Being really prejudice

R.V. Star (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago

I’m really prejudice, sometimes bordering on racist. This is because I know what I like and don’t like in a culture and have experience being inside the ones i don’t like, and people with certain racial attributes tend to belong to these certain cultures that I happen to dislike Plus I grew up in a really prejudice household.

So go ahead and admit it? Who else here is prejudice scumbag? I’d rather fly the rebel flag than old glory

June 2, 2012 at 3:49 am
Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

I have no prejudice. I hate everyone equally.

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@beyond, nice, that’s really the only way to do it

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Vasco (224)C (@vasco) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, Or you could love everyone equally. But you needn’t go as far as that, you just need to realize that prejudiced beliefs are not useful to you at all, and that you should drop them. Here’s one way to explain why:

Steve Pavlina wrote that beliefs should pass all of the following criteria in order to be empowering and worth keeping:

” 1. Accurate. Effective beliefs must be consistent with your observations of reality. Your beliefs cannot contradict any facts you know to be true.

2. All-inclusive. For your beliefs to be effective, they must collectively address your entire field of experience. If you experience things you cannot explain from within your belief system, then your belief system is incomplete. And an incomplete belief system can never be fully trusted.

3. Flexible. Effective beliefs adapt well to new circumstances. They serve you well regardless of your career, income level, relationship situation, lifestyle, etc.

4. Ethical. It is never effective to choose beliefs that lead you to harm yourself or others. Such beliefs are rooted in fear, and fear comes from ignorance. If your beliefs are true, then you can accept reality rather than fear it, which means there is no cause for violence or dishonesty.

5. Congruent. Either your beliefs must be internally consistent with each other, or you must have a higher order meta-belief that tells you how to resolve lower level in congruencies.

6. Consciously chosen. You inherit your initial set of beliefs from your upbringing and societal conditioning. But as a fully awake adult, those beliefs should be identified, examined, and then deliberately altered or integrated. This is an ongoing process that can take years, if not your entire lifetime.

7. Pleasure-increasing and/or pain-reducing. Effective beliefs make you feel good, either by elevating your emotional state directly or as a side-effect of generating results you desire. Effective beliefs also reduce fear; when your beliefs are accurate, certainty replaces fear.

8. Empowering. Your beliefs should allow you to experience whatever is technically possible; they should never mislabel the possible as impossible. Subject of course to ethical/moral considerations, your beliefs should not unduly limit your abilities. If you belief something is impossible for you, then it must truly be impossible regardless of your thinking. If a belief shift would change your abilities (like the placebo effect), then your belief is both disempowering and inaccurate.” (http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/8-guidelines-for-choosing-effective-beliefs/)

Prejudice-based beliefs answer resounding NOs to most (if not all) of the criteria, so you’d do yourself some good by dropping them. If you’d like to change your beliefs, you’ll find some resources on the same website, aside from probably others on the internet. Here are two good articles:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/installing-empowering-beliefs/
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/08/empowering-beliefs/

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

Well there are some types of people I really just don’t like.

Let’s face it, some people are inherently unlikable

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@shaniquaaa, no it doesn’t. My dad had a saying that I don’t feel like repeating, but it basically stated that all races can carry ANY attributes that you may only seem to perceive in one race. The only way to be truly racist would be to dislike:

-The biological pigment of one’s skin
-Various health risks and rewards, depending on, again, biology
-Various aesthetics, such as hair color/texture and frequency of other things like eye color and build

Beyond that, you hate a behavior or a culture. And if you hate EITHER of those two things, you hate more than one race GUARANTEED.

So yeah…racism is a misappropriated term. @rickvonstar

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Ramistotle (76) (@mcr513) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar
I am not exactly prejudiced, but I do have expectations of negative behavior for certain kinds of people based on my experience with them. I do my best to ignore my assumptions and let them prove me wrong, but sometimes, I’m let down.

@shaniquaaa,
IMO, yes to at least some degree.

