Conspiracy Theorists and Mainstream Ideologists are the same

 Mike Wuest (@mikeyw829)6 years, 11 months ago

Both sides cling to a set of beliefs of how the world works because they cannot accept any amount of uncertainty or ambiguity. They feel safe and comfortable in the fact that THEY THINK they have it figured out.

They’re both equally as paranoid. “X group is evil and is destroying the world.” They provide equally false narratives and explanations to neutral events, and connect dots where none actually exist.

Conspiracy theorists might like to believe they’ve “seen through the lies” and aren’t “sheeple” like everyone else. Mainstream ideologists like to believe they are sane and rational, and can’t be duped into believing in crazy conspiracies.

In reality, both sides are fucking insane. And the insanity stems from the fact that they can’t accept any amount of uncertainty or murkiness, because that means the death of their psychological selves. It’s more comforting to believe that an evil cabal rules the world, or conversely, that whatever they shove down your throat on CNN is the truth, than to see the murkiness of it all.

It doesn’t matter what the belief is, once you attach yourself to it, all doubt vanishes and you can cover up that fear of uncertainty for a while.

It’s not this group of evil people or that group of evil people that is destroying our freedoms and the world, it’s ideology itself and inability to see multiple perspectives that is the true evil.

May 30, 2014 at 11:41 am
Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Hegelian Dialectic, control both sides and you control them all.

“It’s not this group of evil people or that group of evil people that is destroying our freedoms and the world, it’s ideology itself and inability to see multiple perspectives that is the true evil.

So why is this your conclusion? Without all the ideology and bullshit…. It’s plain and simple that only a few people are in control and it’s up to them what we can know and not know of what they do. That simple. They do not care about anyone besides their agenda. Even normal, everyday people do this. The difference is they are a network of the rich and influential.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

You’re focusing on superficial symptoms of a deeper issue. The fact that the many are controlled by the few isn’t the problem, it’s just a symptom and an expression of something deeper.

And this post wasn’t at all about what is going on in the world, or who runs it, or who is to blame (although it seems like you already know the answer).

Like I said, the fact that you presume it’s that simple, that a rich and powerful cabal control everyone else, is exactly part of the problem. People want answers to be concrete and set-in-stone, and no matter how dark and scary their belief is, it’s still less scary to them than ambiguity.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Well I am just wondering why you all of a sudden refute all of what you said with your conclusion, for the most part I agree. Dark and scary? None of this is any of that. It’s just plain reality.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

WHY do they control? WHY has this always been the case? The fact that they control is a non-issue. WHY is more important.

The problem isn’t going to be solved by “taking down the bad guys,” the controllers, who if they were gone, everything would be great. That line of thinking is part of the problem, and if you look at history, clearly hasn’t worked. The people who take down the controllers become the controllers themselves.

The problem is caused by a way of thinking and being.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

When did anyone say “take down the bad guys”? You know, these topics are important, and because of that they are the most distorted info you can find in the internet. These people who have these views you described might not even be people. These could be bots designed to do that. And yeah…. Why? To hide truth? To discredit any progress of real information. Yeah I think so. By who? Who else has the tools and resources to do that. The lizard people, of course… See where I’m getting at? As if it’s designed to be psychologically and socially threatening. CREATIVE WRITING 101.

There’s the shit end of misinformation conspiracies but there are also gems that are worth considering.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

My insanity comes from uncertainty. I’m not sure of anything anymore.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

well maybe you’re just aware of your insanity now. It’s not like you were sane when you had security in your beliefs and how you thought everything worked. You just thought you were

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I can’t remember a time where I had security in my beliefs. The only thing I absolutely believe is that I have no idea what is really going on. Way too many layers

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Where the fuck do they end??? I feel like there’s calm somewhere in the massive mindfuck storm, or at least a really good joke.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I can only hope there is an end. Infinity…kind of unrealistic and anticlimactic.

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I sometimes get my infinity swag on, walking around feeling indestructible. But then there are the days where non non existence is actually fucking terrifying.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

You hit it on the head with this. Funny thing is, I used to be a huge conspiracy theorist. Before that, I considered myself a rational person who didn’t believe in conspiracies. I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum. I think the wisest thing to do is to accept that you can’t know anything with 100% certainty. I try to remind myself of this all the time.

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Marlon (97) (@shoeopener) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Truth. I keep telling everyone I’m insane and no one ever believed me so it’s difficult to prove everyone wrong. I haven’t heard the entitlement ‘mainstream ideologists’ before. I mean, how full of shit… well that’s just not fair. I don’t want to know.

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stormy colt (80) (@Stormy-Colt) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Exactly. Once you’ve opened your eyes to the fact that we’ve all been lied to extensively by the mainstream news and that there’s more going on behind the scenes, it is easy to go from one extreme to the other. Really, nobody knows what’s really going on and any theory about anything is just a theory. It’s impossible to ever know what people call ‘truth’. All you can ever know is your subjective interpretation of events based on your own personal observations.

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Marlon (97) (@shoeopener) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I don’t love the sound of people thinking they’re only lied to, but it gives me comfort when I imagine that if people who are in some kind of an “elite” and pull humanity’s strings also don’t know what’s really going on. I hate thinking about it. Conspiracies give you issues, understanding gives people solutions. The only evil has to be unrealized and self-destructive.

I even read something on the whole thing that wasn’t surprising and I wasn’t even searching for it. A person just asking themselves why is the “enlightened” trend consisting of people who are mostly pretentious but wouldn’t mind turning into hypocrisy when it mostly suits them. The fundamental knowing is a really awaken person would never turn to hypocrisy. I’m understanding it like a person is too colorful to be only one part of the whole. A typical conversation about evil-doers appears: “We’re being screwed up by them!”; “Yes, we have to do be the ones doing the screwing!”; and what most people do usually is panic hysterically. Some people really have got the time for that kind of negativity but believe so awkwardly they’re spreading love and truth all around.

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