Dark Retreat (14 Days in Darkness)

rock_zaozz (@rockzaozz) 8 years, 8 months ago

So I was interesting in doing this retreat , that consist in being in a cave with total darkness
for 14 days , where you have a place to do youre needs of course , and the unique food that you will have is juice so it will be a Juice Fasting.

¿I wanna know if anyone of you have done this ? @martijn , @manimal
¿What do you think of this?

Images of the caves:


“A totally dark environment, according to Mantak Chia, is a distraction free reset of the mind from its preoccupation of the senses, making it an ideal environment for self enquiry and meditation. On top of that, he claims, the body is stimulated in darkness to produce dimethyltrypthamine (DMT) from the amino acid tryptophan. This “Spirit Molecule” is responsible for heightened transcendental states of love and compassion.”

There exist five stages accordingly to a blogger

‘Melatonin Stage’ (Day 1 to 3)

Complete isolation from external light causes the pineal gland to flood the brain with the neurotransmitter melatonin (average 2 to 5 mg/day), manifesting initially as the need for sleep and rest. The eyes recuperate from the over-stimulation of the visual world, releasing the grip of mental concerns, plans, agendas, and letting the energies settle. Melatonin is essential for maintaining the hibernation state, which facilitates the emergence of spiritual consciousness. The person retains a child-like biological continuation. When this substance works together with the yellow marrowin the bone, the reddish firing reaction will activate a gentle interaction between the sacred water and the light. The sacred waters are the finer fluids that are responsible for producing bone marrow and other bodily fluids. The waters run not only in the center of the bones, but also in the spinal connections between the Crown and Perineum Points.

‘Pinoline Stage’ (Day 3 to 5)

After about three days, when melatonin concentration reaches sufficient levels (15 to 20 mg) the body then begins to produce superconductor pinoline, whereby a greater fluidity of thought and healing of body starts to occur. Pinoline induces cell replication (mitosis) and intercalates with DNA molecules. The ‘pinoline stage’ is normally activated only in womb, in lucid dreaming, or in near death experiences. Within this state we can metaprogram the brain to the Unity of Self, heightening awareness of the pathways with which we filter reality. At this stage, the nervous system becomes aware of itself. We become aware of the hologram of the external world that we create constantly in our head.
When the pinoline is triggered you activate your clairsentient and clairaudient powers. You may see light and visions, hear music, and gain phenomenal insight. A decoding of the DNA then begins to take place. Cosmic particles are attracted to us and decoded in the form of sound, light, knowledge and realization. The particles, which have the same cell structure as humans (and from which Tao believes you evolved), are attracted to you magnetically. The body has approximately six trillion cells, which correspond to the universe ‘without’. Each of these cells can be seen as a computer with unlimited power and potential. Each cell can become superconductor, able to receive information from the space. You are able to decode this universal information carried from outer space. You are able to decode this universal information carried from outer space, which may be as old as nothingness itself. When you enter this primordial state of force you are reunited with the true self and divinity within. You literally ‘conduct’ the universal energy. You may see into the past and future, understand the true meaning of existence, and begin to understand the order of things. You return to the womb, the cocoon of our material structure and Nature’s original Darkness.

’5-MeO-DMT Stage’ (Day 6 to 8 )

At this stage the pineal gland starts to produce the neuro-hormone 5-MeO-DMT (aka ‘akashon). This psychoactive tryptamine is highly luminiscent and also extremely phosphorescent due to the amount of phosphene that it transmits onto the visual cortex. 5-MeO-DMT switches on 40% more of the cerebral cortex and awakens the nervous system to become aware of itself; ‘beingness’ results. Hence, the possibility of metaprogramming the nervous system’s bio-computer – activating healing and conflict messages assortment of the nervous system. 5-MeO-DMT is the empathogenic neurotransmitter that expands the emotional body between ‘infinity and zero’. It gives rise to telepathy in the emotional and intuitive bodies. It engages the awakening of the ‘Flower of Life’, the spine, which begins to glow in a state of beingness and peace.
5-MeO-DMT discharges the Darkness from the Darkness. A bright light is activated and one experiences a born-again mentality. This Great White Light, the manifestation of the astral body, enables the self to project externally. At this point, some degree of ‘N-Methyl-D-Aspartare Inhibition’ (NMDA-I) usually occurs. This is a ‘soft form’ of showing of the glaumate input signals into the cells. This makes it easier for the nervous system to cause electrons to stop flowing with the cells, allowing for profound meditative trance states. 5-MeO-DMT intercalates with the messenger RNA. One can see in 3-dimensional holon pictures, as the thought behind the language.
“Techniques taught in the Darkness enable one to read and go beyond the matrix, by unifying all directions, and externalizes the soul computer so that one can start to interact with one’s own genetic code of the Tree of Life. The spine is activated and reprogrammed and you can start to process the illusion of the dream from it’s binary code into the unified translated Self:

The Unity Self.
Through 14 days of total light isolation your consciousness can be expanded to the wider wave emanations and transduce the core hologram of reality that is coherently programming ones nervous system to the Unity Self.
Many exercises will be practiced during this period: compacting Chi, consciousness and awareness into the nervous system, working with the Silent Self and anchoring the Immortal Body.
The 5-MeO-DMT prepares the nervous system, through its empathetic state of being and self awareness of the nervous system, for the DMT of dimethyltryptamine production of the pineal gland, in psychoactive milligram doses.

