core philosophies

 emptyminded (@thoughtless) 7 years, 8 months ago

share your life philosophies here pls!!… throughout the collective experience we share together the one thing im certain of for all of us is change (depending on the experience)… throughout this changing of what call ourselves some things remain constant rooted deep within our belief system. in other words the thing we use to shape our belief system.

i have 2 and they are:

1. dont take shit (their belief system) from anyone unless given “first hand experience”

2.

Classification of fantasy and reality is itself a fantasy that humans created…Life begins when you make a disctinction between yourself and others. From that moment on, the world becomes a stage for the story in which you are the main character. All humans live in a fantasy in which they are the main character. But the world doesn’t recognize you as the main character at all. What nonsense. Everyone lives their entire life tormented by this confusion. There’s only one way out of this hell. To place yourself in a postion that is neither the main character nor a supporting role. In other words, the Author.” Some guy

please share yours :)

January 31, 2014 at 5:55 pm
LSDismyGOD (63) (@LSDlover) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

” Nothing is certain except having once we born, we Die and that in life one cannot stop Disaster ” Critias of Athens ( Plato Dictator uncle )
so true and we behave like that daily, as if we are immortal.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I have a few;

1) God is the line between the relevant and the irrelevant.
2) The value of truth is relative to the practicality of its application.
3) Growing in wisdom is more important than being right, when you seek to be right you will inevitably be wrong.
4) You shouldn’t fear being wrong because being wrong is an opportunity to grow in wisdom.
5) Both base fear/desire and conceptual fear/desire are the source of all irrational behaviour, disciplining these impulses and principle ideologies opens the door to wisdom.
6) Justice and injustice reveal themselves to our senses, it is just our conditioning that over-rides those senses with apathy, distraction or judgemental attitudes and opinions.
7) The primary fears a person has is mortality and surreal aloneness, when you can deal with these in ways that people are unable to manipulate you by, then you can be free of servitude, both internal and external.
8) Desires are acceptable in many ways, but not when they fall out of moderated perspective and become damaging, especially to those around you against their will.

Those are just some core philosophies I go by, there may be some others and if I think of more I’ll add them, but these feel relevant to me at the moment.

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Lisa (4) (@sfarsai) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Wow, loved your list. Will you do me a favour and expand on couple?

1. What do you mean by #1 ‘the line btw the relevant and the irrelevant’?
2. What do you mean by ‘surreal aloneness’ in #7
3. What do you mean by base fear/desire as opposed to conceptual?

Thanks so much!

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

#1 I observe that there are things around us, that we may build or are natural, that can be used to benefit us. So things either have a practical application for the benefits of humanity or not, arguing about things that are not relevant in this sense is basically a waste of time and effort.

People have a lot of trouble seeing what is relevant and what isn’t, things that I find irrelevant may not be seen as such by someone else, so it is a subjective thing really, so this line of philosophy is, as all my lines, introspective and not really something I will enforce on others, only myself.

#2 Surreal Aloneness; this is when you may be in a crowded room, a big family, or even in a close relationship with a partner but still have this underlying sense of isolation, kind of even though you are not alone, the reality of conscious existence is inherently independent of other minds.

#3 You have instinctive impulses that will drive your responses and then you have your cultural conditioning that tells you to react a certain way. The first is a natural emotional response, like seeing a rat or spider, where the second is philosophical ideology, like how certain Christians react to homosexuality for example.

The two are known to cross over often, so making the distinction between the two is not all that important, but it is useful to know what is a natural response and what is a culturally or experience developed response.

Feel free to probe me as much as you like on these, if I am unclear I like to remedy it.

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Lisa (4) (@sfarsai) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Fantastic, loved the replies. Here are my two cents.

About relevant/irrelevant and wasting time on the latter…you know up here in Canada we talk a lot about the weather, and it is an absolute social ritual, has no meaning, other than a practical use, like how many layers do I need to put on, which route is closed due to storm. You are right, the lines will blur, because on some days, I do not understand how people can talk about the weather (myself included) for over 15 min, and it is completely out of their control, it is exactly like a ritual.

About surreal aloneness: now I gotcha, yup certain is a fear, but a beautiful one, I use this fear and of course when I experience it, as an excuse to get lost and reach deep into my consciousness, make a connection to the universal soul, never feel alone that way, being alone is beautiful, sometimes I fear loneliness, which is something else…

I think any core philosophy, like yours, needs to address fear, and you’ve done just that. Cheers.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

The ways I address it are something else :p I think it is hard, if not impossible for people to go very long without a human connection, as you say loneliness, it is pretty much unavoidable, it just depends on the level of connection you seek. But I wouldn’t call that a fear, maybe a desire.

