

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@jp907,

I think that Apple would not create New Iphones unless there was a demand for them

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Oh it’s all marketing crap.

The only thing Steve Jobs was a visionary at was capitalism.

Fuck Apple. They purposely withhold available technology from iPhones as a financial strategy.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

CONSUME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON’T THINK!!!!!!!!!!! JUST CONSUME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@chodebalm, It would be ironic if you were posting from an Apple product.

ARE YOU?!

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@jakehay, Lol, no. I don’t think I’ve ever bought anything Apple, now that I sit here and think about it. Not that I really have anything against Apple specifically, I just don’t like feeling like I’m being played. In other words, I look at Apple’s plan to release 3 new iPhones this year. I know damn well they could skip those first 2 and just give people a phone with whatever capabilities are planned for the 3rd iPhone this year. But instead, they release 2 phones before that, all so that they can get more of your money.

It’s simple business strategy. I get that. But personally I just don’t like the idea that they think we’re all so dumb we’ll buy whatever product they put out. And you know what? They’re right, because if we weren’t dumb, this sort of business system wouldn’t work. Anyway, I’m rambling. Love you bro.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Not rambling at all, you speak truth!

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Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, The article you linked says in the second paragraph, “…reported a weak demand for the iPhone and that Apple was cutting its orders of the iPhone 5.” Apple is churning out “new” shit to create demand. Building anticipation for a new product is what drives sales.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, LOL really? Apple creates products all the time that no one needs, and everyone (apple fanboys) buys them.

I personally don’t like Apple, I don’t like how they do business. As @jp907, said, they’re just releasing more products so they can make more money. I much prefer when a company refines a product nicely, then releases one version, instead of making tiny tiny changes and releasing new models multiple times a year. Even one new model a year is a lot…

Gaming consles were good. They were released every few years, and they had major improvements to the previous generation. I like how that was done. Imagine if there was a play station 1, then a PS 1.5 with slightly better graphics, then 1.75 with better speed, PS2 as is, PS2.5 with HDMI outputs, PS1.625 with high definition capability (bluray), then finally a PS3 as is.

QUALITY of improvements, not QUANTITY.

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Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xyver, Exactly. Apple has become infamous for their incremental changes to their product lines, releasing multiple versions each year. While one could throw Moore’s Law into the debate here and argue that technology is advancing faster, it doesn’t change the fact that they milk the false novelty of each product for all it’s worth.

@jakehay, Apple does indeed withhold available tech, but so does every other tech company out there. It’s impossible to have the very best phone available because as soon as you manufacture it it’s obsolete. By the time a product like an iPhone is fully developed and distributed, it’s no longer as good as it could be, because it was built around tech that was available months prior to release.

Not saying it isn’t fucked up that companies intentionally give us obsolete products, but there is a natural foundation for the concept. A natural foundation which is exploited for profit, like everything else.

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Anonymous (19) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Apple is a piece of shit company for air headed people who don’t bother to shop around for a better deal. I have asked people why they bother to pay so much for their products, and the answer I literally get time and time again is ‘Because they look nice’. People don’t even fucking care or know what they’re spending their money on anymore, as long as it’s popular and ‘looks nice’. For the cost of their cheapest laptop (around 1000 dollars) I can build a PC that would out-perform any of their products in any way. The fact that this company has been so successful I think says a lot about the Western worlds consumerism. Apple purposefully ships inferior products on the market to milk them for what they’re worth. They thrown in bullshit marketing garbage like ‘Retina display’ and dumb phrases like ‘It just works’. And people just lap it up, and think the products they are buying are superior because they are more expensive. I have to say, Apple’s marketing department has certainly earned every single penny they have worked for, without them, the company would soon become bankrupt once everyone realizes they are paying more for less. /rant

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Stoney Baloney (614) (@adamm0ss) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Yeah, you wont even need to speak to people anymore. You just tell Siri your problems, and she blows you.

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@chodebalm, @adamm0ss, @drakonerythros, @jp907, @xyver,

You guys have talked a lot about how Apple overprices their “mediocre” products. You have also talked about how they hold back the cutting-edge technology from the market.

What NO ONE has talked about is how RADICAL/INSANE/SUPER SUPER EXTRAORDINARY is the idea of releasing 3 of the same product in the same year!!

Just image if you went back to 1995 and told the press your company was planning to release 3 of the same product in one year!! In addition to that you had already released 5 of that product already!

You can justify this “craziness” by saying that the Iphones are not that different, but that does not take away from the fact that Apple releasing 3 in one year!