‘DMT Stage’ (Day 9 to 12)

When DMT levels reach more than 25 mg, one experience can become very visual. DMT is the visual Third Eye neurotransmitter. It enables the energy body and spiritto journey into hyperspace, beyond third dimensional realms of time and space. It is intensly energizing. “After some 10-12 days one starts to see in infrared, and ultraviolet, ona can actually run across the room and touch a person, by seeing their heat patterns. The Holon images exteriorize and one is walking in a Virtual Reality, which appears to be the DNA language macro uploaded,and interactive.”
When you reach the ‘DMT state’ you begin to function consciously from the various psychic centers or chakras. The bodily processes of Healing Love are then combined with those of the Darkness. The human states of true compassion and sexual arousal create a new chemistry and a new vibration within the body. This ‘special’ vibration occur at the frequency of 8Hz. ‘As in macrocosm, so it is in the microcosm’; hence if we make love, then all the cells and DNA actually make love as well. The DNA crosses over, like two serpents intertwining in an erotic embrace. You need the orgasmic vibration to arouse this crossover process which leads to the “two giving birth to three”; the conceptions of new cells.The two vital states are compassion and arousal leading to orgasm. Both are inextricably linked to love. When this ‘love-vibration’ reaches the pineal gland a new hormone is produced, which in turn creates whole body conductivity. Only when you feel the waves of orgasmic vibration and unconditional love for the self and others can


December 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm
YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, I’d do it.

rock_zaozz (20) (@rockzaozz) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@spaceghost, Cool dude ,I wanna do it too , but i dont know where, Im not able to travel to thailand right now , but i will try to replicate the same conditions ,,, cheers

YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, I may try also. I’m already interested in isolation tanks, but have no access

YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, Just gotta find 14 free days haha

rock_zaozz (20) (@rockzaozz) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

I was wrong the retreat have light meals too

August Shah (3) (@augdog97) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

I would totally do this, this seems very interesting.

Mike (42) (@DLLRE) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

I am completely down for this. 14 days of isolation would be wonderful :)

JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, I love being in the dark. About 15 minutes before bed I shut off all the lights in my house, and close my eyes and walk very carefully to bed and bathroom and so on. I attempt to do everything with my eyes closed.

I shower in complete darkness, or bathe. Close my eyes to bed, and go to sleep. The longest I’ve ever done complete darkness is around 3 hours though, but it is so relieving on the brain. So much tension is lifted as you don’t have to decipher whats going on. There is no longer the two processes of decoding the outside world as well as your thoughts – it is just thoughts.

I hope you can find a place to do it. You could rig your bathroom to do it, but it would be difficult to get 14 days of juice without seeing anything.

Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, First of all, that’s a BUSINESS. You could just go to a cave, or stay in your home in a dark room. It would be just as efficient and not cost anything.
This is just like crystals and stuff, just a way to make money by tricking people.

As for the darkness therapy itself, I have never gone for more than 8 days straight.
Juice fasting, I don’t recommend it. All that sugar will mess with your head. I water fast, with some minerals added to the water.

Now for the neurochemistry aspect, it sounds nice yes… but unfortunately it’s just a bunch of empty claims. No science has been carried out during this retreat to show what neurotransmitters are increased and when.
And this pattern of phases, that the molecules would come one after another with a few days interval… that just doesn’t add up.

And the DNA thing, absolute anti-scientific BULLSHIT. No such things happen to the DNA, it’s not even biologically possible or remotely reasonable.

Now for the “states of consciousness,” this depends mostly on the power of suggestion, visualisation, affirmations.
If a person hadn’t read that those sensations would be experienced in the dark, he/she would not experience it either.
Same goes for the definition of what the sensations are. The “unity of all” and “emotional telepathy” they speak of are just distorted perceptions, a desired outcome, a religious agenda. They want to validate a belief, and so they will.

Again, if a person goes in with no prior conditioning, his/her experience would be very different from the others who go in with their minds set on a grand illusion.

If you want clarity and freedom, you MUST give up your spiritual beliefs.

Belief is the bane of clarity, clarity is the bane of belief.

Peace and love

Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 8 years, 8 months ago ago

@rockzaozz, I’ve never done it actually, but I planned a 3 day retreat with water fasting in two weeks. Will just do it at home.

I wouldn’t believe the stages you represented here, however, and I wouldn’t trust the person who claims its true in any way. If its in any way interesting, I will keep you guys updated.

Definitely agree with this guy: @manimal,

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