DEPERSONALIZATION

sin (@sinsin11) 7 years, 5 months ago

JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM THOSE WHO HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED DEPERSONALIZATION/DEREALIZATION , AND HOW YOU DEAL/DEALT WITH IT AT THE TIME?
DID YOU FIND IT WENT AWAY WHEN YOU WAS LESS STRESSED AND MORE BUSY?
DOES IT EVER GO AWAY?

FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS , IT IS A FEELING OF BEING DETACHED FROM REALITY , LIKE YOU DO NOT BELONG , EITHER THE WORLD AROUND YOU ISNT REAL OR YOU YOURSELF DONT FEEL REAL
PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM ANXIETY & DEPRESSION TEND TO GET IT OR IT CAN BE BROUGHT ON BY LOW STRESS , IT IS ALSO A SYMPTOM OF PANIC ATTACKS. RESEARCHING IT WILL BE YOUR BEST BET IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT IN MORE DEPTH.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS I BELIEVE HAS BEEN BROUGHT ON BY MY SOCIAL ANXIETY AND ISOLATING MYSELF FROM OTHERS , IT HAS RESULTED IN ME FEELING DETACHED AND WITHDRAWN.
IT STARTED ABOUT 3 O’CLOCK IN THE MORNING A FEW YEARS AGO , I WAS FEEL STRESSED AND DOWN , THAN I STARTED TO FEEL UNREAL I WAS JUST STARING AT MY HANDS THINKING ARE THESE MY HANDS? ( SOUNDS BIZARRE I NO)
THAN I DID MY RESEARCH AND DISCOVERED I WAS EXPERIENCING DEPERSONALIZATION!

A PART OF ME WISHES I DIDNT RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I FEEL NOW I NO WHAT IT IS IT PLAYS ON MY MIND ALOT MORE THAN WHEN I DIDNT NO WHAT IT WAS I JUST LET IT PASS, NOT SURE THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU! BUT IT REALLY IS MIND OVER MATTER!.

BUT YEAH IVE JUST BEEN GETTING IT ALOT MORE LATELY AND AM FINDING IT QUITE DIFFICULT AS I FEEL LIKE I AM JUST LOST.
SO I WANT TO HEAR YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH DEPERSONALIZATION , PREFERABLY ONES THAT WILL EXPLAIN HOW YOU OVER COME IT.

February 26, 2015 at 2:30 pm
Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Do you think it’s a spiritual thing? like as a result of inquiry in yourself, spiritual practices, feeling connected to something higher etc…
Or is it something which occurs out of the blue, with no known cause, your basically not in to spiritual stuff?

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Funnily enough I have thought that before as I am into spiritual stuff as u put it , i have all types of theories if I dig deep but ive just accepted it is because of my anxiety.

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Ok, I can’t help you with all the possible causes for this, although I do believe that you can see it for yourself through meditation, or introspection, or anyway feels like the thing for you.

I do know that this experience happened with people who afterwords got “enlightened” like Gangaji, there’s an interview on YouTube about her where she describes this.
Also Osho and Ramana Maharshi had similar experiences, but again, it’s up to you to find out what it means to you, but I’m sure you can learn from it, I think it’s an overall good thing, although it’s probably a bit scary at times I can imagine

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Im quite the optimist so What your saying makes sense and makes it seem a lot less frightening if im honest , when it occurs I do 10 mins of mindfulness meditation which helps , I’ll have a look at the youtube clips u mentioned. :)

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

That’s great that your optimistic! It seems to me like a fun thing to go into, and explore actually.
If this would happen to me, I would want to know everything about it, and what I could do with it!

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I suppose you can take it how u want to take it , like I said in my previous message there was a time when I actually thought is this some kind of spiritual awakening am I gifted lool sounds mad but I believed it for a moment than started doing research on that side of things , but wether thats the truth or not if it cures someone to believe that it IS a spiritual awakening of some sort than so be it right

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

whatever feels good and right!

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I had depersonalization on and off for about a year, with one pretty intense period where I was so disconnected I thought I was dead, which happened when I was having panic attacks. Exercise helped massively, as did meditation…so the usual stuff. The thing which has kept it at bay for 6 months plus was recognizing it wasn’t me. I guess its hard to explain, but within my mind I find a witness to the state, because if I’m witnessing it then how can I be it.

