Are Aliens Among Us? Or at least visited us?

Noah (@noahinator) 9 years, 5 months ago

I saw similar posts to this one, but I want to ask a a single specific question as a poll. I have a homework asisgnment for a class called Life in the Universe… I am suppose to ask “Are Aliens Among Us? Or at least visited us?” And then why? What evidence is there?

I have to write a short essay for the subject based on informed opinions and not so informed opinions. Please help, this is a discussion that interests me personally as well.

August 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm
R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@noahinator, I do not think that aliens have visited us because the amounts of distance and time required to reach us is unfathomable.

I’ve taken the same class

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@noahinator, A good explanation for the basic building blocks of human life being on earth is that it came from a meteor that landed on earth. There have been a couple of meteors that have since landed that scientists have found amino acids and such.

There have been so many instances throughout history where it seems we were visisted by aliens. The city of Puma Punku in Peru, is built entirely of humongous stones that are carved with intricate tools, advanced tools, most likely power tools. Only problem is, the city of Puma Punku was built 8,000 years ago atleast, in a time when humans had absolutely no capabilities to build such structures. Google the City, and it will give you more then enough evidence for your assignment. Also, look at all the stone and wood carvings of figures that look like aliens that pop up in every culture everywhere since the dawn of man. How did so many different people sketch the same figures, when there was no way of communicating or traveling to each other?

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Peter (152) (@searchingforthetruth) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Evidence? I believe the vast majority of the world’s population has no evidence to the existence of extraterrestrials.

I have seen videos of astronauts claiming to have seen extraterrestrial ships on space explorations.

Based on our existence and the amount of galaxies and the stars in the universe, the possibility of alien life is very real. The universe is 13 billion years old. Its also possible that there have been life to exist in the past but have thus become extinct with the ending of their sun. How many black holes and burnt out suns do we know of?

I also believe that it is unhealthy to think that alien life is not possible. It only helps to perpetuate the ill effects of the ego on our environment and our society…that somehow humans have skipped the millions of years on evolution and have thus originated at the top of the food chain.

I believe in alien life. I believe aliens are among us.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Also, I would also look at “Gods” throughout history in different cultures. A lot of civilizations have based their idea of God off of creatures that visit them from the sky. Think of humans thousands of years ago, not knowing what we know now; what would they think of alien ships and aliens coming down to earth other then they are Gods? I think that why the idea of God has always been closely related to the sky and the “heavens”.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I agree with @yoinkie, I think that if there is such a thing as God or god(s)/goddess(es), then they are most likely extradimensional beings or aliens. Both because of the whole connection between deities and the sky and because of them having powers that we don’t understand, such as the ability to appear human or transform into animals or stuff like that.

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Daniel (316) (@qwuakeup) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Evidence is a very big word and implies a “truth”. But how do we know that what we think is truth isn’t just learned?

The ancient alien theory is simply – Extraterrestrials with superior knowledge of science and engineering landed on Earth thousands of years ago for the purpose of mining Gold (Doesn’t corrode/oxidize, great conductor, malleable) . Their home planet was running out of resources and Earth had an abundance of Gold due to the lack of a civilization to mine it. (Gold is created by a supernova nucleosynthesis, a supernova star that explodes and with it is Gold that flies all throughout space)

These E.Ts saw potential in the primates and original humans living at the time, and wanted to have these primates mine the Gold for them, but their intelligence was inefficient to be taught anything of this nature.

That’s where we come in, when these E.Ts applied genetic/DNA manipulation on these primates the experiment resulted in an increase in intelligence and that’s what we are now.

If you want evidence the best way is to find it yourself, put the pieces together yourself, use your own thinking. At the end of the day, people will have their own evidence, and this applies to modern science.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, Your logic is lacking a few key considerations – you assume that in order for aliens to travel to this world, they must travel by using the conventional methods of travel, ie physically traveling through space.

The interesting and entirely possible aspect of space travel is the theory of manipulating the fabric of space – warping it so that 2 points in space are no longer separated by what we call “distance”.