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Anonymous (194) (@) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

If you think that being a certain race means anything behaviorally, then you can label it racism, but really you’re just unintelligent. Like Jetplane said, it’s a matter of biology, and if you want to discriminate against someone based on biological differences then it must be very sad to be you. But most behavioral traits, that’s nurture not nature.

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@smalls, certain people of certain races belong to cultures I don’t like, hence me not liking them. Their race is usually directly related to their cultures.

@mcr513, Yes, I always think, “prove me wrong just this one time”…but it never happens.

@shaniquaaa, If you aren’t biased towards people, how can you even have opinions about society.

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Anonymous (194) (@) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, again though, that’s the culture, not the race. Your race does not automatically place you into a certain culture, your upbringing does, it’s nurture not nature. I grew up in a predominantly white city, we had 2 people at my school who were not Caucasian, but if you were blind you would have never known they were any different from anyone else in my town. My roommate of 3 years in the Marines was African American, but he didn’t fall into any of the ‘typical’ African American stereotypes. It’s fine to not care for certain aspects of some cultures I guess, although even that seems pointless, but to think that someone’s race means anything beyond their biological makeup is ignorant.

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LeftyLefty (3) (@leftylefty) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, I’m honest enough to kind of concur with you to a certain extent. But if you actually give individuals a chance to prove you wrong, I don’t think you qualify as a racist.

I do dislike certain attributes (not physical ones) of certain groups, but I also have a couple of friends from those groups, and I like my friends equally regardless of their backgrounds.

I have a friend who hates the culture and the people of my background, but he also affirms I’m not like them. Does that kind of describe how you feel?

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@smalls, “Your race does not automatically place you into a certain culture, your upbringing does, it’s nurture not nature”

usually it does, and the upbringing that is associated with certain cultures is usually associated with that race.

I’m just drawing a correlation that seems to make sense in reality.

@leftylefty, So maybe the term I’m looking for is “culturist”…I could care less about the color of someone’s skin.

As a matter of fact, I’d say I’m pretty anti-culture. Why would someone live his life off some made up social construct? sounds lazy too me

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@smalls, My best friends growing up were not white and they didn’t fit stereotypes. I don’t think I’m ignorant. I would argue to think that someone’s race doesn’t mean anything beyond their biological makeup is actually more ignorant. It can mean a whole lot because it usually implies other things like culture and upbringing.

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, See, even saying “upbringing associated with certain cultures is usually associated with that race” is another form of culture/race confusion. Your belief that some races are of a certain culture proves that THEY are racist. If you seem to find a correlation between one’s race and one’s practices, it’s because THEY are letting the race effect their practices, being racist themselves.

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

This is still you disliking their culture over their race, but also combined with their willingness to be racist

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

Also I want to bring up the point that I’m not just prejudice towards certain racial cultures.

I’m also really prejudice towards far end liberals and conservatives, and their respective cultures.

Also religion, I’m really prejudiced towards certain religious cultures, mainly western religions like christianity

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@lytning91, seems true to me, as if many people just go along with their given race-culture for no better reason because “that’s they way they were raised”

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, if this is what you mean when you claim to be racist, at least I can support you more. I completely am against people who are not willing to look beyond what they were told and taught. The racism practices by people and the cultures they choose for themselves are just that: choices. When they choose to act in ignorance, you can just as easily choose to do the same.

OR, you can choose to be bigger than that, and actually do something to progress the cause beyond its standstill.

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LeftyLefty (3) (@leftylefty) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, In a social context, “race” is always loosely used to describe more of physical attributes than anything else. This is why most of politically correct people get worked up with anything that implies racism.

I don’t think you are a racist at all. And let me clear something out. I am of so called visible minority, former immigrant.

My opinion is that the support for multiculturalism overpowered the individualism in many ways over the years to enforce everyone to accept the multiculturalism whether you like it or not.

If each and every cultural group should be accepted and celebrated, then so should the culture of the hosting nation, instead of at the cost of the hosting nations identity.

It’s oxymoronic that the host country gives the new comers rights to feel at home while making its citizens feel like they can’t even just talk to their neighbours. Not everyone who feels safer in their own existing environment, say a patriotic American in the US as an example, is necessarily a racist.