As you were talking about the weather, that is basically it, that human connection, and small talk is along the lower end of human connection, but I’d say it is very relevant. When I say irrelevant stuff, I mean mostly ideological differences, most people do just fine until someone tries to improve them :p

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i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

This is the same response to an earlier post of yours that you may or may not have seen. Maybe it will make more sense the second time around. Sorry about the typo’s and grammer glitches :)

I’d say that ultimately we can only find truth when what we learn from outside of ourselves finds a match to what is inside, Together, those two elements combine into a rough sketch of the truth as we see it, Alone, we will show it to others with pride only to see it criticized and questioned. Self-doubt set in. We question our inner voice and it all goes downhill from there. On the other hand, if we can find a forum or many forums where everyone can bring out their sketches and compare to one another, we are more likely to find how similar they are. This begins a process of give and take and soon each rough sketch refines into a perfect drawing. In that instant, the collective doubt evaporates and is replaced by high-grade energy. Therefore, I have loads of sketches.
Experience has shown time after time that the moment that word truth is brought up people stop hearing and start dwelling on the claim to truth because you take away their right to decide for themselves as to whether what your saying is true. It is our nature, to want the right to decide if something we hear is true. When someone begins with anything to the effect of “the truth is” or “I know the truth” or worst of all “you need to know the truth” They are, in effect, taking away the listeners right to decide for themselves, which often leads to outright rejection before they even hear what you have to say. So the point being, speak what truth you want to, Truth does not need to label itself as such. Truth will stand on itself. The goal is to convey knowledge. We will recognize the truth when we can acknowledge it from I felt there were three categories for understanding truth. TRUTH (all caps), Truth (with cap T), and truth (all lower case).
The TRUTH is absolute or universal truth. This would be the truth that will apply to both physical and non-physical environments. It would apply to all civilizations on earth and extraterrestrial. Although we recognize
The laws of physics as true, they only apply to the physical universe of three dimensions that utilize a time/space constructs. There are universal laws (truths) that govern and allow those constructs to be created. TRUTH absolute could care less about our beliefs and opinions of it, it cannot be argued away. It is TRUTH that operates with or without our approval and is going to affect our lives regardless. An example of a universal truth as it applies to us (because it works regardless of whether or not we are aware of it and is not dependent on our belief) would be:
OUR DAY TO DAY THOUGHTS ARE THE CONSCIOUS EXPRESSION OF OUR INDIVIDUAL BELIEFS THESE THOUGHTS INTERACT WITH ENERGY IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAWS GOVERNING THESE INTERACTIONS AND WILL MANIFEST THEMSELVES IN PHYSICAL FORM AS THE MATERIAL OBJECTS AN EVENTS THAT ARE PERCEIVED AS OUR PERSONAL REALITY, YOU CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY THROUGH THE INTEGRATION BETWEEN BELIEF AND EMOTION.
Everyone has a unique set of beliefs formed by choice from thoughts repeated often enough that they become a belief. Thoughts are made of energy and we experience that energy as emotion (think E nergy in Motion). Our thoughts will eventually manifest into physical form as objects or events.
The Truth could be best described as truth we all accept and are bound by and is particular to any given system. The laws of physics are an example that we can relate to. They could also include truths considered to be self evident in that they can be applied anywhere within a particular system even if they are not. Human dignity is an example in that it can apply to everyone. Obviously certain dictatorships are not applying this in certain places but since there is no physical law nor universal law preventing it. The truth exists in its potential. Just as we, all live together governed by the laws of physics. We can also live together governed by these self-evident truths, should we choose to do so. Other conceptual versions of Truth that are in place to varying degrees are found in terms such as freedom, right, moral, ethics etc.
Lastly are the truths (LC) I call them the alphabet truths because every man women or child can rearrange 26 letters an 10 numbers (English in this case) and manufacture as many or as few truths as they desire these are the vast and varied ocean of truths commonly reef ed to as BELIEFS. ALL BELIEFS ARE VALID. There are no right or wrong beliefs, Beginning at a very early age we each begin constructing a group of beliefs, We choose to accept and what to reject, and making better choices as we get older and form our own world view. These core beliefs are influence by our parents, teachers, preachers, friends and family as well as our own observations they can and are altered throughout our lives, and for the most part, they remain in our subconscious mind. Our beliefs do, however, express themselves every day through our conscious thoughts and then through speech.

One point to impress upon those who say there is no universal truth. There is one that I am aware of and don’t have a problem expressing, if for no other reason, but to see how someone might try to argue it. A lot of people are aware of truths that could be called universal, but most people just are not ready to hear an accept them. They also lack the foundation on which those truths are built. Everyone learns truth when the time is right and the desire is clear. The UNIVERSAL TRUTH that is hard to deny, is simply this: The Nature of the reality is what it is, what it has always been and what it always will be. How we perceive it, our beliefs about it, and all the arguments never settled make no difference because it is what it is.
If reality is a physical universe, if it contains both a physical and non-physical, if there is a heaven, hell, god and angels, If it has 12 dimensions or multiple dimensions or parallel worlds, Whatever it may be can be expressed as a universal truth. IT IS WHAT IT IS. The nature of reality both physical and nonphysical as well as our true nature IS WHAT IT IS. IT WILL BE AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AS IT IS. It does not change what it is. It has no obligation to reveal evidence of its nature nor is it hiding evidence. IT IS WHAT IT IS. It does not require nor does it care whether we believe or not believe. Arguing about it, denying it, makes no difference whatsoever.
I felt there were three categories for understanding truth. TRUTH (all caps), Truth (with cap T), and truth (all lower case). The TRUTH is absolute or universal truth. This would be the truth that will apply to both physical and non-physical environments. It would apply to all civilizations on earth and extraterrestrial. Although we recognize the laws of physics as true, they only apply to the physical universe of three dimensions that utilize a time/space constructs. There are universal laws (truths) that govern and allow those constructs to be created. TRUTH absolute could care less about our beliefs and opinions of it, it cannot be argued away. It is TRUTH that operates with or without our approval and is going to affect our lives regardless. An example of a universal truth as it applies to us (because it works regardless of whether or not we are aware of it and is not dependent on our belief) would be:

