Demon Troubles

 ManOutOfTime (@jgoggs)7 years, 2 months ago

I’m not sure if this is the right place for this, or even if there is a right place for this on the forum but here it goes.

So a friend of mine has informed me that her boy friend is in the process of trying to conjure a demon. She says he has been interested in this kind of thing for about 3 years. He also claims to have 4 “people” in his head. I don’t know if this is the first time he has attempted something like this or not. Our main concern at this point is weather or not he has already been, or is currently being, possessed by whatever he may, or my not have called forth from beyond the veil. I don’t know much about the banishing of spirits (I skipped those lessons in my younger years) but if he has allowed something into his body, then I want to do my best to try and get it out.

Please help, even if there is nothing wrong, I would rather be safe than sorry.

January 25, 2014 at 11:35 pm
Anonymous (53) (@) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

Without much more information, it is impossible to ascertain what this man is doing, or has done. However it begs the old adage: Be careful what you ask for. Erstwhile sorcerers are constantly casting about malefic energies.

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Q (94) (@Qualohuasca) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

Sorry to say, but it is possible that the best thing to do is to check him in to a mental ward. I have voices in my head myself, and I think my utter lack of interest in being superstitious and skepticism in general is the only thing stopping me from starting to believe that they are entities separate from myself. If I did that, I might be prone to doing what “they” are telling me to, and those things mostly encompass suicide. Your friend may be in actual danger.

As to the origins of the voices in his head, my best bet is the Shadow, from Jungian psychology. It is not a separate entity itself, but could be likened to the ID from Freudian thinking. That is, suppressed and repressed parts of his psyche that have come under his attention as opposed to being unconscious. If one is religious, it is fairly easy to start thinking those are spirits, helpers, demons or what have you.

There is no real danger in demon-summoning, I would surmise, since demons aren’t actually real. This is debatable, but this is the 21st century, and we have better explanations for diseases nowadays than the people who came up with demons. Where the danger lies is actions through ignorance (“god told me to kill my friends”-type of horrible, _religious_ bullshit) and mental illness.

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ManOutOfTime (14) (@jgoggs) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

I was simply stating what she told me. While i do believe in demons and the ability to bring them here for whatever nefarious purpose, she refused to believe right off the bat that he has mental issues. Hopefully your responses (some a bit more over reactive than others) will make her see that he is just troubled and needs help. Thank’s for the advice :)

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i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

I curious to know what kind of environment do you all live in where the young are given lessons on the banishing of spirits?

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ManOutOfTime (14) (@jgoggs) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

I personally received instruction from my grandfather, but my friend just went on the internet. I’m sure that the information he received isn’t very reliable but it still concerned me.

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i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 2 months ago ago

If your ideas of good and evil are rigorous, unbending, then you do not have
the understanding that is necessary for any conscious manipulation in this
other dimension. In other words, you should be as flexible mentally,
psychologically, and spiritually as possible, open to new ideas, creative, and
not overly dependent upon organizations or dogma.
Now, in physical life you see what you want to see. You perceive
from the available field of reality certain data – data selected carefully by you in
accordance with your ideas of what reality is. You create the data to begin with.
If you believe all men are evil, you simply will not experience the goodness in
men. You will be completely closed to it. They in turn will always show you
their worst side. You will telepathically see to it that others dislike you, and you
will project your dislike upon them.
Your experience, in other words, follows your expectations. If you are obsessed with the idea of evil, then you will meet evil conditions. If you believe in devils, then you will encounter these. A belief in demons is highlydisadvantageous during physical existence. A systematizedtheology of opposites is also detrimental. If you believe, for example, that allgood must be balanced by evil, then you bind yourself into a system of reality that is highly limiting, and that contains within it the seeds of great torment.
In such a system, even good becomes suspect, because an equal evil is seen to
follow it. A strong belief in such opposing forces is highly detrimental, however, for it
prevents an understanding of the facts – the facts of inner unity and of
oneness, of interconnections and of cooperation. A belief, therefore, an
obsessional belief in such opposing factors, is perhaps the most detrimental
element, during any existence.
There are some individuals who have never experienced during physical life
that sense of harmony and oneness in which such opposing factors merge.
Such individuals have many stages to go through following transition, and
usually many other physical lives “ahead” of them. Believing in evils, you
will of course perceive them. Your world has not triedthe experiment as yet
which would release you. Christianity was but adistortion of this main truth
am not simply speaking here of the original precepts. They were hardly given
a chance.
The experiment that would transform your world would operate upon the
basic idea that you create your own reality according to the nature of your
beliefs, and that all existence was blessed, and that evil did not exist in it. If
these ideas were followed individually and collectively, then the evidence of
your physical senses would find no contradiction. They would perceive the
world and existence as good. On the one hand, quite simply and in a way that you cannot presentlyunderstand, evil does not exist. However, you are obviously confronted withwhat seem to be quite evil effects. Now it has been said often that there is agod, so there must be a devil – or if there is good, there must be evil. This is like
saying that because an apple has a top, it must have a bottom – but without any
understanding of the fact that both are a portion of the apple.
You create reality through your feelings,thoughts, and mental actions.
You must understand that each mental act is a reality for which you are
responsible. That is what you are in this particular system of reality for. As
long as you believe in a devil, for example, you will create one that is real
enough for you, and for the others who continue to create him.
Because of the energy he is given by others, he will have a certain
consciousness of his own, but such a mock devil has no power or reality to
those who do not believe in his existence, and who do not give him energy
through their belief. He is, in other words, a superlative hallucination.
Those who believe in a hell and assign themselves to it through their
belief can indeed experience one, but certainly in nothing like
eternal terms. No soul is forever ignorant.
Those who have such beliefs actually lack a necessary deep trust in the
nature of consciousness, of the soul, and of All That Is. They concentrate upon
not what they think of as the power of good, but fearfully upon what they think
of as the power of evil. The hallucination is created, therefore, out of fear and of restriction. The devil idea is merely the mass projection of certain fears –
mass in that it is produced by many people, but also limited in that there have
always been those who rejected this principle.

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