On the other hand, there are immigrants who do make an effort to adapt and contribute. So I just hope you will keep giving individuals a chance to prove you wrong.

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R.V. Star (151) (@rickvonstar) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@lytning91, I really don’t see any hope for this situation though, because as much as I’d like to live in a world were we all love each other for the people we are, I think it’s the human condition to discriminate between groups of people. People like to talk about how they are above all the ego drama and culture conflict but I think any who says they don’t judge someone based on their culture is just lying to themselves.

Or maybe there are people who just don’t have opinions about people and just live a vacuous existence devoid of any value judgments

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@rickvonstar, We all judge others, but I try to judge someone based off of their personal beliefs. People are going to always come away from their culture with some sort of bias that, if not seen in other cultures, will result in their disinterest in that different culture.

If you are going to hate something, hate the culture…discriminate against the people who are willing to subscribe 100% to something blindly, but never just write someone off over a statistic YOU made up about the likelihood that they are one of those two hate-able types of people

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Netto Germanicus (64) (@netto) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

Having been raised in a household with diff. races, cultures and also in two diff. countries I noticed that it is the same thing but diff. day. All to often a race/culture generalizes and I have gotten prejudice treatment from both sides, even from my own family. I try and judge based on the individual since we are all a culmination of our past experiences we are not all the same. Though being a hybrid of these cultures I tend to find myself gravitating towards persons with the same situation, though not the same mix of races. I don’t even identify myself with a nationality, nationalism is just a tool for political gain. Faux identities for faux lines and a piece of cloth(flag). But I am guilty of religious prejudice, I have a very hard time with something so dogmatic that has spread so much death and greed in the name of a god. Prejudice is something that is very pointless I feel, you don’t get the chance to experience life in all it’s grandeur.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

People have freedom of speech and the freedom to believe whatever the hell they want, I have no problem with racial slurs, I see it as an expression of what is great about our culture, not belittling others but the fact we can say whatever the hell we want, or should be able to, and not have any consequences for it. So when someone is saying racist shit, that is their right, but as far as violence, be it a racist person bashing a target the target bashing a racist, it becomes unacceptable because in reality: all that shit is petty, petty to be racist and petty to be bothered by a racist, because what is the racist? The racist just proves themselves petty in their behaviour.
Does a seven year old merit your wrath for being childish? No, that is what a child is. You know a child is immature by their appearance, you know a racist is immature by their words and deeds, what is the difference? Only appearance.
But I get it, there are common cultural attributes to certain groups within society, often annoying traits. But I once heard a theorist tell a story about a tribe in the Amazon, he said he was talking to a member of the tribe and said “Does it ever bother you that you have 5 shrunken heads?” and the tribesman said “Yes, my brother has 20”
These are accepted values, completely artificial but what we are conditioned to accept. If a woman does not shave her under arms, we freak out but just 100 years ago we would have freaked out if a woman did shave her under arms. But cultural trends take over night, one year shaving under arms was unheard of, the next it was common practice.
Why is masterbating in public unacceptable? Can you consider that with a degree of objectivity?

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

I think racism, like sexism, homophobia, religious prejudices, etc. are simply the result of the power elite trying to divide the masses against themselves by getting them hung up on petty differences, further weakening themselves while the elite simply crush everybody equally. Just look at how polarized people are getting over the gay marriage issue, taking up everyone’s energy and anger and redirecting it against each other instead of focusing it on the Wall Street bankers and CEO’s who fucked everybody. It’s the old divide and conquer tactic. No war but class war!

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Alicia Lee (146) (@aliwine) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

My only prejudice is when people come from other countries that are usually crowded and don’t uphold many traffic laws then are given their licences after doing a simple road test where they are trying to do good but then don’t try that hard when they really drive. I guess that applies for people from anywhere though… So I “hate” all stupid drivers then. *shakes fist*

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Alicia Lee (146) (@aliwine) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

And I also dislike people who don’t vote- or vote conservative.

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