Do you believe in the human race?

Anonymous (@) 8 years, 1 month ago

There’s been such a big demographic explosion in the last 50 years alone. There are people everywhere, there are opinions everywhere. There are wars, yet there are charities. There are useless and senseless deaths, murders, etc., yet we hear all of the time stories of people rescuing others in almost noble ways. There are people so stupid that they get awarded for removing themselves from the world and speeding up the process of natural selection (Darwin awards for those of you that haven’t heard of them), and yet our scientists are learning more and more every single day. So what I want to know, because I can’t figure it out for myself even after years of thinking about this, is whether or not there is hope for the human race? Can we come together and make a better and more amazing world? Or are we going to mess this up completely? Any thoughts, positive or negative, would be appreciated

October 23, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, I will say this; Even the ignorant will arrive at wisdom, if only by exhausting all other options.

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Anonymous (5) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@trek79 but what if arriving at wisdom comes too late?

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I’m always asking myself what will happen if every single person in the world waited for someone else to restore their faith in humanity for them. Then I fear that it’s actually happening.

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Anonymous (0) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, Just focus on what you can do. All this is just speculation and the reason you couldn’t figure it out is because well you can’t. It still hasn’t played out. I do have faith mostly because of the internet and how easy it is to raise consciousness through it. Say we do get our shit together and create a whole new system where every single human being can flourish well that’s going to be an amazing time to live in. But if we don’t and we continue on this path of destruction and we end up killing ourselves than oh well, right?

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Anonymous (30) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

The odds are with us. I know.( : BUT, with every moment comes infinite possibilities. If we all look for truth we will bring a heaven to earth. Read this TruthContest.Com The Present with Religion. Trust me this isn’t some belief system (BS), it even talks about Darwin so I figured I should share it with you.

Also, if you haven’t already… I’ve been mindblown with Joseph Campbell & the power of myth.

& on youtube check out a documentary called Thrive & after watch The Venus Project.

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Anonymous (5) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@beyond, if we can’t rely on humans to restore our faith in humanity then who can we rely on?

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Anonymous (5) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@soulnatural, I liked what the truth contest thing says about the necessity for science! as an atheist that’s always been important to me
& thanks for those suggestions! im getting on that now :)

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TJ (57) (@Justus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg The human race must know what it shouldn’t be to be able to compare it to what it should be. There must be “stupid” for there to be “smart”, for there would be nothing to call “smart” without it. A necessary evil.

To answer the question: Yes. With the help of the internet, I think more people will see the corruption of government, and eventually we shall prevail in a glorious period of realization.

Whether that will be tomorrow or the sun will explode first, I do not know, however(:

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, Lack of wisdom makes people weak, nature has its own checks and balances. People fail to see how natural selection translates on the human level but it becomes survival of the wisest.

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Anonymous (127) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@trek79, you are a wise man

@ginnyg, what is “too late” to you? what “faith” is necessary? what IS necessary?

have you considered these question or no?

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, I think that when times get bad enough we will rally together to fix things just before it’s too late. It’s going to play out just like a movie.


@beyond
, awesome!

@ginnyg, don’t wait for someone else to step up for what you believe in. That’s what I got from what @beyond said

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Jonathan Toniolo (486)M (@toniolo) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, I would say so. I think people are fundamentally good but have been conditioned by the capitalist culture they’re brought up in to be competitive and greedy. Like @trek79 said, it is only a matter of time before ignorance, by and large, becomes a burden on such massive scale that anyone who is ignorant will pay heavily for it. The internet has changed everything. Exposing many of the government’s injustices has inspired young, up and coming politicians for radical change (such as Gary Johnson and the like)-not to mention the transparency that the internet provides for these politicians. When dealing with future politics, no one will be able to hide anything anymore. Just notice the number of whistle blowers persecuted in just this last decade alone. Big brother and the mainstream media see the threat and are trying their hardest to make propaganda aimed at condemning truth seekers. So yeah I think that most future leaders will have to think twice before placing their own interests above the interest of the people. And in regards again to the apparent apathetic, ignorant public, they’ll come around. They’re too comfortable to care now but when they start to become inconvenienced by the system at hand, they’ll look for alternatives and hopefully stumble upon some ideas like those tossed around on this site.

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Jonathan Toniolo (486)M (@toniolo) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Also, I recommend everyone see ‘The Fifth Estate’. Awesome movie.

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg Well, you have all the potential of everyone you’ve ever known. We’re of the same kind as Joni mitchell who is stardust, and carl sagan who is starstuff, so we are both stardust and starstuff.

And we’re of the same kind as all the killers and rapists. as those enslaved and those slavemasters. as homophobes and bigots.

Right now, both of us could be arrested in kentucky and indonesia for not believing in god. Muslim women are killed for honor in the u.s., pakistan, afghanistan, and india. there are people in the world who want to kill me and all my queer friends. So some kill themselves. Abusive parents. Psychopathic children. Cucumber facials.

But we’re thinking things! we can learn. We can empathize, and sometimes we do what we can to alleviate someone’s pain because we know what it’s like. Because we feel their pain. And we can put our heads together, act within our limits, and think of goals and do what we can to achieve them. All of the people that work to eradicate these problems, do so to build a better future. Because while one person can change the world, it doesn’t mean that they will. But they can do what they can.

