Bipolar

Rose (@roseara) 8 years, 1 month ago

Does anybody, with any kind of experience, have any advice to offer?

Thanks.

October 20, 2013 at 6:46 am
Anonymous (46) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I have experienced people with bipolar named diagnoses, but it really depends on what type of level you are experiencing these ideas.

Can you elaborate ? cause most often the best approach is addressing these issues but moreover differentiate it and get to know the triggers, work with them and give yourself a prospor vision. learn your circle,- get to know which moments trigger them, write them down and learn to make bridges around, over them. @roseara,

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@roseara, A good medication is Risperdal Consta, consult your physician.

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

the medical labelling of normal human emotions

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Rose (30) (@roseara) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@spiraltouch, I’m not in a particulatly manic or depressive state at the moment. It’s more towards the ‘stable’ period. Although. Most days it takes me hours simply to calm my mind down because it’s racing towards six different directions at once, and also, I cry at least once every day. It’s so goddamned exhausting! The problem is, I never feel like myself, it’s as though I just switch identities like 3 times a day.

It’s just that, I’ve lost all goddamned desire to really do anything. It feels like this handicap that is just waiting for me, always looming. It comes and takes so much from you, and leaves you thinking that you have to rebuild your home all over again. I’m never not aware that I have no control. For people who have been awakened, it’s liberating, but… A lot of the time, I feel hopeless, like I can’t ‘really’ do anything, because… I can’t even think clearly.

I don’t have a specific question, I guess. Simply seeking advice.


@fucksake
, as much as I’d love to say that this shit doesn’t exist and it’s simply a result of people attempting to control the mind of those who ‘are different’, by making them believe theu have a ‘disorder’ it’s not true. It’s too much of a coincidence that a series of ‘symptoms’ accompany different states. If you’re feeling high, does stealing also suddenly seem reasonable to you? Rage? Incredibly high sex drive? You lose your memory! You have no sense of time, as in, you simply cannot even remember last night, and the morning and the afternoon seem like 2 different days? All at once? Do you have trouble keeping a job throughout your life? Do you have periods where, suddenly, you want to die everyday? It exists. There’s a reason for it, I’m sure of it. We dont understand it yet, but something happens in the mind, no doubt. I wasn’t born with it. I developed it.

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Jay (87) (@jaygran7) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

It really depends on the individual with a diagnosis like biopolar. I’d been diagnosed with this in the past and put onto medications for it, but after going through worse lows and highs because of the medications and ‘treatment’ I finally came to a point where I tried some “alternative” treatments like diet, excercise, sleep, meditation, prayer.

I’d try to look outside the western paradigm of sickness and look at the condition from a more holistic perspective first.

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Rose (30) (@roseara) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@jaygran7 How are you doing now?

Yeah, it is a spiritual thing, I know it. Have you seen the ‘bipolar or waking up’ videos in YouTube?

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Rose (30) (@roseara) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@trek79, I’m not taking meds

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Scarlet Wall-flower (14) (@stick2skript) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

RISPERIDOL IS [email protected], i wanna fucking kill my self.

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Mark (16) (@mfowler73) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@roseara, I have bipolar and after trying ten different medications and hours of therapy I can honestly say yoga and meditating are the only thing that has helped me. Turning inward you realize how many destructive thoughts you have and simply acknowledging them can make a huge difference (It doesn’t need to be a spiritual experience if you don’t want it to be). Sleep however is the most important aspect in managing bipolar. If I don’t consistently sleep I become delusional and from that state it is much more difficult to maintain yourself. Overall I would say having bipolar is a wonderful gift despite how terrible it can be. The highs are wonderful and I see beauty in things I never would have before, and the lows are poetic and make way for even more beautiful moments.

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Scarlet Wall-flower (14) (@stick2skript) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Dont take it. You miss one dose and you want to kill everything. And you halusinate (if you have my disorder) the craziest shit. Its like your mind falls out. And you get so sad and pissedoff you want to take all your pills and drop.

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@roseara, does stealing also suddenly seem reasonable to you?
Rage? Incredibly high sex drive? You lose your memory! You have no sense of time, as in, you simply cannot even remember last night, and the morning and the afternoon seem like 2 different days? All at once? Do you have trouble keeping a job throughout your life? Do you have periods where, suddenly, you want to die everyday?

those are all very common human traits. i personally know many people who steal , frequently rage at things, have high sex drive, lose memory, have trouble keeping jobs, and often think they are better off dead, Are they all bipolar ? throw meds at them and go through “counselling” , whilst another braindead monkey lets you talk at them just so they can tell you , youre focusing on “bad” things in the past and future?

but it doesnt take a genius to figure out this isnt some sort of worm that drilled its way into your brain , or a disease you caught. this is simple though processes that you choose to focus on .

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

furthermore , i believe people WANT to believe they have these so called “mental illnesses” . it alleviates responsibility to deal with your own thoughts, and gives you an excuse to be miserable or not in control . it is a cop out. in the most literal sense.

but whatever, personally if i could get a magic pill from the doc that would make me feel happy all the time , id be on that shit, but everything has its ups and downs , and that pills can just fuck you up even more.

