Black Hole in the Pupil

Joseph (@warriors41) 10 years, 8 months ago

You know how they say there’s a black hole in every galaxy? What if there’s a super tiny black hole in every creatures eyes?

January 8, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

Yes, it is philosophy.


@SeaMonkey
Do not assume that because a person has no eyes, that they cannot see. but yes, in a perfect world if you had two trees and showed one of them attention (by looking at them in this case) and the other not, you would notice a difference. Maybe looking at them makes them worse.
C’est un peu comme une dualité qu’on n’est pas capable d’expliquer correctement. De toute facon, l’oeil est une chose qui me perplexe. Sans l’oeil, toute hallucinogènes seront inutile. Justement, je trouve la difficulté a croire que ma vision est la vrai forme de mon environnement. Il me semble comme la vision humaine normal voit seulement une très petite fraction de la réalité. J’aime penser que c’est à cause d’un trou noir, qui attire la lumiere comme un long tube pliant dans une espace infinite. J’aime montrer au monde que nous faisons partie de notre environnement. Nous sommes tous la nature.

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

You are so right joseph! I think about this almost daily; we rely on our eyes far too much when trying to understand our reality. Have you ever read “a wrinkle in time” by madeleine L’engle?

Meg’s encounter with Aunt beast, (an wise old eyeless creature from a grey foggy planet community) illustrates this beautifully. It’s what I always think of.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

Never heard of it before, sounds interesting.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

@Joseph,

Hang on, you said “GRAVITATIONAL LENSING that’s occurring from my EYES slightly pulls and alters what is being looked at. If you LOOK at an apple tree, I propose it will be able to sense the GRAVITY and LIGHT of your EYE” I emphasised some words just to point out that we are talking about the eyes.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

A black hole has an extremely strong gravitational pull. It isn’t made of nothing. It’s not an empty space, like a pupil is.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

@ Elise, good thing

https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Eug&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=lara+croft+sun+glasses&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=950&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=IFRhT_GpCdCwiQevzJnHCA#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=9FM&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=tomb+raider&oq=tomb+raider&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=12&gs_upl=0l0l1l35141l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.12…0l0l1l35141l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0.llsin&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d03171968d6bad7d&biw=1054&bih=736

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

Yayy I’m sexYY!!!! Also, if you feel so inclined, DO NOT watch the wrinkle in time movie. It sucks balls.

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Lexi (157) (@lexi) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

I was just telling a friend about this thread the other day, and this morning it appeared back on the front page! Weird :)

Interesting, though. I need to go back and re-read everything.

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EliseTheAstronaut (23) (@elisetheastronaut) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

(P.S. sorry for the side convo to all of you who are actually continuing this intelligent conversation. I bid thee adieu from this thread.)

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Nikola Atanasovski (12) (@nikola) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

I really like the idea of the fractal theory, but I think we as humans see meaning where there is meant to be none. Sure we have pupils, sure the universe absorbs light much in the way that our pupils do, and refracts it as well. But the pupil and black holes act very differently. Whereas our pupil acts as a sort of gateway into out eyes and the vision centre of a brain, a black hole absorbs ALL light. Basically I’m trying to say that pupils don’t absorb all light and an example of this is when you can sometimes see your own reflection in someone’s eyes.

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Nikola Atanasovski (12) (@nikola) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

and the idea of a literal hole in the black eye is physically impossible, and i think is best used as a metaphor and thats what this thread was intended to discuss?

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

I actually first thought of it as right in the middle of your pupil, is a tiny speck of nothingness (or black hole) that is slightly more dense, allowing light to pass through clearly, and safely through the double coned shaped of travel through the physical lens of your eye.

Now that I think of it, eyes do have nothingness inside them, everything around them just passes through. Comparing it to this phenomenon that is seen in outer space: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/A_Horseshoe_Einstein_Ring_from_Hubble.JPG

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

@SeaMonkey, What greater day to discuss circles then on Pi day! The concept of pi shows us we can never even know the circumference of something. I was looking up cool facts about pi today, and the 2nd one was, “Most mathematicians agree that its more accurate to say that a circle has infinite corners, than to say it has one curved line. So I suppose in theory, the universe is constantly in an equation of infinity. Is there really a such thing as straight lines anywhere in the Universe? (not counting human creations/concepts)

@Eric
, that picture is cool because the paths of sirus’ make an image of DNA strands.

Now, does it really matter if pupils are literally black holes? No, but we can learn a lot about things through making connections between two unrelated things. Black holes are in a sense information converters, and so are humans. Light is important to the eye, and light is important with black holes.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

I know, I’m sorry if I make a big deal out of all of this. I just find it beautiful and truthful, and actually quite revealing about our selves and our environment, and I want more people to talk and share about it.

