I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Granted there are a lot of ways to define “God”, but they all tend to share the theme of being the creator of the universe. If this is what God is, wouldn’t whatever created the universe be considered “God”? Playing around with a few theories, the creator of the universe could be: A physical being, a spirit, a thought, the big bang, yourself, humans creating a paradox, another universe, FSM, ect…
That being said, atheists simply don’t believe in a divine being, by definition. A divine being is said to be “God-like”. God is the creator of the universe, not necessarily a spirit or physical being. It is my understanding that an atheist has a theory of how the universe was created, while an -agnostic- simply doesn’t commit to any speculation. This seems like a paradox to me.
God = Creator of the universe
Atheist = Doesn’t believe in a divine being
Divine being = Creator of the universe
Thus an atheist must believe in God, no?
The only exception to this that I can think of would be if someone thought the universe simply wasn’t created. That the universe always was and always will be.
I’d particularly like to hear from some atheists on this matter. Also, if anyone finds a mistake in my logic, by all means share it! This line of thinking seems really basic to me and I can’t help but feel it’s flawed somewhere, even if I can’t find it. Sometimes it helps to have someone else take a look at the same problem.
@whowhatwhy, Maybe you need to learn what a fact is. Because the fact is that you do not.The other fact is that a God or Gods or any divine being has no evidence of ever existing.
This is also a pointless thread now. It will just turn into people getting hurt. Go pray/talk in tongues or something.
Being Anti-Anything is a bad thing. But Atheism is someone who does not believe in a Gold or religion. See it how you like… Most will have no interest in your assumptions apart from entertaining themselves with your misguided Faith.
@chekovchameleon, Amazing yet again
@chekovchameleon, so atheists do take religion literally and thus my initial point stands. Mainstream atheism cannot exist but in contrast with mainstream religion-ism and it does nothing but to perpetuate the disinformation.
Edit: The disinformation is the literal and superficial view of religion.
@whowhatwhy, Maybe, Maybe you should look in the mirror.
But I find all true religious people are… It is part of being in a religion is it not?
I have never denied being a fanatical Atheist.
I just love the topic of religion. I find it amazing how people can believe these things. But I also see the horrific things that come with most of these religions.
But again, we are all born Atheists. So no, your wrong.
@whowhatwhy, not quite sure how much clearer I can make this. An atheist is someone who does not believe in God(s).
Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or god
It is irrelevant how atheists take religion, whether it be literally or figuratively because we are not the believers.
Atheists do not discount all the teachings of religions as wrong. Atheists simply don’t believe in god.
lot of people dont really know what science is saying and they create their own retarded theories based on a lot of misinformation and misinterpretations of stuff they read somewhere.
Obviously there are a million different interpretations of every bible and every religion. As an atheist, I personally don’t care much about any of them. The metaphors are interesting, sometimes beautiful, and always philosophical, but overall, they don’t matter to me. They don’t affect how I live my life in any way. To put it another way:
“Whether you take the doughnut hole as a blank space or as an entity unto itself is a purely metaphysical question and does not affect the taste of the doughnut one bit.” – Haruki Murakami
So whatever point you think atheists are missing about religion–and maybe you’re right about that, maybe you’re wrong–it doesn’t make a difference. Being atheist, for me at least, means it’s just not very important to me.