I do. I mean, it’s strange but I feel as if everyone exists for a reason. It’s like God made us like his dolls to play with. We all have this characteristics, personality, life stories, and it just fits… even for celebrities, for example, michael jackson, he exists because he has to exist in this world, it’s just meant to be, it was just natural that he got famous, his style, his image, everything just fits his part. No one can replace him. Every one plays a role in this world, we’re all here because we’re supposed to exist. it just feels right.
It is a relative concept. Things meant to be the way they were simply because they happened. I believe in free-will but I also believe that any decision any of us make, good or bad, will lead us to the same ultimate destiny. Basically there is a beginning and an end, regardless of the infinite possibilities between.
there is nothing that i am meant to do. no higher power has a predetermined path for me. I do what i mean to, and i have control over what path my life will take, for the most part at least. I am no doll to be played with. This is what i choose to believe, one because i like this idea, and two, it makes more sense to me, given what i know.
for me i do believe in destiny simply because i believe free will does not exist. I think free will is just an illusion that humans came up with so their actions has some kind of purpose. Every cause has some kind of effect and these effects then becomes causes.
I think we are here to learn something, and we can choose how we do it, but we learn the lesson in the end. The end will not necessarily be planned specifically, and the journey is definitely not predetermined, but we learn the what we need to learn nevertheless.
In other words, we have a purpose, but we choose how we arrive and what it looks like when we get there.
I’ve gotta say that if someone disagreeing with you means they are an ass in your eyes, there is a problem there. Everyone has a right to share their opinion, especially when asked for it.
As for “everything happening for a reason” I think that is true and not true. Do I think fate exists and that everything is pre-determined like a puzzle with some divine type of influence? Absolutely not. But we can take whatever happens and make the best of it, or in other words, create our own reasons and circumstances. For example, something not going the way you originally planned may look bad on the surface but often times opens the door for something better that would not have happened otherwise(if your eyes are open to it). So did the failure in plans happen for a reason? Only if you make it that way.
I believe in your other post “Our Consciousness” you stated you were atheist. Kind of conflicting you mention God here, is it not?
Anyways, I believe that there is a path because we did not decide to be born into this world, it happened beyond our control. We are the sperm that made it to the egg, yet we had no influence over that, we were in the path of least resistance I suppose.
But we now have the power of choice and I think it works 50/50, just as everything else in nature requires balance.
Entropy is a type destiny that everything will go from order to disorder, but there are things that can be done to prolong it.
EDIT-by path I meant that of nature, not claiming any god laid it out.
I believe we are put in situations at certain points in our lives, and we can make what we want to out of them. But I disagree with the idea that we are some higher power’s playthings.
That idea always made me mad at church. That is not the kind of God I believe in.
I guess I believe in destiny, but I don’t believe in destiny.
All I know is the “God” or whatever I believe in is good. I don’t know her/his/it’s name, but I know who it is. I know the character of the higher power I choose to believe in. I think there are too many beautiful, wonderful, miraculous things that happen and exist to not believe that there is someone or something somewhere that wants us to not suffer through life, nor worship through life, but be mesmerized.
Have a great day!
personally, I feel that none of it matters because in the end, we all die. For whatever purpose we’re put on this earth, it all leads to death. So for me, it’s about living each day to the fullest. Whether there’s a God, I don’t know, and I don’t care. Where I end up after this life, I’ll find out when I get there. “God” supposedly knows the nature of my heart and every thought before I think it, therefore, no worries on my part. The only thing that is destined, is being me to the fullest extent.
Believing in destiny or not believing in destiny are simply two perspectives on the same thing.
Is the earth round or spherical?
Is time slow or fast?
@james Things will happen as they do. If you choose that you do not want to see a meaning in them, then that is your choice. And therefore, for you, there is no destiny.
@gingy Things will happen as they do. If you choose to see how they interrelate and contribute toward a greater purpose, then that is your choice. Therefore, for you, there is such thing as destiny. Your life is simply about finding your purpose, and then fulfilling it.
No one is right or wrong here. But a final thought:
“He who says he can and he who says he can’t are both right.”
Are you asking about Destiny, or Fate?
Fate is an unavoidable conclusion that you will one day meet no matter what choices you make.
Destiny is a predefined though not necessarily understood goal for you that you must work and strive to achieve.
Scientifically, I believe in fate. The beginning of the universe was like a stacked triangle of billiard balls. Some event occurred as the Que ball was struck by a pool stick, sending the balls out in seemingly random patterns. However, the balls are not moving randomly, but moving according the predefined physics that cannot be changed without the intervention of whoever struck the Que Ball.
Spiritually, I believe in destiny. There’s nothing to say that you can only have one destiny. There are many people who can feel from birth that there is an incredible task they must undertake. Sometimes, this is a result of the events that have already been placed before you. For example, Joseph Kennedy was one of the wealthiest men in his day. He used this wealth to not only advance his agenda, but he also used it to establish a dynasty that would effect the country and the world. For whatever you can say about the Kennedy’s, Joseph’s son John F. Kennedy, after the death of his brother Joseph Jr., felt it was his destiny to become a world leader. And of course, he became president of the United States. This is an obvious example, as Joseph Sr. had the resources to back his sons to the hilt and the influence to put them in the right places. But it still befell JFK to take advantage of the circumstances before him and achieve his destiny.
I leave with this probably true story:
Oda Nobunaga, arguably the greatest warlord in history, was faced with a near impossible battle before him. His troops were nervous and unsure of victory. So Nobunaga said to them: “I will pray in a nearby shrine and flip a coin. If it’s heads, we will win. If it is tails, we will retreat.” He prayed, flipped his coin, and it came up heads. His army went to battle and won against all odds. After the battle, one of Nobunaga’s Generals said to him “It is a good thing fate was on our side.” Nobunaga responded “Men decide their own fate.” and handed his General the double headed coin he used.
I think both predetermined, and self-made destinies are real. You as an individual have free choice to do anything at any given moment. But there are guidelines that you will follow. You have no choice of where you are born, your parents, your capacity, your limitations in general, but you have the choice to push them however far you can. Of course, considering gravity, maybe everything is falling into place, wherever they should be.
The destiny question always makes me just ask, “Well, What is free will then?”
NO , maybe there is no denying that you can not decide your bron , the present situation ,but you can change everything you can through your hard-working. No one is written your destiny for you, because you write you own destiny ,you make you own future .
there’s a very delicate balance between destiny and creating your own path… something that has to do with you will to be who you want to be and how your talents shape your individuality. you really didn’t expect Michael Jordan to be a Major League Baseball player, did you?
To every action there is a reaction. That’s why I believe that everything is predetermined. Not in some sort religious way. But the fact that Big Bang theory is the most plausible creation theory and materia works like a game of marbles.
If you want to know how the universe will lok like in the next moment you better have the correct mathematical variables so that you can work it out.
Yeah, like I said, the universe is a huge game of Pool. Although a friend of mine turned me on to a theory about god. It was that if the universe started as a singularity, something had to “influence” it to make it undergo the transformation to the Big Bang. Although there’s now some debate among the community as to whether the traditional view of the Big Bang Theory is accurate or not. Still, someone had to pick up the Pool Stick, unless we’re in a KPax situation where the universe is in an eternal cycle of explosion and implosion.
But that’s for science. Spirituality is a much trickier subject.