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Joey (29) (@hallucinate) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, Saying that the iPhones are not that different CERTAINLY DOES take away from releasing 3 in the same year. In no way whatsoever is Apple an extraordinary, cutting-edge manufacturer of goods. They’ve never even invented anything, they stick stick an “i” in front of their version of something that has already existed for a long time.

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Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, I’m sorry, but I’m completely failing to see why this is extraordinary or amazing at all. It might be amazing if they revolutionized another industry, such as cell phones with the iphone or tablets with the ipad, but they’re not doing anything exceptional here.

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@jp907,

I used the word “extraordinary” with the meaning of out of the ordinary.

If in 1995 a company announced they were going to release 3 of the same product in the same year.

It would be the equivalent of releasing 12-15 of the same product in today’s world.

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Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, Ahh I see. I misunderstood what you were saying.

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t-rav (25) (@travis) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, How many other phone companies release multiple phones every year? It’s not that extraordinary. They are one of the most profitable companies ever and if they do make this move it is purely because they think it is a good business move. They know they have a base of people that have to have the latest and greatest so they are capitalizing on it.

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Zane (89) (@albinomongoose) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Anybody heard of the Oculus Rift? Immersive Virtual Reality coming to a store near you within a year: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/01/18/some-early-reactions-to-the-oculus-rift-virtual-reality-headset/

Combine this with photo-realistic graphics (totally within reach), the Leap Motion controller, and a Kinect, and you have a totally consuming experience.

I definitely think the rate of technological speed in increasing. I’ve always liked the theory that, with every tool humans create (any tech), we then use those tools to create more tools. Seeing what I’m getting at? Exponential change.

Exciting stuff.

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Stoney Baloney (614) (@adamm0ss) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@luzimzo, I don’t remember saying that. Actually, I am typing on a 6 year old macbook that is working better than any new PC laptop I have had. I was more so making fun of the zombie/consumer epidemic.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Sigh. This room is full of people who dont understand a lick of the concept of business. You people blame the company for capatilizing on their target market. Would you please stop for a second, and think, that maybe, just MAYBE, its the population that is at fault? Apple doesnt come to your door and put a gun to your head and say you need the new iphone. They dont force you to upgrade, saying your old phone will soon be obsolete. When I bought the Iphone 2(or whatever it was called), I had it for 2 years until it broke. two new Iphones came out, but I didnt buy them because I didnt want to, I was happy with my phone. I only went and bought a new phone because I needed a phone, and mine was broken. Its SO fucking easy for America, and this site in general, to blame to corporations, when its you fools who are completely to blame. If I owned Apple and released an iphone 5, a few months later all my consumers would come up to me and demand a new one. Thats what happens, the consumers demand new products. What then should I do as the owner of apple? Tell my customers to fuck off and just use their phone? OR would I want to make my company, and my employees more money? Why in the fuck would I want to alienate my customer base by NOT coming out with a new phone, that they demand? What if I have a new innovation coming out in a couple of years that will help this world for the better(much like how the ipad helped connect people more, help companies, and the numerous benefits it provided), would I not want to keep my customers happy until then so they keep coming back?

The next time you want to blame a corporation, do me a favor and shut the fuck up. Blame the person next to you. Blame the parents who spoil their kids. Blame society that competes with each other by wanting to have the newest products. Blame the media who makes you feel like less of a man if you dont have a new product. Blame yourself for being a tool and falling into all of these things. You people put all the blame on the corporation because thats MUCH easier then looking at yourself. “lets just blame that big mean corporation for making me buy their products over and over!”

Good fucking god, what a disgusting society we are becoming. I love America and everything we stand for, but im starting to hate more and more people that live in it.

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Sorry for being so blunt. But im sick of this crap. We blame guns for killing people. We blame corporations for making us buy their products over and over. We blame fast food for making us fat. We blame TV for making us lazy. We blame the government for everything else. When we keep blaming all our faults on these inanimate things, we are taking the focus away from what the real issue is: YOU. If you change your life and dont eat fast foods, they will lose money and some will go away, while the others will readjust and start making healthier foods to meet the needs of people. If you dont buy every god damn apple phone when it comes out, the company will only release products that have completely new technology. All this “Ahh how dare these companies, lets boycott” bullshit doesnt work. All it does is bring more attention to the companies, and entail bring them more pawns that are customers. The only real way to change is to change your own god damn selves instead of blaming everything but you.

All of this reminds me of that one simpsons episode when all the billboard and such come to life. Let us all follow that episodes moto. “JUST DONT LOOK. JUST DONT LOOK.”

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@yoinkie,

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID!

Just so you know this thread has nothing to do with technology.

If you read the responses you will see that.

THIS post has more to do with the increasing rate of technological innovation.

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