Freedom of speech.
But I Desifemilove really is a shill. One of their strategies isn’t to simply disagree with you, its to derail every thread possible, and to make a website’s quality of community / discussion go down.
There is no way that someone would post with the frequency she does, and never actually have a point to make, other than to disagree (in a very esoteric, hard to pin-point way) everytime.
For the sake of quality, I would seriously recommend ignoring her or calling her out on this act. It is my own personal opinion that she has contributed nothing good to this site. I highly doubt she is even a girl. I highly doubt she’s not scripted. Highly doubt she’s even proud of what she’s doing. But it pays the bills, right Desi?
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It? Cares a lot to share it doesn’t care. Maybe it’s hurt. Maybe most people posting here are hurt. If freedom of speech existed, a remark about retarded niceties would be taken as a joke. This guy or gal isn’t derailing anything. The irony is this person gets attention from people that take the provocative bait. He/she even said it multiple times. I prioritize quality but High Existence is derailed without the i-can-t-even-pronounce-mi-love. It’s kind of obvious. You said it, ignore this shit. It’s a waste of time.
lol… sorry, you act hostile to me, I respond in kind.
Don’t act like the wounded party, unless you have a reason to be as such.
do i need to care? seriously, do i?
basic human conduct, dude. i don’t need to pay effort into people i don’t know.
I totally agree with this. When the account first popped up I thought it was someone just trolling around. Eventually I stopped replying to his/her threads & posts. I try to respect his/her opinions and views but like you say, that account is always disagreeing & never actually making a point. Its gotten to the point where I just thumbs down every discussion started by that account.
meh. don’t care. it takes to tango though, I’ve had plenty respond to innocently made threads prior in rude manners, again I don’t care. Perhaps spiritualists are Asperger’s/autistic, if so, not my concern.
Look, YOU posted about how you contradict, and then in many threads you have said how “wrong” it is for me to do so. Your standpoint doesn’t even make sense, which frankly to me is offensive as if you control how others behave lol.. I don’t want to “make nice” with somebody who doesn’t even have reasoned points, or thinks his subjective views his culture/society/family gave him apply to all others.
I like how I’m supposed to respond to you, but not you to me….
Oh yes, Tibetan books MAKE THE WORLD…
Sorry, you attack me, I attack you. it’s the human way.
You say you’re smart you in reality you’re not.
You read the Tao, but don’t study reality.
You know despite being a self-proclaimed spiritualist, you always used to harass me on my threads. I personally don’t care if you don’t like me, why must I give a shit if some Web stranger doesn’t? lol.. Sorry, in life you get as you give, your guru/the Gita/the Tao Ching or whatever tells you that..
Look, I don’t care. It is because YOU have an issue with me “contradicting” and getting all prissy and pissed off, when I don’t care. I’m a free human being, and as with all humans, I do as I please.
It seems the issue here is you push all of your esoteric nonsense from your excusions/culture, look I’m not even interested. I have my values, you have yours. you’re probably older than I am, yet I get the world/humanity better than you do…
Eh? I don’t care about your Ben Stiller piece…
It’s actually amusing, since you claim wisdom but if you follow me around to say how I “contradict”, or are openly abrasive when I cite basic points, then you warrant what you get lol..
I think the issue here is you don’t get how people behave. If you want to convince me of your point, then cite how you are the innocent party.
My suspicion of you is that you don’t ground your knowledge/insights in reality, but translate subjective pieces as reality.
it’s called being human…
Are you behaviourally modern? Seemingly so, and I presume you’re not a quadruped. OK, so you’re human too, and thus should understand having suspicions. Again, you seemingly like to judge me based on suspicions.
Sorry dude, you all respond negatively to me.
Look, you claim to be wise, cite why I’m the wrong party?
I get the suspicion you read some Tibetan book and reckon it’s universal gospel.
It’s clear you’re “offended” that I contradict. And the source of this offence is based on your own moral views.
