Since most of us are either in high school or college, I was wondering if you guys feel the same? I know GPA does matter when you apply for a job after you graduate but I like to live in the present moment. My GPA just doesnt matter in the present moment because all it is to me is a number which is why I dont give a shit about it. As long as my brain is healthy, I know that I’ll be successful where ever I go. Dont get me wrong, I love learning (even materials that I’m not interested in) but I like to learn it my own way rather than letting my professor/teacher dictate how I should learn.
Depending on what you’re learning, a GPA can be or is important. I’m also of the mindset that as long as I learn something, I feel satisfied with my performance in class, but on the other hand, a GPA is an important factor for someone attempting to program a computer or perform surgery or advise you on legal actions. A GPA in these fields of study are indicators of how well you understand your material, and how qualified you are. So no, GPA’s are certainly not anything to stress over, but at the same time it is impossible to say that they are not important in life.
Well keeping a high GPA can help in getting scholarships, and in getting internships that lead to jobs.
Man, I feel that.
Being in a science intensive program taught me that there will always be someone who is so much smarter, harder-working, more driven, more dedicated, and will still be able to party harder than you or me. The GPA is more of a monitor for your self-progress; A number that matters to you only until you stop caring about it.
The terrible thing about it is how some employers see employees in terms of numbers, paychecks, and liabilities.
I wonder that same thing lately. I’m a junior in hs right now, clawing my way out. As far as I’m concerned we are living a dean’s world where jobs, employers and society only see you as a dollar sign. sad but i feel it is true. i’d say GPA is only important if it is important to yourself. and i know that is such a cliche answer. i have dirt shit GPA right now, but i’m striving to do better because i want the ability to just know i could do it. I guess where I’m going with this is, it all depends on you and what you want to do. I don’t look at my GPA as a threat but as something to challenge myself with. i love a good challenge as much as the next person. i could give a shit on what college or what job i have at this point. the government is fucking us all anyway right? So I’ll end on that. Hope the best for you all!
@1love, It’s cool that you live in the present moment and all, but sometime down the line adult you may look back and say “Dude…wtf were you thinking?”
Not trying to judge or lecture you, just saying that I’ve been out of college for 4 years and there have already been way too many times when I’ve said that.
@1love, back when I was in Uni I never really cared about my GPA. Sure, they do help with recognitions, job and such but I was too busy interacting with people in college (and it doesn’t necessarily mean I was too busy partying and all that jazz but just busy experiencing people and moments). I used to care a lot about my grades but then…talent speaks for itself. Most of the people who graduated top of my class aren’t really exploding in the art scene or doing something remotely close to art (I’m a Fine Arts graduate BTW) – at least, I can genuinely say I am still in my field, creating art, still interacting with old and new friends. Couldn’t be happier and I don’t regret one single failed grade.
Even though I’m against the idea of GPA and I’ve always hated it, GPA matters to me..quite a lot. I just think it’s easier to get through life when you don’t have to worry about your GPA all the time. My school is really competitive and people rarely learn for the sake of it. It’s just hard to keep up if I stopped caring about GPA.
I really wish I didn’t have to.
In my first year of college it mattered alot because my friends all thought GPA were important but frankly the effort put to studying for high grades seemed way to inefficient maybe it’s just me but just working for 100% the closer you are to aceing a test the more effort must be put in for each % closer to 100. I must also conclude that being a C student doesn’t really satisfy me either makes me feel like i’m wasting my money whether or not I’m learning alot or not.
Unfortunately, I do. Not in the way that I stress out about it incessantly, but I strive to keep it high, for the sake of future acceptance into medical school. However, I’ve found that if I strive to just learn the material the best I can, I can forget about GPA without bringing it down.
@donjaime23, I feel you. There has been times when I look back and ask myself the same question regarding other aspects in my life. However, my dont care attitude for my GPA flows very well with my deterministic ideology. I guess it depends on your field of study which may require extensive knowledge on the topic especially in areas like health and science. I have proven that I can achieve a high GPA many times if I try and apply myself but to do that I must sacrifice a part of my youth which decays everyday. My current GPA is a 3.0 which I believe is good enough to get me a descent job but working for someone else after graduation is my plan b.
Here is a quote from the Dalai Lama that perfectly explains why I just dont care as much as I should about my grades:
Reporter: “What thing about humanity surprises you the most?”
Dalai Lama: “Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices his money to recuperate his health.
Then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present, and as a result he does not live in the present or the future.
He lives as if he’s never going to die, and then he dies having never really lived.”
Of course…unfortunately no measurement exists that allows employers to see the potential inside you..therefore numbers and physical creations are the medium that expresses what you have to offer.
GPA is pretty damn important. If you are too late to work on a decent GPA number..don’t let that oppress your creativity. In all reality..GPA is a number as a result of how well you did on tests. It is not an accurate gauge of potential.
If you don’t have a great GPA…you can still become successful.
