can you feel it?

Tine (@tine) 8 years, 10 months ago

sit quietly, meditation style, and focus your mind to nothing, then slowly move your focus to your body and let it drift to your heart,

now concentrate,

can you feel it beat?

my focus is horrible atm so i can only hold it on the heart but for a few seconds, but when i do, its quite a powerful sensation, can you do this already, or, what did you experience if tried?

January 31, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Chase (21) (@chaselang19) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, I have been experimenting off and on with meditation for a couple of months now. Some days I can drift pretty far inward, and other times I have a very hard time getting focused. Also I am not entirely sure what the ‘correct’ way to meditate is, even tho I know that is a purely subjective question :/…during a good session of meditating I am able to achieve a slight separation from what feels like my physical body and seem to feel a strange, distant (but at the same time close) buzzing type thing. I also experience this at times when I am in that limbo stage of falling asleep. I can remember feeling this from time to time ever since early childhood. Almost as if Im getting out of my head for a few seconds/minutes. Can you relate to this at all?

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I do this all the time. I call it compassion meditation. I also try to feel my heart, or my core rather, at times during the day when I realize I’m being dominated by thought and pain. I find that the heart is where I turn inside out, outside in. Focusing on the sensation really snaps me out of it.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@chaselang19,

well, my theory is when your body drifts away your mind is drifting into your subconscious, your imagination, and the more i drift and feel nothing the more inward i go, i have yet to crack the barrier between reality and my subconscious, but i feel i am getting very close, i also try to Lucid Dream, someone in another thread suggested thinking the words, ‘I’m awake’ as you drift off, keep this in your mind, and there is a chance you’ll wake up, he says it doesn’t work every time, but when it does, its awesome,

also, here is some instructions on getting to the empty mind state if you are interested,

the following is a summary of one of three parts to Step (1) from Franz Bardon’s, ‘Initiation Into Hermetics’, though this books purpose is to introduce the individual to the idea of magic, i found that the steps described are very practical, including what i am about to share, this is in relation to meditation,

(Mental)

Step (1)
– Sit comfortably and relax the body
– Observe train of though for 5-10 minutes based on ability
– Observe as attentively as possible
( do at beginning of day and end of day )

the point of Step (1) is to sit in your thoughts and become familiar with the intention to do so, thoughts over time will come less chaotically, move on to Step (2) when you can sit for at least ten minutes observing your thoughts without interruption.

Step (2)
– Sit comfortably and relax the body
– Observe only specific groups of thoughts for 5-10 minutes based on ability
– Observe as attentively as possible
( do at beginning of day and end of day )

the point of Step (2) is to build on the mental foundation of Step (1) by starting to filter what you consider, keep distracting thoughts from intruding, learn to hold only what you want to in your mind by focusing on groups of thoughts, such as, only thoughts that make you feel: ‘happy’

Overlap exercise into daily life, use it in the mental transition to and fro work, school, etc, during tasks or projects, learn to hold on to only the thoughts needed, move on to Step (3) when you can sit for at least ten minutes observing your thoughts without interruption.

Step (3)
– Sit comfortably and relax the body
– Observe only one thought for 5-10 minutes based on ability
– Observe as attentively as possible
( do at beginning of day and end of day )

the point of Step (3) is to continue to build on the mental foundation of the first (2) steps by narrowing down what you hold in your mind to one thing, Overlap exercise into daily life, use it in the mental transition to and fro work, school, etc, during tasks or projects, learn to hold on to only the thoughts needed,

move on to Step (4) when you can sit for at least ten minutes observing your thoughts without interruption

Step (4)
– Sit comfortably and relax the body
– Observe no thought for 5-10 minutes based on ability
– Observe as attentively as possible
( do at beginning of day and end of day )

this is the final foundation piece for meditation, once you can clear your mind of all things, consistently, for ten minutes, you are ready to move on to greater and more intricate meditation practices, Overlap exercise into daily life, use it in the mental transition to and fro work, school, etc, during tasks or projects, learn to empty your mind.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@danfontaine,

from what i have felt so far i agree, my first impression was, ‘raw power’, its beat being what keeps us going

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Chase (21) (@chaselang19) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, Thanks man. Very helpful information. Makes sense.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, Your heartbeat is the signature of all creation – an inheritant of the lineage of motion that began with the first disassociation of something from nothingness. That’s how I see it. My heart breathes relativity to the universe and the universe answers back.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, And yes! Exactly. Infinitely draw able upon.
Reflections Eternal. Fractal Intricacies. God I’m losing it. Wait nope here I am.

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