Atheism is Depressing
i know because the idea of complete annihilation after death is scary, death reduce everything to dust, there is no divine rewards or punishments, in this world many times even cruel and nasty rejoice, while a innocent suffer, look at the animal world full of suffering….this is problem of evil and crushes the concept or belief in god altogether…………whereas Theism and religion present an imaginary and still comfortable picture of the world, with divine rewards, love of god non sense etc…..where as the truth is we all going to die completely one day, human race will extinct, and sun will eat the earth after 5 billion years….
i understand why u are so Depress, Naturalism presents a TRUE, but scary picture of the world….
You really find not believing in god to be depressing? I find it to be more liberating than anything else. The truth is, we are immortal, always have been and always will be. “Conciseness” itself may or may not remain, maybe not in the context we know it, but the energy, the matter that makes up your physical body has been around since before it was a star, and will be around until that energy or matter is recycled in another life form or organic material or whatever. I take comfort in knowing that we are all part of the same universe, and even long after everyone is dead we will still go on with the same “oneness” of the universe. If you obtain this outlook on life, which in reality is just simple truth, you will find that less shit out there will be capable of bothering you or bringing you down. Stay happy friends.
@lostinmyownthoughts, Thanks brother…what is bothering me or many Atheist is not Shit, they are hard core realities of life, death, pain and evil in the nature and in human life, since u become dust after death, there is no immortality,of any sort, the type of immortality u are talking about is not comforting, dust is dust, whereas it is an psychological fact that belief in rebirth of any sort, give humans pleasure, since this life is not the end,we will come again and will enjoy the worldly pleasures,,,
@doglover09, I mean, I guess it could be depressing if you let it. Try not to dwell on those things right now. Once you’re dead…you won’t be able to think about it so how can it be depressing? Were you depressed before you were born? I guess it’s all in how you choose to look at things.
i used to be so proud of being an atheist, and i still am but not to the same degree as before. i always felt contempt with the blankness of death, even during my most mystical experiences with entheogens, until the recent death of one of my best friends shook me from that. i get angry with myself sometimes with the idea that i can’t see my friend in a better place anymore. i guess he is at peace, but does that mean i wish him death? if not, do i want to wish him back into this cruel world?
For me its not depressing, for me its motivational, everything I will ever be or achieve I have this life time to do it in. I can’t just cop out and believe that I will be eternally happy after I die and thereby accept a sub-achievable level of happiness in this life.
For those experiencing the cruelty and destruction, surely an end to all of it is welcome, not ideal I realize as a peaceful happy existence would have been preferred. But alas such is life, we don’t all get dealt the same hand of cards.
@doglover09, use it to your advantage. I mean, if this is it, then why wouldn’t you just go for it with life. In a way it could be an advantage over theists, who think this is more of test run, so may plod through life quite happily just waiting for what is at the end. If you believe there is no power over you, then make this life completely yours.
I find it more depressing that some think you can’t enjoy life at all without the belief in a deity. Is life that bad that it is a must? I don’t mind what people believe, but thinking that there is a NEED to believe in a deity in order to be happy is sad.
@doglover09, I use to think it was depressing at first but then I started thinking where was I before I was born. I’ve been “dead” for billions of years and it hasn’t inconvenced me.
I think it was Alan Watts who said then when people think of death they think that their gonna be locked up in a dark room forever and never be let out. That is not the case though. Imagine death as falling asleep and never waking up. I think that is a more accurate and less depressing modle of death.
Also on the point about a divine judge, I’ve always found the idea of “bad people” go to hell and “good people” going to heaven completly retarded ever since I was a child. There is really no such thing as good or bad. There is so much grey area. I’ve read so many books where I couldn’t even decide whether a character would ebd up in heaven or hell. This is why I think the idea of good and bad is quite primitive. When we die we the king and the pawn get put in the same box. That’s the fairest way.
@doglover09, if we were immortal through some kind of afterlife, then the value we place on this life we’re living would be so diminished! Expecting only one finite life allows you to value every experience as precious and fragile; if you had more time in this world where would your motivation come from? Why accomplish anything, why love anyone, why explore, why think, why cry, why smile, if you have eternity in heaven or valhalla to do these things?