@1love, I totally feel u. I’m a freshmen in college right now and i didn’t get to pick my classes for this semester cuz i applied as undecided. what’s worst is that they don’t interest me!!! But at the same time if i wana transfer my GPA’s my only way out.
So on one hand i don’t give a fuck and just wana enjoy the ride after such a tough 12th grade and on the other hand i wana do well to get into a uni where i cna be doing stuff i enjoy.
At this point, I say fuck ur GPA. Try to actually learn and broaden your mind instead of hooking on to a number.
I also totally agree with what you said about not being worried as long as ur brain’s healthy. Don’t worry about getting a job, if you’re passionate enough about what you’re studying you’ll make ur own job. And remember, not everyone’s an academic person.
The educational system is so crap nowadays that it doesn’t teach us anymore, it molds us to fit what society wants from us. The educational system is another way (and one of the main ways) for society to control us, stay aware and awake. I don’t know about you guys, but personally i’m not willing to give up my education for that. As long as we all stay healthy and open minded, we’re gooooood :D
The thing about GPA in college is that the majority of your grade depend on tests. For example, the grade in my econ class is base solely on 3 exams. No homework, no projects, and no assignments; just 225 mins of test taking, total. For me at least, I don’t learn the material by taking tests, I learn it by doing homework and projects that can be applied to the ‘real world’. With homework and projects, I have a lot of time to research and figure out the solution my own way, where on the other hand, you have a certain time limit when taking tests which can inhibit one to solve the questions effectively. Also in the real world, if you don’t know a certain equation on top of your head, there is always a book or better yet Google that you can look it up. However, when you are taking exams, if you dont know that specific equation or misplace that one variable, you are completely fucked for the next couple questions.
During finals week, all students do is cram the massive amount of material of their classes in a short period. This is not efficient when the point of education is to learn. This is why adderall is just a big drug in college. Once you cram all this material in, the majority of it will be forgotten as soon as the week after, due to information overload. I would agree that GPA matters if you are looking to work under somebody as it is a modest measurement of how much you know in your specific field, but the way its calculated is extremely flawed. Also because your GPA depends so much on these tests, cheating has become a serious issue especially since most tests these days are in a scantron format. 1 out of 4 of my classes, the forms are EXACTLY the same! Even if the forms are different, it is still easy to cheat and get away with it. America’s education is going downhill while China has a extremely vigorous educational system.
With the current trends, I have no doubt in my mind that China will become the worlds next super power, and my prediction is that it will happen within the next 20 years. Better start learning mandarin.
I am going into to a health related field. It doesn’t really amtter to me what grades i get in my classes as long as i am able to retain all of the information that will be useful to me. Usually I am able to harness all of the information in time to take the test so my grades end up being good. My goal in the end is to help people, not impress people. It is important to have good grades in order to get into any of the therapy programs or medical school so I try to to get good grades for that reason. The most important reason to be in school is to learn something that you will be able to use in order to do what you want to do. Stressing about GPA is silly. So are resumes in general though.
I hate even the idea of a GPA. Mines not great and yea that must mean something right? I haven’t figured out what yet, but frankly it shouldn’t matter. We shouldn’t have to be judged by a number rather than a personality & a skill set. The GPA is so fucking dysfunctional because it keeps inperfect, real people in the background. It doesn’t measure the person. It measures someone else’s thought about your schooling and how would they know?
But the fact of the matter is it matters. No matter how much we don’t want it to, it does in the corporate world. In the money world. I stress myself out about my shitty grades but sometimes it’s really not even worth it. I’m basically in the mode of you take it or you leave it. So people can either judge me by a number or they can judge me for me. Either way they are going to judge you. I guess it comes down to what kind of world are you living in and what kind of world will your job take you to? It’s your own choice in what kind of world you want to end up in.
My GPA is pretty damn good. Though, that is without trying on my part. My lack of an effort is enough to get me good grades in high school. Clearly the system is fucked. My effort is below average but my reward is above average. There are kids for who it is the other way around. There are smart kids failing because the system fails. There are dumb kids passing. It’s such BS.
I mean, Einstein got F’s in high school. Hitler got A’s. So why do people act like it matters? I’m not saying we’re all Einsteins and Hitlers, but grades are a terrible judge of not only intelligence, but character as well.
@breynolds1633, Dude, I felt the exact same way junior year of hs. I had an ok GPA, but since everyone seemed to equate a high GPA with intelligence and I knew I was intelligent, I wanted to see if I could raise my GPA to straight A’s, just to see if I could do it. I did it! It felt good to know that I can do what I set my mind to, that’s what a good GPA meant to me. I don’t actually think it has any true link to intelligence as there are so many types of human intelligence. I don’t always trust that I’ll act in line with my goals, so that felt good to do well in school. It’s so not real life, though. Ugh
I was watching Dateline last night and they aired a story where a school also graded a students character which they say is as important as their GPA. Its called Character Point Average aka CPA and once it was implemented, it showed amazing results. You can check out a video about CPA here (this is not the dateline story I saw last night): http://yourbottomline.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/beyond-gpas-character-point-average/