I don’t need to care about anybody’s moral views, as none are better than the other. Unless you’ve proven objective morality, i’d like to see your evidence, as I value an open mind.
Eh? I simply give as good as I get.
Can you say you’ve been always munificent here?
I already have.
My basic point is you’re pleading the hurt party, when in reality I respond in kind.
you are using your higher knowledge to make people look stupid by only givingt hem conclusions with no bridge on how you got there, and you seem to enjoy it immensely, i can see you eat this shit up, this, to someone with your awareness, should tell you something about where your ego currently is,
you see the difference as a reason to act indifferent, indifference is always a selfish choice
I’m not interested.
Look, I’m not a Buddhist. I’m an atheist actually, though I’d guess you say this makes me “evil” (I don’t think I’m an evil person, never killed, raped anybody…) so you’re Buddhist-based attempts to change me are only telling.
Sorry, but they have all continually tell me things without me directly telling me, about “who or what I am or my agenda is”. In my cultural tradition, it’s not necessarily tit for tat, but then it’s not about passively taking the passive route. Most in my culture would neither rationally is “better” than the other here…
That said, I don’t welcome you trying to “convert” me. I don’t know who you are, and I live by my own beat. As well as an atheist, I am a libertarian and nihilist, the only meaning of life is our own. Whether that makes me “evil” too, meh…so be it…
Here it is. Calling her out. She STILL has the same responses. I think it’s the only ones we’ll get. You know something is up when the thread starter derails their own thread and makes no attempt to get it on track. Should’ve known, since we all know New Age is a controversial topic, the whole point of thread was to derail it first chance.
@josephm, that happens to me too. Seems to happen whenever you edit a post and click Send. When I want to edit a post, I edit, copy the whole (new) message, then click “back” to go back to the un-edited post. I delete that. Then I paste my message in the Reply box and post as a new post.
Exploration and growth versus being right and standing out, what a persons personal goal is in this respect makes a huge difference to everything about them, I agree with you about Desifemilove; whoever it is asks a lot of questions and basically rejects all answers because it doesn’t fit the world view that has been pre-decided.
Desifemilove is looking for permission or validation, not for answers.
I accept all views. Do you? I don’t have to agree nor endorse them. I also see you have “tolerance” towards all others views posted here haha!! Even posts I make you question like crazy… Sorry but every “question” I ask is met by YOU and others with derision, when others post even worse or inane points any reasoned person living in the early 21st century SHOULD know… If you wish to be selective and/or overly subjective, it’s your own business, but then don’t think others must accept or agree with “your business”..
It’s amusing though, you project this aura of being wise, but in reality I don’t think you are. You most likely bury your head in some guru’s teachings without seeing the wider world around you…
Wisdom is an adequate blend of knowledge and compassion, it is applying knowledge in a compassionate way, lack of wisdom is self evident, I do not need to point it out. All I seek to do is offer perspective that can strengthen people, but for it to take hold they have to be receptive to it. I do not demand they are, that is their decision and frankly their loss, if people want to grow then it has to become more important than being right.
I think I’m only right because it isn’t as important to me as exploring and growing everyday, that is the paradox of life.
The only reason people are wrong is because they stagnate on a discovery and it mutates into an ideology. With knowledge there is no end of the line, no ultimate truth, it just goes on perpetually and indefinitely, you can ride with it your entire life or you can get off track.
I don’t believe in absolutes. Only fools do, as human knowledge is inherently limited. But then I’ve seen you comment on my threads about something you disagree with, lol.. So what then is the difference and who is in the “right” or “wrong” here? I think my initial suspicion of you was correct, you most likely read or listen to some guru, without thinking critically what is real or what isn’t. Because your guru says xyz about humans, doesn’t mean it’s true or valid.
But then I am supposed to accept your points, and you dismiss mine lol.. whatever… as you claim wisdom, learn human interaction skills…
You missed the point of what I said, I wasn’t saying you were wrong, I told you the only way a person can be wrong. In a sense I’m wrong all the time but I grow from those errors, hence it negates the wrongness about it. Being wrong is an opportunity to grow, or it can become a stubborn principle that holds you back.
eh? lol.. I like your selective analysis of the point at hand. I personally don’t care about your points, seemingly you’re too subjective to have a good dialogue with.