I believe it’s entirely possible that beings have been here. I also believe the possibility is equally as fascinating as wondering HOW they got here.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, Distance is not so much a problem with time on your hands. There are theories on generational ships, hell we have theories on completely self sustainable cities. Living for thousands of years in a ship filled with renewable technologies is not such a crazy idea. The main problem would be gravity but I have heard that if you spin a vessel in space you can create a type of force acting like gravity, like a centrifugal force.
Also there is the ramscoop technology idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussard_ramjet
@noahinator, You should watch the movie “Fire in the sky” with Robert Patrick.

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chodebalm, I see your point, but I’m also accounting for that we don’t know how long space faring civilizations even exist. Even if there were some outstandingly advanced species out there, far ahead of us by millions and millions of years, they could already be long gone.

The window for two intelligent species to be both at a stage where one could contact the other is very narrow considering how old the universe is. For all we know the universe has been abundant with intelligent life but we happen to exist in a time frame where the only other civilizations are neither close or capable of contacting us

Yes I think it is possible that beings have visited here, I just don’t think it’s very probable

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Ben (148) (@cognizantelephant) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

We’re aliens.

:)

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, Good stuff, bro. Very good points.

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Also, to further elaborate on my reasoning: what about that we haven’t received any signals coming from space that would indicate other intelligent civilizations? Don’t you think that an advanced civilization would be doing everything it could to find others? Maybe not.

There’s also the case that we can’t even receive their signals, which would make them just pass up our star system up in their search.

Now if aliens are among us we would have to show proof but all such evidence is highly anecdotal and can never be verified

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Just some Star-Trek trivia for you. Maximum warp in Startrek is 9.97, 10 is impossible, but 9.97 is not a sustainable speed, 9.95 is more reasonable. 9.95 equates to about 1000 times the speed of light. Voyager was teleported by some unknown force to the Delta quadrant, their possition would have been roughly half the length of our galaxy away. If they were to travel at warp 9.5 without interuption, without stopping for supplies which was impossible, then it would take them over 70 years to reach the nearest out-post of the Federation, and that out-post would probably be another 30 or 40 years travel from Earth.
So that is the kind of size our galaxy is.
Also, as for the ammount of stars in our galaxy: If you have a book, each page has a star from our galaxy, and you spend 1 second looking at each star, it would take you 10,000 years to finish the book.
(note: these numbers are all theoretical, I am unsure of what the reality is on this)
But there is a lot of distance but there is also a lot of star systems. For an alien race to come here by generational ships, they would have to be, in relative terms, our next door neighbour, to not only be able to get here in a reasonable ammount of millenium but to be able to identify our Earth and star as having potential for their purposes.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I have a theory that if there are aliens here then they have come from a lot closer than we think. Mars and Venus have been brought up in pop-culture as alien home worlds, but I would most likely consider the moons of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune to be potential origins.
When you look at Europa, a moon of Jupiter, it is ice. The theory is that if its core is hot then the ice could be on top of a liquid ocean that may well be capable of suporting life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon)
But many moons of the gas giants have similar potentials.

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Noah (0) (@noahinator) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@qwuakeup, If you are talking to me about researching the topic myself, I have. There hasn’t been any “knowledge” provided here that I haven’t seen, heard or previously indulged in. I’ve been interest in Aliens and UFOs since forever. My assignment however is to take a poll and write an essay on that.

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O’Reilly (804) (@oreilly) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I think that they do exist. I believe that they have visited Earth on many occasions and there may be some walking among us. I also think that they believe that we, as a species, are complete assholes. We have everything we need to end hunger, starvation, many diseases, and pollution, yet we don’t do it because there isn’t any money in helping other people. In fact, we continue to contribute to our own demise every day. This makes us come across as quite primitive. I’m positive that they don’t want to interact with us for fear of us contaminating or threatening their culture and lifestyle. Yet they want us to succeed. They keep watching us, hoping that we’ll put it all together. Its like they’re waiting for us to “wake up”. Once we do that, they’ll probably consider making contact and helping us reach the next level.

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Sean LeBlanc (76) (@bongodeburrito) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

What if we are aliens, man?

But really, Sirius has been a popular topic of discussion for intelligent life. There is a strong connection between the Sirius system and many religions and things of occult nature. Plus, its relatively close (8.6 light years away). I think if there’s life out there, that should be the first place we focus our attention.

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