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Rose (30) (@roseara) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@fucksake,Man, it’s responses like yours which always make me wish I never said an honest word. I’m not trying to put you down or repeat to you what you (probably) already know, but there are some things people think they understand, but really don’t, and there are things people can’t understand. With this, it goes under both categories, but the first irks me more. My thoughts earlier probably weren’t of a nature too different to yours at the moment, but it came so hard one time that I couldn’t deny it to myself anymore. I would like to sit here and explain what happens in wonderful depth, but I know my efforts would be fruitless.

Anyhow, I feel like I’ve already said too much.

By the way, I’m speaking only for myself.

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

there are no mental disorders. period.

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LeWiZa (18) (@zpeialel) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@roseara

If you post on this site you have to be willing to accept that you will get a variety of answers. Some you may not like hearing, but that’s the beauty of it. Learning to deal with those will probably help you out too, specially the answers that are in person and not across a computer screen. I’m not commenting as to whether it is truly a disorder or not, but I believe you may want to see those types of comments as what they are. Someone else’s opinion, you can pick it apart, evaluate it (subjectively unfortunately, if you can be completely objective let me know cause as far as I’m aware it ain’t possible unless you’re the universe observing itself or some shit but even then thats questionable as to objectivity, anyways sidetracked). Abstract some value from it, and from every experience that you may have with this thing and see how that goes. Every time you have an episode or whatever it is try thinking” “What is it that I could be learning from this?”, if it feels like you have different personalities you could get some interesting insights. Try recording them as well and organize it some way so you can tell which “identity” or whatever is present.

Anyways, just my opinion, do what you want with it. I don’t care, your problem not mine.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@roseara, read dbt and cbt techniques used by therapists and slowly incorporate most relevant or helpful ones into your daily life. Journal and revisit frequently because it helps to bring you whole. Use mania for all of its pro’s, and ride out the depressive episodes giving yourself self compassion as much as you can. Thats my two cents.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@fucksake, well shit, you obviously have never lived with someone with a serious mental illness and can’t imagine what can happen. Please educate yourself about human psychology before advising people this stuff. Yes, mental illnesses are DEFINITELY over diagnosed and way over medicated, but it doesn’t make some cases totally normal behavior. The reason its called that is because it interferes with life, preventing someone from living their life fully and possibly behave dangerously especially if they experience psychosis during more severe stages. Putting a label on behaviors at least helps the person begin to recognize/ understand what underlying overwhelming emotions could be causing them to do what they do and therefore learn to handle themselves so they can optimize their life. Mental illnesses are called that because they are damaging. I do agree with your points fully for probably most of the cases happening in american psychiantry but let’s not umbrella everything into a regular behavior clusterfuck. There’s nothing regular about it, it is an adopted behavioral mechanism one needs to try to work out of to have a full fulfilling life and not hurt themselves and others.

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saccade (0) (@saccade) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Dear ‘fucksake’ I think you are one of those people who WANT to believe that everything is black and white, ‘cows go moo’. We are all free to choose. ‘just say no!’ or ‘yes to life!’. Do you by any probably chance reside along the Bible belt? As surplus to so-called bipolar disorder, I imagine your ‘cop out’ box of tricks would also include drug addicts, the homeless, street walkers etc who collectively CHOOSE to stay where they are versus simply actioning change by focusing on their thought processes. The good ole ‘pulling themselves up by their shoelaces’ ethos. I would also take it that you are in favour of cutting the national social welfare budget? Future headline “FUCKSAKE CUTS OUT THE COP-OUTS’ (photo opportunity – in John Wayne costume wielding your campaign symbol – a pen-knife – background choir of Boy Scouts {women are irrational}). Banish ‘free handouts’ (buy more guns instead for the much needed strong hand of the military), rehab centres (‘just say no’), counseling (let them jump) for the abused (it was their choice to stay in the relationship and/or get over it for fucksake!) or PTSD sufferers (stop focusing on the past!). And for bonus points on Fucksake’s thought control barometer, free-thinking citizens should melt their medicine cabinets with the full range of contents from headache, nausea, diarrhea panaceas to morphine for the dying (just think heavenly thoughts). Physical pain or ills of any kind are equally akin to the nature of life – coming/ going – up and down – good days and bad days .. Or in your rule of thumb are the latter legitimate reasons for pills that make you “happier” … or at least more comfortable? The precept for your preacher-man delivery is obviously that bipolarism is a SIMPLE (your word popping up again) case of hypochondria. Do you really BELIEVE that your personally (wow! how unique you are!) knowing many people who x and y and just because they x and y obviously doesn’t make them all bipolar … blah-blah … is significant enough a variable in proving a point? That’s like saying I personally know lots of people who fell down the stairs but didn’t break a leg or I personally know lots of people who like to eat noodles but that doesn’t make them Chinese. In light of your overwhelming evidence ‘it doesn’t take a genius’ to recognise the phenomenon here, of an un-evolved or ‘simple’ brain (or ‘braindead monkey’ as you so eloquently put it – vocabulary that sparkles with sheer brilliance). To be continued ….