It’s also funny that I’m somehow “expected” to engage civilly with you (lol.. you don’t get human conduct, do you?) when you claim to insult me lol.. On numerous threads, you if anything have been rude to me without cause, but you select a few instances to support your point.
I’m not interested, you only seem to view things from your own standpoint…
Don’t we all view things from our own standpoint? I don’t think there is anything wrong with my conduct, I say what I say in a way I think the person I’m speaking to can access, the better I get to know them the better I am at it.
What you consider insults I intend as challenges, you thrive on confrontation, I consider it childish, and so I point out this fact and it tends to be so devastating to someone with an ego like yours that you interpret it as an insult rather than a lesson in humility, as it really is.
Your views/reality only does apply to you. it cannot apply to others.
lol…..of course we do, all things are subjective. but then on numerous occasions, you’ve said “eh..who cares?” or “eh…what does that mean?” sorry, but if you respond to me harshly, I respond in kind.
You presume that people must look up to you, yet anybody with half a brain knows this isn’t how people get on. You conflate your own personality with accepted standards of conduct.
Calling you an idiot would be an insult, I never do that, what I do is point out flaws in logic, what you can do with that is use the advice to your benefit or you can conclude that I’m insinuating you are an idiot.
But I don’t think a person is an idiot for lacking in wisdom, I consider them an idiot for not striving for wisdom, it just isn’t productive to call them that; people are more likely to take your advice if they respect you, but then some simply consider themselves superior in understanding and so the notion of respect is lost on them, that is when you must knock them down a peg.
Pointing out flaws in logic can have two possible results; 1) it strengthens your logic, which is good, or 2) it humbles you, which is also good. That isn’t an insult, an insult seeks to weaken you, what I do seeks to strengthen you.
lol.. why must people accept your “wisdom”? you seem like a presumptuous person, do you get lonely and like to “lecture” to strangers?
You’d probably presume I’m being “rude”, when nothing you’ve said about me in this thread is objective and just your subjective view of the point at hand.
My diagnosis of you is that you live in a reality of your own conceptual design, you see the lack of inherent value of concepts in a Nihilistic sense, which is correct, but you draw no distinction between concepts and nature, which is a fatal error.
Yes there are no inherent values, but that perspective only applies as far as concepts, natural values do exist beyond concept, it is just so hard to realise that because any understanding of nature we have by definition is a conceptual translation of it.
lol.. I don’t believe that. Say I’m “not being receptive”, I don’t care, I don’t have to be.
See, you judge me and then cite how much I “must respect you”. You like to project yourself as wise, but really you’re not. If you can judge me, I judge you. the fact you cannot cite any reasoned claim beyond Tibetan/personal beliefs is telling….
It seems along the way, you didn’t get the rudiments of interpersonal interactions.
lol… why do you presume I must listen to you or take in what you say? I’m my own person, and we’re strangers.
lol… you’re not as “enlightened” as you purport.
I don’t need your “counsel” or thoughts, I don’t know you.
again, you claim to be “learned” but if I appear hostile, I respond in kind. It’s humanity, bud, get with it..
You are doing the same thing. Let people do the thinking themselves. You are not a fucking police man of this site. Sure you are a mod, so what? Just because someone’s(or something) view is totally alien to what this site is all used to, doesn’t mean it is complete horseshit. You are also acting like a shill and you don’t even know it.
You are all missing the point. You are all raising pitchforks on something so obvious just to feel in tune. I’ve been one of you guys in the past. You are fucking spineless, exactly, grow some balls.
That’s besides the point, Mr.Strawman. Who knows… disifemilove could be someones spare account, most likely you.
What you say is true, this site is open to the spectrum of opinion, but the site does have a Mission, and that is the guidelines this site operates under. You will find Mods intervene when arguments become circular, where no growth or exploration is offered.