So many sad things in this world. If we don’t do something, no one will, and things will go on as they are. It just takes some thinking to realize how there are people you’ve never met that have changed your life for the better.

Women weren’t able to vote in all these places until a few people got together and decided they had to do something. the thoughts and work of a few on hygiene have increased our lifespan. We wouldn’t be alive if it weren’t for our parents.

There are countless examples. So we do what we can because we have to. Because of the countless problems that we face. Because we know suffering.

For all of us. for sparta.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

No

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Kyle (27) (@kylerbbrowning) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, Damn straight there is

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, Hope for what? Do you believe there is a purpose for the human race as a whole? I do not believe in this. Since each individual has different perspectives on what is and should be right or wrong, we will never be able to form a collective idea by which we will all conform. There is survival and I believe the strongest species (strongest in the least literal meaning of the word) will survive and continue to live.

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James (1) (@Quincy) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg,
I can’t blame anyone else for the kind of world we live in.
Be the change that is all you can control.

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Anonymous (57) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, Game it up.

All the habitable planets in the universe are in a race to produce complexity capable of universal mastery.
I feel as far as progress can go, in the last 10,000 years earth has rocked it. I’d imagine there was room for improvement, but i’d say short of the mass extinctions our lifeforms complexity would still put our planets progress in relative contention for dominance in the race, or at least put in a valiant sprint after falling over a couple of hurdles early on.
Strongly feel religion and borders need to go, and with them would come an age of tech advancement that would effectively unlock everything needed for 3D printing to cover food/shelter, if that tech gets streamlined, fuck. With the advancements in solar energy alongside, there will be chunks of the population capable of living well off with no need for income, the inventors and polymaths to start spawning from a lifes access to the worlds accumulated knowledge with easy access on the internet and unlimited access to food enable full thought suppression of basic need panics. These dudes are going to start putting our own accumulated intelligence’s shame and when quantum computing kicks off in combination with natures prime complexity advancement, the universe will be our ouster.

The other planets will surely be having their own problems, we just need to hold it together, it doesn’t have to be pretty, history doesn’t give a fuck about the minor details.

TLDR: Basic Needs 100% confirmed in mind, with no threat of loss. = Peace.
No religious arguments, or hatred for where one was born, or in what body. = Peace.
Peace = Clear Mind.
Clear Mind = Enlightenment
Enlightenment = Technological Advancement.
Technological Advancement = Win.
The goal of any game is to win.
You Just Lost The Game.

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Anonymous (5) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Thank you all for your input! I really appreciate it

@optimystic
, I think that too late is when we’ve reached a point where we can’t go back from the damage we’ve caused. Faith, to me as an atheist, is necessary only when it lies in something clearly existing, such as humans. But can we justify a faith in something as flawed as the human species? That I don’t know yet.
@reainvented2012, I need to know how we can get everyone together!! It seems like something that’s just out of reach- all we have to do is move closer one step and we can get it.

@toniolo
, I really like your ideas, they make a lot of sense. One day, everything politicians decide will have to be clear to us thanks to technology, and the government won’t be able to be corrupt.

@mallorn
, what I got from that was we can either make the best place ever or just flop XD let’s all hope we can make the best place ever

@josephm
and @kylerbbrowning, why do you two think so? you have two opposing views

@filipek
, whether or not we actually have a purpose in this universe, which tbh I don’t think we do, I think that since we’re here we have to make the most of it and I want to know if there’s hope for us making earth as good as we can (good as a concept defined by today’s society)
@lexovix. technology has the potential to go either way, know what I mean? I like your optimism though, thank you!!

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, There is always hope

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Epiphileon (25) (@Epiphileon) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I’m sorry I haven’t read all the responses yet,; I wanted to get to this though while it was still relatively fresh.
@ginnyg,
“Do you believe in the human race?” No, I think it is a misnomer, I think we are highly evolved naked apes, and our behavior is still largely determined by ancient, unconscious, co-evolutionarily, developed strategies of behavior, that although highly adaptive until relatively recently, have become the potential doom of homo sapiens.
I do believe in, The Race for Human; however, we are currently running seriously behind, and many of the current social trends do not show us making the necessary adjustments to catch up (so to speak).
Hope for the winning of this race lay best in accepting a natural explanation for what we are, why we do the things we do, and a concerted effort to understand the natural/physical nature of consciousness in order to tap its potential to break the chains binding us to evolutionary strategies that are destined to destroy us if left unchecked.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@reinvented2012, Yep. Blaming someone else for my own lack of humanity doesn’t feel right.

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fucksake (26) (@fucksake) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Dont care, chill , enjoy the ride as much as you can

I kind of feel this world is just a pit stop, or that you will end up being everyone and everything anyway . I also think the idea of a “perfect world” is unnatainable , evolution or death isnt good or bad , it just is.

We will die one way or another, the real curse would be to live forever as the same consciousness, instead of having new experience . Do what you want, personally i think the world is more civil and easier to live in than ever before

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Anonymous (127) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@ginnyg, and how are you supposed to know when that “point” is? also, why is faith required for things obviously in existence? (doesn’t that seem redundant to you?) finally, there’s no real reason to justify faith in anything; it’s something you have, or not; there’s no need for it and no way to prove that “faith” is right or wrong

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