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Sea Monkey (2) (@seamonkey) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

@Alex. Happy Pi Day!!!

Seeing a circle as a shape that has infinite corners? It surely must be a mathematical thing because god knows I am no mathematician. When I see a circle, I just see a round shape, I don’t give a second thought to how many angles it might have.

“Now, does it really matter if pupils are literally black holes? No, but we can learn a lot about things through making connections between two unrelated things. Black holes are in a sense information converters, and so are humans. Light is important to the eye, and light is important with black holes.” Exactly! we all come here to share our thoughts, have fun, learn, and exercise our brain. It does not matter who is right or who is wrong. How is light important with black holes again? lol, jk.


@Joseph
, do you have a huge collection of heavenly objects to refer back to? lol the last picture you linked to an example of gravitational lensing. The blue ring is a normal shaped galaxy which has been warped the galaxy in front of it. Just think of those funny mirrors stretching and bending the mirror image of yourself. Sorry for popping your bubble (pun intended :) )

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2577092016_64dc1027a1.jpg

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BrandonXOtaku (1) (@konachan11) 10 years, 5 months ago ago

everything is a creation of consciousness, god is higher consciousness, stop trying to look at god as some sort of external being god is a part of all sentient life because god is the SOURCE of sentient life. no matter how you look at it what we perceive as reality isn’t reality at all what we see with our eyes is only a image of waves flowing into our eyes and hitting a back where the brain forms an image for us to perceive. now here the part most people don’t know: the image we see with our conscious mind is merely 7(+or-2) bits of information out of 2 million bits of information that are flooding our scenes. that’s why we have filters, because if we didn’t have these filters we would go insane there would simply be too much happening for us to handle. so what we see as reality is totally up to us and quantum physics also shows us atoms are not material object but possibility’s the exist in many place at once but once observed they become the possibility the observer chooses. in other words what we see as reality is only one small bit of whats truly around us and we choose our reality’s through our conscious experiences

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BrandonXOtaku (1) (@konachan11) 10 years, 5 months ago ago

@Gerald: just so you know all science is observational and what we know ar “facts” are just the most highly accepted theory at the time and the thing about the scientific immunity is that they have been slow to accept any new theory’s for a long time now. (example: it took them 20 years to accept a human was born with 3 strands of DNA when they have been observing said phenomena for about 20 years.) science has been proven wrong before all theories are are personal ideas of what is “reality.” and to be quite honest reality is subjective to each individual we all create the ideas of what is real and what is fake, what is right or wrong, word meanings, our limitations on what we think we can do, so on and so forth.

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Jaimie (0) (@jaimie) 10 years, 4 months ago ago

I’m not fresh outta class, but isn’t a black hole meant to be under huge pressure for it to exist?

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Jovan (35) (@pantheonzeusamon) 10 years, 3 months ago ago

@, interesting

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Heather (35) (@hhhkelly) 10 years, 3 months ago ago

I find it amazing that somebody else has thought of this. A couple times when I was stoned I was thinking about how amazing eyeballs are. If you look closely (I have blue eyes) so it is more noticeable I believe, you can see the oddest squiggles and patterns. Then I started thinking about the black space, and it seems like it goes on forever, I eventually came to the conclusion that I had 2 mini black holes on my body. thanks for sharing! I don’t feel so crazy or alone afterall.

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iRantThereforeiCan (0) (@alphag33k1791) 10 years, 2 months ago ago

AWESOMEEE

My eyes contain a universe.

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Hi I’m Ben (12) (@cantbe123) 10 years, 2 months ago ago

Ok im not sure how this works. I’m no expert in physics but im pretty sure light can not pass through a black hole. thus making it not black but literally unseeable. In contrary, the eye allows light to pass through the pupil to optical sensors in the back of the eye. It just doesn’t make any sense and this idea should just be used as a metaphor. Another problem that this theory has is the fact that black holes are parts of the universe that have enough gravity to make light stop in its tracks and every galaxy has one because it’s what brings planets and other space rocks together to form a galaxy. does your eyeball have enough gravity to stop light in its tracks. No. There is no arguing this.

CASE CLOSED. Eyes do not contain black holes!

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 10 years, 2 months ago ago

@cantbe123, buzz kill.

Correct, but still…dropping the hammer on my dreams, here. ;)

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

I was thinking about black holes while looking at pictures of spiral galaxies then I thought of cyclones (hurricanes) and what exactly is the “eye of the storm”. I happened upon this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(cyclone)

and I thought it might be interesting to post it here. Hurricanes on earth look a lot like galaxies in the sky. They say there is a black hole inside every galaxy, and an eye in every cyclone. :O

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bahareh (0) (@bahareh) 5 years, 8 months ago ago

I think the pupil look like a black hol,they have same sistem?

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