Are we all crazy?

Anonymous (@) 9 years, 9 months ago

So guys recently i’ve been asking and trying to engage in conversation about life and where we came from and everyone goes silent, it’s as if they don’t care and it freaks me out it makes me feel like it’s neg social behavior. The person who introduced to me these intriguing topics and I can have fond conversations with is anti-social + extremely cynical/depressed and it’s starting to make me feel scared. I mean maybe it’s just unhealthy all these philosophical issues and maybe these sites are pointless in itself and we should just feel good in our own niche and close this out of our minds

August 11, 2012 at 12:31 am
Nightowl (260) (@nightowl) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

“maybe it’s just unhealthy all these philosophical issues and maybe these sites are pointless in itself and we should just feel good in our own niche and close this out of our minds”

Na.
Life did not develop to be lived as a slave to empty practicality.
These parts of our mind are the cutting-edge of 4 billion years of evolution.
Higher thinking is what will lead us to be a higher culture and a new species.

I know what you mean, people going cold about that sort of thing… So many literally shut it out in a manner to where their minds can’t hear it. It conflicts too much with the dim dream of their reality they’ve created, they’re not wakeful, and they’re the type that want to sort abouts the mental and emotional dust of the material world.

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c0ndu17 (14) (@c0ndu17) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

IF you can stop thinking about it. Do the Nike thing and just do it. Ignorance really is bliss. Why are stupid people always so happy? I am stuck on this and best part is I know there is no answer, so there can be no end for me. At least I get why the American government puts Fluoride in the water. At the same time, a constant question on my mind, who wants to be normal? normal is average, crazy is special =)

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Nightowl (260) (@nightowl) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@c0ndu17 I whole-heartedly disagree. True knowing is bliss, not anaesthetic but aesthetic

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c0ndu17 (14) (@c0ndu17) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@nightowl, and I disagree with your statement, bliss is relative. So we will have to agree to disagree. I feel ignorance makes it easier for somebody to reach the same bliss as an intellectual would feel from putting in a lot more effort. Look at it in terms of achievement, lets take sport for example. Millions of people watch sport, they achieve a sense of accomplishment, and many ecstasy, for there team when they win. How many scientists would you feel the same. I am not saying they wouldn’t enjoy watching sport but they are not going to feel like THEY have done anything, they are not going to reach that same level of bliss as somebody who has failed so epically at life they have resulted to leeching of other peoples success, and claiming it as there own. Maybe I am just not a sports time, and I cannot understand. As a scientist I love knowledge, and I cannot be happy with not knowing.

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Shana♥ (1) (@shanaheartsu) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@limitedmoon, Too many people are ‘okay’ with living in the dark. Without speculation, there is no imagination; without imagination, there’s no progress. I agree with your assessment, people are scared to talk about these things. I think it has more to do with the fear of being proven wrong, or just the general uncertainty of the topic. Personally, these are my favorite conversations. :)

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Nightowl (260) (@nightowl) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@c0ndu17, my reference to “true knowing” was not towards the result of scientific deduction, it’s something very different, a trait of the higher mind that I mentioned in my first post

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darlingdots (1) (@darlingdots) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I can relate. I started a spiritual journey over a year ago and was introduced to concepts that I had never considered and certainly none that friends or family really believed. I thought I was going crazy for awhile too. However, if you remain open to it you will start to attract people into your life who want to discuss the same topics. A good book I read said that there won’t be a lot of people you can talk to as not that large of a percentage of the population is on the leading edge. However, after the end of this year, more and more people will have a spiritual awakening and it will be easier than it has been!! Keep on keeping on, Justin.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

People who ignore these questions may seem happy on the outside, but more often then not, they feel empty – the problem is they don’t know what the problem is! So they go to therapists, they take pills, they try all kinds of crazy things to figure out what is wrong, when in reality it is being blinded to their true self- their true nature.

To go through life accepting that work, money, and notoriety are the most important things will definitely make you sick. You may gain small dopamine bursts from promotions, or from a slightly bigger pay check, or buying your first big screen TV or really nice car, but these aren’t permanent.

Going on a spiritual journey and finding yourself usually does begin in a slightly uneven, unsteady, and possibly even depressed state. To obtain enlightenment, and thus be happy, is accepting a journey through life. To ignore this, and act as if it is “crazy” won’t do you any good in the long run, and you will feel like you are missing something, but you will have alienated it so much as to be unable to recognize it, when in actuality it is everything around you.

