Black Hole in the Pupil

Joseph (@warriors41) 10 years ago

You know how they say there’s a black hole in every galaxy? What if there’s a super tiny black hole in every creatures eyes?

January 8, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years ago ago

A bubble has to be a sphere. It has to be circular. You can’t have square bubbles unless you’re drunk at the circus with an orphaned elephant lol Pink Elephants!
Anyways, when you want to explain infinity you need to use the circle. if you put a circle inside a circle, it could just keep going and going forever. However a bubble has an edge. Sometimes called the event horizon I think…
Now, I think my point is that physicists believe there is missing mass in the universe. That there’s no way everything around us can move through “empty” space in the physical way that it does. There must be more stuff in between everything that’s causing galaxies to stay in the whirl arm shape. What I am proposing is not exactly that there is tiny tiny particles in space, but rather space is made of quantities of bubbles. These bubbles are fractal (just like the circle).
The reason a galaxy stays in it’s shape so long but also rotates can be explain when you account for the “mass” or in my case, the bubble that is created around all the stars. The spiral galaxy is actually like a spinning lens. ()
I’m not too sure about my current understand to say any more, i’m still trying to learn through observation, but does this make sense to everyone?

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years ago ago

A bubble has to be a sphere. It has to be circular. You can’t have square bubbles unless you’re drunk at the circus with an orphaned elephant lol Pink Elephants!
Anyways, when you want to explain infinity you need to use the circle. if you put a circle inside a circle, it could just keep going and going forever. However a bubble has an edge. Sometimes called the event horizon I think…
Now, I think my point is that physicists believe there is missing mass in the universe. That there’s no way everything around us can move through “empty” space in the physical way that it does. There must be more stuff in between everything that’s causing galaxies to stay in the whirl arm shape. What I am proposing is not exactly that there is tiny tiny particles in space, but rather space is made of quantities of bubbles. These bubbles are fractal (just like the circle).
The reason a galaxy stays in it’s shape so long but also rotates can be explain when you account for the “mass” or in my case, the bubble that is created around all the stars. The spiral galaxy is actually like a spinning lens. ()
I’m not too sure about my current understand to say any more, i’m still trying to learn through observation, but does this make sense to everyone?

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

http://yourhotnews.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/46392401-small.jpg

Some people call the edge of the bubble a surface. What could keep going and going forever? I don’t get how a circle can be more infinite than a square. An event horizon is the point of no return when talking about a black hole.

Gravity plus the rotation of the galaxy is helping the galaxies to keep its flat disk shape. Try this experiment at home…get a big flat piece of cardboard and put a pile of sand on it, now spin the cardboard, the sand will all spread out. Gravity is holding the stars in place and stopping them from being flung out in to space.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Gravity when spun remains constant. Momentum is conserved. Gravity exists on all levels to giant quasars to human beings to electrons.
http://www.whatsondalian.com/ent_images/dark-molecular-cloud_a42e86c8591b376e.jpg
This is Barnard 68, a dark molecular cloud. It’s basically a clump of dust so dark and cold that light cannot pass through. I realized it kind of has the same shape as the bubble in your picture.

A Circle would be more… pure or something. It’s the egg. The chicken egg is dinosaur. Human eggs are round like fish. Spherical.

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stonedragon (143) (@stonedragon21) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

this discussion is so great.it has a good vibe to it. mindboggling vibe.
it deserves to come up to the top again on the list. .. i love the photo of the bubble and that other one of joseph. so inspiring to me all this. no time to read, im PAINTING!

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

haha stonedragon awesome. If possible i’m sure we would love to see your paintings (I would).

I recently watched the movie Contact. Pay attention to the beginning scene (the whole thing), pay attention to the eyes (her at the end). Awesome movie.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Haven’t read all of the comments yet but right now it’s reminding me of my theory that this universe is simply just one organ in an organ system, or one cell in an organ, etc.

I had this thought the other day that we, and everything on earth are a projection of the universe. Seems to make some sense with what people have been posting around here. It’s early though and I haven’t developed this enough, but I wanted to get it out. I’ll come back later to it.

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stonedragon (143) (@stonedragon21) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

sounds good eric. go deeply into it and let us know your findings. we are like scientists all of us, and explorers and we need to report back to base each time on different levels . soon the HEthens will have figured out all of the most essential questions.

joseph, yes i want to post my latest knot paintings up. i did a torus in spectrum and now the one im working on is another spectrum symettrical knot , with black background with 7 crossings. this seems to be my latest obsession.
loosening the knots that tie us… it also seems like how energy flows around in a circuit.
i need to figure out how to put my photos up somehow.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

“And the stars are projectors yeah, projecting our lives down to this planet earth. And the stars are projectors yeah, projecting our minds down to this planet earth.”

@Sea Monkey, a circle can be more infinite than a square because a square can only have 4 sides, where a circle has infinite sides. You can draw infinite squares in a circle but not infinite circles in a square.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@Circles have 2 sides. The inside and the outside. Lol, reminds me of the joke… Which side of the chicken has the most feathers? The outside.

Maybe sides are not an attribute of a circle…it’s like asking for the weight of a megabyte, the length of a colour, the height of your memory. It just can’t be done.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@Seakmonkey, but sides ARE the biggest attribute of a circle. Thats how you get a curve like that. You can also use circles to show that infinities are not always equal to each other. If you have one circle, and fill it with infinite lines so thats its completely shaded in, and then draw another bigger circle around the first. Extend all those lines you previously drew to the 2nd circle, and gaps show up. But you used infinite lines. So the infinity in the larger circle is bigger than the infinity in the smaller circle. The center of the circle exists only in relation to the circumference, and vice versa. Without circles, how would we know about pi either? :)
It’s hard to talk circles without talking circles. lol

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Haha It feels like we are going round in circles.