When you come to this site and someone drops an obvious knowledge bomb on you, then you come back the next day and behave like that didn’t happen, then it raises questions about either your sanity or your agenda. That is what I.J.C is saying here.
“and that is the guidelines this site operates under. You will find Mods intervene when arguments become circular, where no growth or exploration is offered.”
You forget, this is the internet. The internet also has guidelines that it operates under. Sure if this site is an actual place where we all go and talk then maybe your opinion makes sense. No one on the internet is how they are in real life.
Also… Because mods are exempt from bias and are inherent geniuses, right? Fuckin bullshit
“then you come back the next day and behave like that didn’t happen, then it raises questions about either your sanity or your agenda”
Again. Internet. Some people just don’t take it seriously, simple as that. You will see that a lot with disifem’s posts. Trolling has a purpose, IN THE INTERNET. This is what you guys are missing.
The thing is, any group you join will have standards, your membership depends on it. HE respects people and their opinions, and as members that is expected of you also. It isn’t a case of us being Nazis about this, it is a case of not allowing Nazis to break the rules that define the site because of some warped interpretation of Free Speech.
What I’m saying is very basic. You guys are now trolled to your knees.
This is just… ugly. I am sure no one is benefiting from this entire thread.
Standards… people on here are so deceptively nice that the dumbest fucking thread or post can be restricted to a natural reaction and can be taken seriously just because an empty barrel is the loudest. Who is even real these days? There’s a loadshit of images and quotes that preach something simple no one applies.
Seriously, children have bigger balls than the posters here. It’s not even about balls, there seems to be no touch with reality whatsoever. What the fuck? What the literal break-dancing stick on a dreidel?
And yes, this is the internet, and there are plenty of opportunities to be dicks elsewhere, but this site has community standards, it isn’t anarchy, and for its own integrity of quality it needs those standards and the right to enforce them.
“I’ve been one of you guys in the past.” According to your eyes I’m trying to be heroic. No, I’m just another person with an opinion. Just like any other member in here. Heroic? Better reread this topic you started and you will see a real hero. You are fighting yourself. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. Oh no man, Freud is right. haha.
How come you only show up in threads after shitposters start getting slammed?
How come you only post off-topic stuff and never anything that contributes to the discussion?
How come you’re trying so hard to belittle IJC here?
@ijesuschrist, If you think desi is a shill of any merit, you’re very mistaken. Shills with basic skills operate more like motorik.
If desi is a shill, it’s one of the crappiest shills ever.
Grats. You got me. Haha, shit is funny… The same thing desi argues is that popular opinion in this site consists of actual “shit posts”. The usual “help me, give me sympathy.” Out comes the entitled “I’m so experienced, here’s some spiritual wisdom for your ass.” Over and over again. When it comes to critical realist opinions, you all suddenly burn witches. I guess I see variety in desi’s posts.
See… The things that garner most attention here are topics like this. So I guess why not right? Let it rip? Ok… Why don’t i start topics? I don’t feel too cock sucky enough to assert that what I think is worth broadcasting, rather i stay in comments just as another voice in the fucking crowd.
Why do I go off topic? Because you guys are like copies of copies. You all have pre-packaged answers. Actually, I’m flattered. I’m a good shill? I just might apply for a job somewhere. :]
Oh yeah. Not to mention the comment deleting and stuff.
lulz…. look i’m not interested in your view of me. as said, you all rag off on me, yet you complain how I “don’t contribute to discussions” or “bring the tone down”. This place is immaterial to me, and you’re strange if you think I must care.
I’m actually only in this thread since you all are funny. you think I must act like your “bro” and want me to like/ respect you no matter what. You dismiss my points, yet expect me to answer yours to the full. it’s comical, since it’s baseless crap you expect of a stranger.
spiritualists as yourselves think you have a clue, but you really don’t… you don’t add positive value to the world around you
For the lulz… and to discuss. who says I must place high value on it?