Cancer is a business

 hello (@smortlur51)7 years, 7 months ago

So the other day I was at the gym, and I saw a lady wearing a cancer awareness shirt, and all of a sudden it hit me, how much business and profit is involved in the sickness, and it sort of disgusted me. Nowadays its the thing to do for businesses and products to have ‘pink’ products, where they help donate to breast cancer awareness, and yet half the products are full of things that can actually lead to cancer. If they really want to help why not directly donate to causes that actually help cancer patients or to research. And then there’s the medical side of it, if they really wanted to find a cure for cancer they probably could, but its just too damn profitable selling chemo drugs to patients.

October 25, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@smortlur51, I agree. I know more than one person who reversed their cancer with dietary changes, one of which said their doctor seemed literally disappointed when he saw that it was gone and why.

EFW (57) (@EarthFireWater) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@smortlur51, I absolutely and categorically refuse to give to charity, for this reason.

There’s also the added fact that when you have a socialised healthcare system, such as in the UK, which is charged with aiding a person to stay healthy, including providing the most up to date treatments for cancer, which is paid for directly through taxation of the population, how much money is misappropriated on other things.

The annual uk budget for the NHS in the UK is around £100 bn, the defense budget is £60bn, overseas ‘aid’ costs £9bn. Over seas illegal wars and the managing the social fall out of the populations in the aftermath is more than half of the equivalent health budget.

And when there is a new treatment available, it is politicised in regard to the availability and eligibility of it. Sometimes meaning a treatment is refused based on cost.

The whole system is wrong.

Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Man….when I read the title of this thread, I thought you were gonna go somewhere else with it, because I had a totally different thought.

My thought is – yes, cancer is a business, but in a different way than you speak of.

Cancer is a business in this sense: you watch TV, you see commercials for things like Pizza Hut, McDonald’s, Burger King, Doritos, candy bars, etc. What do all of these things have in common? They cause cancer if eaten often over the course of a long period of time.

And do you think these companies give a fuck? Does the FCC give a fuck? Does the government give a fuck? Does the healthcare industry give a fuck? The answer is a big, fat NO.

In fact, they LOVE it. They WANT you to eat this fucking poison. It makes people fat, sick, and unhealthy over time. Fat, sick, and unhealthy people = profitable. Why? Because if you’re fat, sick, and unhealthy, you’re gonna have to go to the doctor, and when you go to the doctor, you’re gonna have to spend money, and when you spend your money, YAY….ECONOMIC STIMULUS! Because that’s all that they really give a fuck about at the end of the day – more money for them. They don’t give a flying fuck about your health.

So yes, cancer is a business.

ryan34 (24) (@ryan34) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

What concerns me most is something often overlooked. The FDA. The FDA is in bed, for the lack of a better term, with big pharma. corporations. The FDA also makes it extremely tedious for those developing drugs to make them available to patients; in a way it curtails the progress of the production of potentially beneficial drugs.

Anonymous (21) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

There is some good that medical care does, but for the most part the healthcare industry is just a huge capitalist economic engine not unlike the military industrial complex. In the US we spend something like $2.7 trillion annually on healthcare. (As a comparison we only spend $700 billion on defense.) It is a huge business. I’m not saying all of it, but a fair majority of that 2.7 trillion dollars is snake oil, fear mongering, and big business trying to increase profits from year to year. The return on the dollar is becoming less and less. The US spends close to $9000 per year per person on healthcare. The industry employs so many people and the government pays for a large portion of it. It was never intended to be this way, but like the military industrial complex it is a complex but (sadly) essential part of our economic engine now. You can only grow the industry or else it would cause a spike in unemployment and a recession (if not depression.) The only way forward is exponential growth in healthcare spending to paradoxically justify our huge debt (ie. we make it seem like we’re getting economic growth out of that debt) and to proopogate the myth that our dollar has any value after it was decoupled from gold and subjected to the fractionalized reserve banking system. Think of the explosive growth in healthcare in the last 50 year. I doubt the majority of people in the US saw a doctor but once or twice in their lifetime in 1950 and largely died at home of some unknown thing. Now people are in and out of hospitals and seeing doctors all the time and racking up enormous bills in end of life care that probably moves the goal post a mere yard or two if that. The bulk of longevity (doubling life expectancy in the last 100 years or so) is largely due to clean water, the availability of food, and hygiene and those arent even ategorized under healthcare spending. On the healthcare side antibiotics and vaccines probably increased longevity a fair amount but the bulk of those (and the most useful) were created 50 years ago and didnt cost a mere fraction relative to what we’re spending today on spurious healthcare.

Sorry to be cynical but I don’t think there is any answer but to just keep growing all these industries (big pharm, medical technology, hospitals, etc) to keep people employed and economic growth positive or the whole us capitalist system caves in on itself and that is apocalyptic in scale.

Please somebody tell me I’m wrong, because the need to keep feeding this economic engine keeps me awake at night and as much as I want everyone to grow their own food and decouple ourselves from this monster I don’t think it is possible. And I dont think their is anyone to blame, (sure there is greed, but that is capitalism). I think it is just the inherent outcome of a capitalist system and the trick is how long we can keep it going to perpetuate the myth of its sustainability before the dollar implodes. Time to take a Xanax.

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