Actually, if you are talking about a concept, a circle the shape that is perfectly round. If you talk about a drawing, its a line of ink/pencil/paint. If you are talking about a ring, its a peice of metal shaped in a circle.

Yes it is infinite if you draw lines in it, same thing applies to an oval, but u can also fill them up with a blob of paint. but yeah, i can see how you mean it is infinite if you look at it that way. A square is also infinite if you get your finger and trace around it, it will never stop.

If you look around you, you will see that everything has a curve to it, this makes everything ‘infinite’

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Only read the title and the first comment. Anyone who knows anything about physics will tell you this is impossible and that by entertaining this notion you’re talking about some philosophical hippy bullshit, not science. Don’t want to shit on anyone’s parade, but there are no black holes in our pupils.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

General Tits, You gotta read the whole thing, one might think there is a Troll among us.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

I like hippie stuff. When the human organizes ideas like this and comes together to try to better explain our existence, it makes me feel more hopeful. Like we’re joining together and sharing. It makes me feel less alone in my quest.

Birds of a feather flock together.

How many of you who’ve read the whole thing have just opened their eyes and looked. Look at your universe. Try to look from behind your eyeballs. It seems to me the universe knows when i’m looking, because the gravitational lensing that’s occurring from my eyes slightly pulls and alters what is being looked at. If you look at an apple tree, I propose it will be able to sense the gravity and light of your eye, realize it is being observed, and then change it’s behaviour accordingly. It could be that it would grow better apples.

This has been proven with human beings in a work environment. We work better when we know we’re being watched. If we’re not being observed, our wave function is free to collapse and explore any and all possible things, and work takes much longer. Like little tubes of spiraling light vortexing into our minds, and connecting with consciousness. Reality is a projection of the mind.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

I like your ideas, Joseph. Although I don’t agree with some of your points, it makes me think. eg. ” If you look at an apple tree, I propose it will be able to sense the gravity and light of your eye, realize it is being observed, and then change it’s behaviour accordingly. It could be that it would grow better apples.” Does this mean if 2 people who each have an apple tree in their back yard and one of them is blind, would the apple tree of the blind person not grow as good as the other tree if all other things are equal?

Here is another explanation for humans being watched while working…
Humans have brains, we always want to show off to our friends, family, co-workers, managers etc. we avoid doing illegal and embarrassing things when we know we are being watched. I actually work better when I am alone without anyone watching me over my shoulders.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.higherintellect.info/texts/other/crystalinks/siriusdna.gif

Black holes suck in matter and in theory create a universe. Our pupils “suck in” light and then (with the help of our brains) create our visual universe.
^Not related to the picture by the way^

Edit: @Tits, I would not count this as hippy bullshit at all.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Black holes suck in matter and in theory create a universe. Our pupils “suck in” light and then (with the help of our brains) create our universe.

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@ Eric- I’m glad you have “suck in” in quotations, because they don’t. Even if the similarity you showed between pupils and black holes was correct, that’s like me saying cats eat food and humans eat food, so maybe there is a person inside of every cat.
Quick piece of anatomy/ physics: A pupil is a hole (aka not matter). A black hole is a condensed mass (aka a shit ton of matter). Not matter does not equal matter.
I don’t mean this in a demeaning way and without bringing up the whole “you can learn as much about science as real scientists with the internet” discussion, does anyone here have a degree in physics, or any other science for that matter?

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@Tits, Alright, you won.

And you’re right, none of us do have a degree in physics, at least that I am aware of. Doesn’t mean we can’t talk about this sort of stuff though. I find it to be interesting.

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@ Eric- It’s not that I’m against discussions of this sort, it’s just that a lot of people try to sneak in little half truths about physics and quotes from famous scientists to back up their ideas. On this level it’s not physics, it’s philosophy. With that said there is nothing wrong with philosophy, and I will stop ruining the fun by talking shit in this thread.

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

I think this discussion was birthed because nature repeats itself a lot. I’ve studied biology, so my example relates to that: anatomical structures that evolve completely separately of each other perform the same function, (ex. mollusc eyes and mammal eyes, or butterfly wings and bat wings) and structures similar in evolutionary origin perform different functions, for example (humans have fingers, thumbs and toes, horses have hooves). Physics principles are the same way… of course there are similarities and familiar repetitions in the ways black holes and eyeballs work: the similarity is the nature of light, and the lens effect, not the black hole.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@Elise. you look like Tomb Raider.

If there are aliens on other planets (I’m pretty sure there are), I wonder if nature for them would solve problems the same way things are solved here on earth ei. wings for flying, fins for swimming, eyes with black holes in the centre for seeing etc.

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

I have often wondered that myself, Sea Monkey.
Does nature on other planets in other worlds work the same way as it does here? Evolution is pretty b’dass. Could it have different rules in a different environment? I have a hard time imagining any circumstance in which it would. But that’s probably a limitation of my imagination. Our evolution is based on genetics. What if organisms develop in other worlds with a system completely different than ours, not including anything like genes and chromosomes? maybe this is a start of a new discussion. Or maybe it’s just too far out to be a new discussion. lol

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

P.S, is it cool to look like Tomb Raider? if so, thank you! :) lolol

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