Did I make the right choice?

 Anonymous (@) 7 years, 9 months ago

So, yesterday I signed up for the AFROTC (Air Force ROTC) program in college (something I wanted to do very much) and I am qualified for everything. I passed the medical exam, the background check, the English test, etc. The thing is that they have extensive forms in which you swear to be completely honest to the State, also the program teaches honesty and integrity beyond all, so why the hell would we lie? Well if you answer something in these forms and they found out it is not true, you will get kicked out and if this were the big leagues it’s the same as an Dishonorable Discharge for lying. The sergeant that was helping me complete the form said she didn’t care about who I was in the past, if not who I will be from now on, basically pushed us to be honest.

In the last form, the drug one, there was a question where it said “Have you ever used or experimented with Marijuana in the past? if so explain.” and it said in parenthesis that answering yes here doesn’t really disqualify you, it only renders you incapable of some skills or something like that, no big deal really.

Well, I did MJ once, when this college semester was starting and it really wasn’t for me, I tried it once and that’s about it. I could have just written NO in the form because it’s really hard to detect after this long, but i still thought (Well it’s better if I write it here and if they find out someday I won’t get kicked out for lying). After I was done the sergeant said that I could start next Tuesday but I needed to go to her office to explain to her why I wrote yes, other than that I didn’t see any weird faces or her treating me any differently. But I just wrote I smoked weed in the past on an official Military form.

So, explaining the whole situation, I just wanted to hear different points of views from you guys, Do you think I made the right choice?

January 15, 2014 at 3:17 am
Obviously, you’re not a golfer (605) (@donjaime23) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

If getting into AFROTC was something you really REALLY wanted to do, then you should have put ‘NO.’ I applied to Marine OCS and was turned down because I put ‘YES’ in the same section. Tried again with the Army, put ‘NO,’ passed the drug test, got in.

So long as you can pass a drug test on the spot, then “you’ve never done drugs before.” This is all just initial paperwork, not an honesty test. Catch my drift?

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Anonymous (11) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

@donjaime23 I wish I knew this before I signed all the papers, well, let’s just see what happens next Tuesday, I REALLY want to do the AFROTC. Also, they have strict policy right? They can’t just share those forms with other military branches, let’s say I try for Army ROTC and put no (im obviously passing the drug test), wouldn’t they cross check with the things I wrote earlier and kick me out for “Lying” ? I didn’t get turned down though, she said I could start normally next Tuesday, but that I had to explain it to her one-on-one and write it down on the form.

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Anonymous (11) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Core values really get messy and muddy when it comes to this, lots of debatable opinions and points of view.

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Obviously, you’re not a golfer (605) (@donjaime23) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

No, the different branches do NOT cross-check with one another. If they do, it’s a violation of a Privacy Act law. If they haven’t turned you down on the spot, that’s a promising sign. What they’re really looking for is to make sure you’re not a coke- or meth-head, have any criminal convictions, or are involved in any criminal activities.
These people are not naive, they know most everyone nowadays has tried weed once or twice. So as long as it’s only been once or twice, and (most importantly) so long as you can pass that drug test, you should be good to go.

Put your core values aside for now, amigo. It’s good that you have integrity, but integrity is a virtue that seldom goes unpunished. At this stage in the game, following instructions and adhering to regulation is more important than morally weighing situations.

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Anonymous (11) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Thank you @donjaime23, that was really helpful. And I completely get your points. I’ve been going to PT and it all seems promising, “We aren’t looking for perfection. This program is a change in your lifestyle”.

So anyways, are you an Army Officer at the moment then?

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