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I’m getting real tired of this site being really naive about human psychology and its advances, piling everything into “just meditate” pile. Years ago, molesting and raping children was considered harmless but thanks to psychology that changed. We can all become educated about normal NATURAL patterns of human behavior and live a better life while helping others do the same. Yes, take all these personality disorders as theories and with a grain of salt… but some mental illnesses are a serious matter to be understood or at least cautioned about. This makes society better. If you know how to recognize signs, you can put the puzzle together and see what kind of animal it is and what to feed it, not just throw the same cat food at everyone with the idea that it will work. Sorry I can’t explain it better. I come from a third world country where mental illnesses aren’t recognized and a lot of families stay with abuse thinking that their sociopath will one day feel bad for maliciously manipulating their toddlers if they just love him enough. I can’t tell you how useful it is to have knowledge of what you are dealing with. It is not about being inhumane or stereotyping everyone with an illness when its normal behavior – it is about learning what makes up the human mind and what can go wrong and how to go about helping that wrong get straightened out. Medication or therapists are just offerings of how to deal with it if you want someone else to do the work. Let’s not trash everything just because it is the same subject matter.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I mean, without understanding, we;ll be back at zero as a society – if you’re acting out way beyond boundaries, you must be possessed by demons and need to be beaten or whatever unhelpful and detrimental methods employed. There is no one key to fix everyone’s problems, that’s why we study behavior and try to see which key might be the most helpful to a person. Think about it. If a kid is poking holes in your cat with a knife and doesn’t understand what the big deal is about killing a couple of cats – that’s possible sociopathy so don’t leave your toddler unsupervised around said child because enough sleep and fresh water won’t change the physical patterns in that brain. You recognize the signs, take helpful action. That’s what it is for. To give behavior a language and terminology so it could be communicated to help people. Otherwise, we’d still be molesting children because it’s their fault for not saying no, people would fall for sect leaders more frequently due to not recognizing their clear manipulation patterns, beating your kids on the face and telling them they are worthless shit daily would be fine because your husband does it and told you it is fine, etc. I am not saying that everyone needs to see a shrink and drink prozac, no (infact i am against medications since it hasn’t been studied enough at all and has slim to none chances of being effective, and some shrinks are actually master psychopath manipulators out to mess with your head and take your money). I am for the simple fact that knowledge is power. So let’s learn about shit that is proposed, and like everything else in life – remain somewhat skeptical but do learn about it. I studied forensic psychology and I believe that it is helpful to know what you are dealing with. Extremely helpful. Please think about it. This new agey stuff is nice and all, but it is not magic potion that can rewire a traumatized brain in a few weeks. It is frequently effective, but you have to know when it, why, how, and if it won’t do shit in certain cases. It is dangerous not to, and again, naive.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

now that i’ve read fucksake’s psychology-related comments on other posts, I probably just wasted energy, so nevermind. Well, I hope someone more thoughtful will find my broken english rant somewhat useful.

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@saccade,

1) You are the one who seems to see things in black and white

2) I am not religious in any way , or hold any political views

3) Please use paragraphs, you’re lucky i even read your wall of text

4) Drug addicts, homeless? Did you forget starving african children as well ? Whats your point ? Yeah life doesnt “work out” for everyone, i respect drug addicts shameless pursuit of pleasure , way more than people who look to the doctor for their own release from negative thought patterns

5) All your precious “psychology” has done is convince others that they are truly sick. Maybe you should look at some sociology instead of believing in “diagnosis” that is based on unquantifiable results, and medication that youll be complaining about even more than the problem.

Of course you will never want to observe your thoughts and actions ! that would take too much willpower and effort ! Then proceed to insult everyone that tells you theres nothing medically wrong with you.

” B-b-but the psychologists said so!!”

you’re probably the sort of person that believes in Seasonal affective disorder .

You know how they find out if you have these mental illnesses ? you fill out a fucking check list ! rofl ! go there on a bad day and fill out the check list… congratulations … now you have an ” illness” , for life.

but i digress, throw insults at me some more, when i have done nothing but try to help you more than the money hoarding , greedy , lying , “mental illness” industry ever will.

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@paintedbeings, “Think about it. If a kid is poking holes in your cat with a knife and doesn’t understand what the big deal is about killing a couple of cats – that’s possible sociopathy so don’t leave your toddler unsupervised around said child because enough sleep and fresh water won’t change the physical patterns in that brain.”

I used to kill animals as a child, or injure them if they were someones pets. But now i do not injure animals, if i see a spider in my room , i take it outside and let it live. I make an effort to not step on snails or even ants.

So tell me , am i a sociopath ?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@trek79, What works for you can be really bad for someone else.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@martijn, True, it depends on the person and the [email protected], I was on Risperdal and it was shit, then I was prescribed Risperdal Consta, big [email protected], Somethings simply cannot be solved philosophically, maybe you can just change your lifestyle in certain ways and get a result but I don’t know what changes you would have to make or even if they would work.

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