OUR DAY TO DAY THOUGHTS ARE THE CONSCIOUS EXPRESSION OF OUR INDIVIDUAL BELIEFS THESE THOUGHTS INTERACT WITH ENERGY IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAWS GOVERNING THESE INTERACTIONS AND WILL MANIFEST THEMSELVES IN PHYSICAL FORM AS THE MATERIAL OBJECTS AN EVENTS THAT ARE PERCEIVED AS OUR PERSONAL REALITY, YOU CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY THROUGH THE INTEGRATION BETWEEN BELIEF AND EMOTION.

Everyone has a unique set of beliefs formed by choice from thoughts repeated often enough that they become a belief. Thoughts are made of energy and we experience that energy as emotion (think E nergy in Motion). Our thoughts will eventually manifest into physical form as objects or events. This process is governed by what we know as the universal Law Of Attraction.
The Truth could be best described as truth we all accept and are bound by and is particular to any given system. The laws of physics are an example that we can relate to. They could also include truths considered to be self evident in that they can be applied anywhere within a particular system even if they are not. Human dignity is an example in that it can apply to everyone. Obviously certain dictatorships are not applying this in certain places but since there is no physical law nor universal law preventing it. The truth exists in its potential. Just as we, all live together governed by the laws of physics. We can also live together governed by these self-evident truths, should we choose to do so. Other conceptual versions of Truth that are in place to varying degrees are found in terms such as freedom, right, moral, ethics etc.
Lastly are the truths (LC) I call them the alphabet truths because every man women or child can rearrange 26 letters an 10 numbers (English in this case) and manufacture as many or as few truths as they desire these are the vast and varied ocean of truths commonly reef ed to as BELIEFS. ALL BELIEFS ARE VALID. There are no right or wrong beliefs, Beginning at a very early age we each begin constructing a group of beliefs, We choose to accept and what to reject, and making better choices as we get older and form our own world view. These core beliefs are influence by our parents, teachers, preachers, friends and family as well as our own observations they can and are altered throughout our lives, and for the most part, they remain in our subconscious mind. Our beliefs do, however, express themselves every day through our conscious thoughts and then through speech
All that is or will ever be is energy that is conscious. This conscious energy evolves as it flows from its core, expanding and progressing by expressing itself into what we perceive as physical and non-physical forms which in reality are only differentiated by the frequency of their individual vibrations. Our planet, the elements, vegetation, animals, and humans are expressions of this core energy at different stages of evolution. All of the objects in the physical universe are other expressions of the same core energy, including any other life sustaining planets and any creatures or “extraterrestrial” beings (as opposed to “human” beings) that inhabit those worlds. The same holds true for higher vibration (those we perceive as non-physical) realities.
This energy operates in accordance with the universal laws (which can probably be defined by higher mathematics). We, as expressions of that energy, exist and evolve according to those laws as well. Our day-to-day experience is the effect of our vibrational alignment with, or resistance to, those laws. The portion of that core energy conscious that is being expressed in earth’s human population has evolved (in varying degrees) to a point where it has become aware that it is an expression of that original source energy. Moreover, it is intellectually evolved enough to understand its potential and the infinite possibilities available when it is in alignment with the higher vibration of more evolved expressions of that same core energy.

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Lisa (4) (@sfarsai) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

You summed up my philosophy, although a bit long winded, you got it. @i4cim2b,

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Lisa (4) (@sfarsai) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I like this, you have a simple reductive philosophy, I rather be the author anyways..

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 7 years, 8 months ago ago
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Anonymous (107) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Nature is mysterious and beautiful and you have the freedom to participate.

It doesn’t matter how strong you are, it matters how strong you want to be.

Choose carefully who you identify with because their opinion of your life will be as important as your own.

Never hesitate to nurture or challenge yourself as you see fit.

Never call yourself ugly.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Politically I am libertarian. Though most libertarians see humanity in too rational a light.

Morally, I’m a non-believer, anything goes in the human condition.

Economically, I believe in a free market. This may be “evil” on this site, but meh who cares….

Philosophically, I endorse Enlightenment principles by and large, and in terms of religion I’m an atheist.

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emptyminded (68) (@thoughtless) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

thanks for all the replies, i hoped more people shared their belief system so that anyone (especially people new to the whole idea, can understand what exactly it is to believe in something)… i guess some people believe systems cant be summed up by mere words…

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