Hence why people take vacations. Hence why people love the wilderness. Hence why people take walks and jogs in the woods, or go camping. They may seem happy, but they need this re-connection with nature, but it obviously won’t be enough to simply walk through the woods – it may feel a little bit better, but to sit down, stare at the trees, and realize they give life to all, and that nature is your mother / brother / sister and we are all just beings existing… that will bring peace of mind more so than a large pay check.

Don’t kid yourself – you need these types of questions and the insights that follow.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@limitedmoon, How do you feel about 1 + 1=2? Oh you don’t care either way? Why is that? Because its a fact. People are crazy, it’s a fact. When you say it as a fact, you are also aware that what makes everyone insane is also in you, the difference being that most people are unable to see the insanity (there are a lot that do though even if they don’t conceptually realize it)

When you say it as a judgement, you see everyone else as insane and yourself as the only sane one. You look down on humanity and the “others” you are labeling insane. In this case you are just unaware of the fact that you are just like everyone else but want to feel different and special, leading to paranoid belief systems and depression like your friend has.

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kirkwilly (35) (@kirkwilly) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Yes we are all crazy, I think only cause NO ONE has answers to our deep thought questions and we choose to believe in sciences or religion when nothing is for sure. I say embrace your wondrous mind, their gifts and curses. I sometimes have problems keeping my mind from a negative spiral, but I guess that’s just pitty,inferiority, false pride all negative aspects of life that we feed and some people just stay away from that. But the times I get empathy, humility, serenity and truth makes all the dark times worth the light kind of deal. If you want to engage in deep conversation, you’ll see some strangers are the best at deep conversation. I found that out hitchhiking. I think the problem is talking about a topic which is hard to gather your thoughts and convey an image that’s easy to understand. Ease them into it, comfortably I suppose!

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Ben (148) (@cognizantelephant) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I think one of the biggest things to tackle when uncovering the truth of our universe and consciousness in society, is the parents. I bet a lot of kids around 15-20+ are starting to get these thoughts, and when they converse and share their ideas with ones who are close to them, they are negated by their peers. This creates negative attention toward the subject matter and halts progression of thought and limits it to the capacity of the peers mood and or life experiences. How limited an approach is that in itself? JEEZ Why do we subject ourselves to prospective elimination of thought through our peers? Because we’ve lost a tribal influence, we’re no longer a society that values and promotes thought for oneself, speakers that are well known for being aware individuals. We need those things, community that allows these thoughts to be brought to attention, and made clearer so we can all benefit.

A guy like Eckhart Tolle. I’ve learned so much from what he’s shared just on youtube. It literally made a difference in my life that I wouldn’t have encountered while on my own or with my peers. At least not for a long time, but time is money

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icymore (11) (@icymore) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

yes, we are all crazy. but that doesn’t mean we should stop asking questions or close the discussion.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

When you get the call, hang up the phone.

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Anonymous (130) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@limitedmoon, when you reach a depth in which you dug yourself in search of the truth, two things occur: 1. Your reality is so different that people will not be able to imagine it, because they lack the foundational experiences or the welcoming ritual so to speak. 2. Nothing matters, so what do you do, and that is why your friend is depressed.
I agree with “when you get the call, hang up the phone” not after!
But still, being contribut-ively(i know that wasn`t a word until now) ingenious, is still, very nice.

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Anonymous (50) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Thanks for the very cute as well as insightful responses :P @ijesuschrist, I’m totally with you @mikeyw829, Sorry what i meant to say was that my friend is depressed which leads her to think of things like death and stuff although somehow you have pinpointed her quite right, she does think shes right all the time.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Questions about life and where we have come from are what philosophers and religions have been grapling with for millenium. The fact is that we are no more sure than we have ever been. The main reason why people shy away from it is because they fear the path it may take, case in point; your friend. The search can tear you apart if you do not have perspective on just what really matters in your life.
The moment you put the search ahead of those you love and that which recharges you, what makes life worthwhile to you, is when you risk falling into the abyss. The temptation of pushing aside love and that rechrging stuff is the illusion that they are getting in your way of discovery, that it is taking too long because of them, they are counter-productive to your efforts. But they are not, they protect you from obsession and when you come full circle you may just discover that they are the very answer you are looking for.

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