The anxiety still occasionally comes and goes, although I haven’t had a full blown attack in some time. It was basically telling me something was wrong, and I changed those things.

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Thank you for sharing that , it is always refreshing to no your not the only one even thought ino in my mind loads of people experience this hearing it makes that difference , I also practice mindfulness meditation and find that it helps for a bit , I don’t have it severely but either way it’s quite a scary experience , u dont no if its going to ever go away or if it’s just short term.

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

We’re never alone in any mental state even when it feels completely alien to us. I guess you just gotta roll with it and try and enjoy the different perspective.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I’ve experienced it since I was 8. I don’t see it as a disorder but rather a more intuitive cognition, and also a result of being conditioned to detach from my real energy to cope with everything that is compulsory as a child. The thing that needs to be worked with is that when you put too much space between your mind and wherever your body is, you get too much rush of adrenaline whenever you are forced to participate. Having a VERY clear purpose for why you are where you are is the key for me. Then you won’t feel as lost but you can also walk in the world with a healthy detachment.There is nothing wrong with you.

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Isochronic Bliss (20) (@Libercognition) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I went through a period of dealing with depersonalization issues shortly after experiencing ego death. It often felt as though I was in a foggy dream-like purgatory, that state between egocentrism and self-actualization where you’re always sort of off-balance, and heavily prone to being a victim of the energy states in your environment. Tethered to existential indecisiveness, never knowing who you really are or what you want/should do. I feel it was caused from having a series of realizations in a short period of time, only the problem was created through the failure to fully integrating the realizations. So I guess you could say I had caught a glimpse of nirvana and had my ego destroyed (from what was supposed to be a recreational encounter with psilocybin haha). So when I came out of that experience, I suddenly realized the hoax of the “I”, that had been playing with myself. My conditioned egocentric disposition sought vainly to conceive what had occurred, yet I was unable to fully process the experience, because the part of me it had exposed, was hiding the realizations, from the part of me that was trying to go back and figure out what it learned that was infinitely beyond itself. Needless to say, neuroticism prevailed for some time, but it was all necessary for attaining individuation. You can’t really know who you are or what you’re about, until you destroy everything you’re not.

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Adam (4) (@arad13) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Yeah I had some of what you are describing when I dealt with some heavy depression. I would easily consider it the lowest moments of my life. When this depersonalization occurred (fun fact: also at about 3-4am) it felt so foreign to me that I decided to journal it through free-writing, or just writing whatever popped up in my mind. The more I wrote about it and tried to think as to why I felt this way, not researching online but just looking into myself, the feeling slowly subsided and eventually I had enough closure to sleep it off. That was maybe a year and a half ago and I still get goosebumps when I read it today. It may be an instance of mind over matter, but my mind is what drove me into depression. So in my opinion it would be best to be conscious of the action taking place, and consciously move your mind to other things, most preferably things you love. And I believe you can’t over-preach the truth so yeah learning meditation is cool.

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

well i have started practicing mindfulness meditation also in the moments when i feel the DP taking over and have seen great results i can  say i haven’t had it for a while now ,  i no it may come and go but i feel i can control better now , i think i may do what you do and keep a journal , i began writing during one moment when it happened but at that time i felt like i didn’t want to do anything  so i wrote a few words then put the pen down , but its always good to write a journal especially when experiencing something like DP.  sure is mind over matter!! thanks for your comment :)

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Connor Williamson (18) (@Conn) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I recently posted a discussion about this. Since I had the experience many times I began to question the nature of MY REALITY and it always occupied my mind. It was as if when I was thinking about it even my vision would change and everything I experienced was just a product of my mind, almost like a dream except my insides burned with anxiety and a sort of dreadfulness. One incident in particular made me really paranoid but also sparked my interest in pursuing spirituality. I think for me, those feelings came from the desire for me to know who I am. Now, Even though I sometimes fascinate those same thoughts, I am not overcome with fear or anxiety, instead I am starting to realize who I am and become comfortable in my own life. I dont know how to help you rid of the negative feelings. But I can tell you what worked for me. I recognized my problem and didnt search for an understanding of why I was having these episodes, instead I reached out and truly decided that I wanted change in my life, a very real and powerful feeling of urgency to be comfortable in my reality. Then almost like magic, “things” started happening to encourage my change. Maybe im lucky but I hope you find the same sort of luck I did.