As an athiest i don’t really see thee need to obsess over what happens when we die. Yes death can be scary to those who are alive but its just a fact of life so why worry about what happens afterwards, only way you can really know is having experienced it yourself and I’ve never met someone who has, have you?
Hence why I don’t think anyone is a true atheist.
Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why should I fear which can only exist when I do not? – Epicurus
Think of your life as a dream state. If you are capable of contemplating your death, then you are able to realize you are living in a dream. Once you become aware of that fact, lucidity steps in. Think about how much time you are able to spend in a dream in which only lasts 1 hour. I’ve had dreams that went on for days but when I awoke, only one hour had passed. Think of your death as the same thing. After your body has died, there is still 6-8 minutes of brain activity. Without a body to tie yourself to time, you can live a whole other life in that 6-8 minutes.
The past and the future do not exist. We cannot grasp it, we cannot change it. the only thing that exists and we can change is the current microsecond that we inhabit. So death does not exist just yet. Only life. Take advantage of that life while you still can, and go over the waterfall called death when it is in front of you.
This week I have been going in and out of perceiving other dimensions and then having serious atheistic thoughts…
Am I going crazy?
If we are highly evolved animals, then love is a made up concept we have designed to keep from killing ourselves
I think true atheism is somewhat bs. How can anyone say with certainty that there is no divinity in the universe? What is divinity anyway? Isn’t divinity there whenever you see it there? Can’t anything that makes you pause and contemplate your place in the universe be called sacred?
Death/change is the great tragedy of life, but it is also what makes life so precious and beautiful. We appreciate things because we know nothing is guaranteed to last or even happen at all.
The truth is, nobody really knows what happens after death. This physical body could just be like an eggshell that we hatch from when we die. I mean, for all we know. The fear we have of dying could be equivalent to a baby being horrified by the thought of leaving the womb. We who are already born can’t tell the baby not to worry because we live a higher existence in another dimension where things like language, light, time, and space exist. Until we are born, we are completely unaware of these aspects of life.
That considered, how can we assume that death is the end? It might be, and it might not be. It seems like such a waste of energy to get all sad about it.
There’s no definitive proof that death is the end of everything. I like to believe that whatever gave us life in the beginning, leaves our bodies with the collective knowledge of everything we’ve ever done, felt, seen, heard, thought, and joins with the rest of the universe as one giant entity. A giant collective of the knowledge of every life that has ever existed in the universe.
Makes the days feel a little less worrisome believing there is something after death even if that something isn’t puffy white clouds and a tall bearded man in white. Just my 2 cents.
@lostinmyownthoughts, That is Lucretius Symmetry argument against the fear of Death…u are right i will not be there when sun will eat the earth, i was just saying complete annihilation after death that idea is more scaring that reincarnation, reincarnation can be comforting for a religious man..
@doglover09, You might find some consolation in this book called “the present.”
@eyesopen, u are right dear….immortality is going to make life boaring….but still complete annihilation at Death thought with you completely buried into darkness is somehow scary…..if a religious man think that his soul is immortal and if he will do good actions he will be promoted in next birth is not true, but it is somehow uplifting for him….it give him psychological comfort…whereas for an atheist, death is the end….and no matter how u life,how much knowledge u acquire, how much power u acquire, art , beauty everything will be reduce to dust one day….i am not saying if it will perish it got no value to it…movie ends but we still enjoy it but that our being completed annihilated is an depressing result of life….U are speaking against immorality….but if DEATH will come near u , u will run,, if u will be given option of extending your life through some means, u will extend it…No one like Death ” Death is an Fearful thing ” william shakesphere..
@kipgoeing,Thanks bro a lot… you are just giving a hypothesis…which got no evidence to proof or disprove….and we cannot compare our knowledge of world ,science tech, and our Ideas of Death, with a baby fear of leaving a womb…Death is scary to all animals, we are all guided by self preservation
@moonglade, Thanks Dear i got a quotation for u
“Death must be so beautiful. To lie in the soft brown earth, with the grasses waving above one’s head, and listen to silence. To have no yesterday, and no to-morrow. To forget time, to forgive life, to be at peace” Sylvia Plath
@morningwoods, This quotation of Epicurus is good but not practical…even if we cease to exist after Death…still Idea of Death is scary…i am giving an example don,t mind….if u will listen news that u will died after 1 year due to AIIDS it will scare hell out of you..