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Hiya , sorry for the late reply , they should make an APP for this website so we no when people have replied , i can relate to what your saying ive started practicing mindfulness meditation,  also always been a spiritual person at heart , but i have just started 2 become more spiritually awake and i  am now following that path , i have noticed it has given me a inner peace and helps me deal with all my anxiety’s and fears also the DP , i wrote this post at a time where i felt there was no way back from DP but i can say i havent experienced it for a while now , i also aint going to fear it any more. i am on a spiritual journey im on my way , i hope you have managed to over come this or keep it under control!! all the best :) 

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Tone Tone (71) (@spreadthelove) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

I was depressed when I diagnosed myself with depersonalization. I know exactly what you mean by the discovery that the disease exists makes it so much worse. It validates all of your depersonalized thoughts and makes you think, “I have that, there’s nothing I can do about it”, and you give up. I still have tons of social anxiety, but my depression has subsided. Also, I do not suffer from depersonalization anymore. So that’s a good thing! Woohoo, hope! You may not like the solution to this problem. Your isolation led you to depersonalization. The way to overcome this is to make connections with people, feel your emotions. Whether they be good or bad emotions, emotions caused by other people will help you feel different and bring you back into the world. It can be hard meeting people, especially if you have bad social anxiety. Join a club, a league, or any other organization in your area. I joined Toastmasters (a public speaking club) that has sections all around the world. Also, here is a Reddit post that can give you some insight:

http://np.reddit.com/r/GetMotivated/comments/2xc947/text_soon_i_will_be_gone_forever_but_thats_okay/

You need to stay busy. Take your mind off this. Note that it is really all in your head. Write down three things that you’re passionate about, or at least three things that you’re interested in (other than video games, surfing the Internet, or other BS. Stuff that could actually be considered productive.) Start putting time into one or all of them. If you don’t know what you like, start doing some research and exploring.

It is absolutely vital that you interact with as many people as possible. You’re going to face tons of resistance, but you have to decide, do I want to be like this forever? If I told you you would 100% feel normal if you worked on improving yourself for a year, would you do it? One tough year, for 60 more of happiness. This is realistic and can be your reality. It’s your choice.

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Isochronic Bliss (20) (@Libercognition) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Loved the reddit post and totally concur with your advice.

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Hello , thank you so much for taking the time to reply , i have just seen this 2months later ,  better late than never , but i can say i havent experienced  DP in a while now , i have found inner peace through meditation and following the spiritual path , also what your saying is very true keeping busy , it is mind over matter.

Although i would rather it never came back , if it comes i feel il be able to keep it under control a lot more , it has helped hearing other peoples stories (yours included) so thanks alot , appreciate it!

All the best :))

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Tone Tone (71) (@spreadthelove) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

No problem. If I can punch keys on a keyboard and make someone feel better I sure as hell goddamn will! Haha. Really glad you’re feeling better. Inbox me if you’re ever having trouble.

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sin (3) (@sinsin11) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Haha , will do , thank you x

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

What works best for me is getting out into the woods or someplace natural like a lake etc. I normally ride my mountain bike on the trails but walking on them is even better. Even a barefoot walk on the grass can work wonders for grounding and recharging yourself. 

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Depersonalization & Derealization are symptoms of anxiety, and types of Dissociation.
I am diagnosed with D.I.D. and experiences these frequently.

Its not forever, youre going to be ok, and youre not alone.
If you need to talk to someone about this stuff you can message me but id suggest also talking to a therapist.
Its not “a spiritual thing” it could be depersonalization disorder and you need to seek mental health advice about it.

While mindfulness is good, sometimes it can make people with dissociative disorders symptoms worse!!!

lots of people experience things like this without it being an indicator of something more serious- but you might also come across a lot of people who have anecdotal advice that wont take into consideration your greater experience which is important.

When something like this happens you need to talk to a therapist!!!

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