Do you really need a college degree to get a decent job?

Kayla (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago

Seriously? School seems like a waste of time to me. I just want a full time job with decent pay. I don’t even want to be rich, just comfortable. Not fast food. Don’t get smart.

I have my associates, but my life is getting real boring and I’m getting tired of school.

I need opinions/people in similar dilemmas :/

January 22, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Phil (83) (@urbanuncia) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

First ask yourself what interests you, what activities do you enjoy, and how you could better use your time. Supply & Demand, if you provide a service that no one else can provide and you can figure out a way to market that service you have yourself a job.

In my opinion, no you don’t need a college degree to get a good job, in fact it could be very counterproductive if you find out later that you spent all that money and time on college, only to see that you only took an engineering degree because there “was money in that field”.

No thank you, I’ll learn more about myself first than restrict myself for four years in the same place.

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Max Nachamkin (170)C (@feren6) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, No you don’t need a college degree to get a full time job. If you’re smart and hard-working, you can out hustle anyone with a college degree. It might take some momentum at first, but with the right attitude you can do it.

Check these two books out: http://www.amazon.com/Good-They-Cant-Ignore-You/dp/1455509124/ (haven’t read this one, but I hear AMAZING things about it..and Cal Newport is one of my favorites)

and most importantly..

Never Eat Alone – http://www.amazon.com/Never-Eat-Alone-Secrets-Relationship/dp/0385512058/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358904295&sr=1-1&keywords=never+eat+alone

Hard work + Intelligence + Making connections with the right people = Screw college. I don’t regret going to college because I learned a lot about myself, but in terms of educational value, I could have easily learned everything on my own.

It won’t be easy, but you CAN do it.

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AmeeVee (5) (@ameevee) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258,

Even with my Bachelor’s degree, I do not have a ‘decent’ job.

That is why I am currently getting my Master’s degree. Yay, more school.

My advice is to get a useful 2 year degree, like Cosmetology.
Or a useful 4 year degree, like Accounting.

I chose Psychology :(

I(f you are TRULY a people person who is OUTGOING and would not mind networking with others for the rest of your life, you could probably make it work. Never burn a bridge! Keep up with people!!!!)

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@ameevee, Yeah my original plan I was going for a bachelor’s in psychology. I feel like people look at degrees too much and I have some experience and I’m a very quick learner, I feel like college is a waste of time and I could just do better hands on learning.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I’m also concerned if there’s a way of not being involved with a mindless waste of time.

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AmeeVee (5) (@ameevee) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258,

It seems for women there are a lack of hands-on options. You could be a secretary! Or a nurse!

But what if you want to build things??

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Anonymous (359) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I am in the same dilemma and I do see a big difference here between someone who enjoys and feels confident networking and someone who is more withdrawn like myself. But the waste of time and money is so unappealing to me that I consider learning those manipulation skills to support myself

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, If you’re going to college in hopes of getting a job right out of it, DON’T GET AN ARTS OR BUSINESS DEGREE. There are sooooo many people who do, expecting to graduate into a nice job, and they don’t, because they are all filled. There is more supply of graduate students then there is a demand in those fields.

However, I will contridict myself a bit here. There are some things that you NEED a degree for. Like doctors, engineers, psychologists… So if you want to do one of those things, suck it up and go to school.

But there are plenty of jobs that you don’t need a degree for. Like the people above have said, network, build your skills by yourself, and then market yourself. If you know the right people, it can work beautifully, even better then a college graduate.

What do you like doing? What do you want to do for work? (Better yet, what do you like doing for fun, and how can you get paid for it)

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Anonymous (359) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, There are also really good paying associated degrees you can get such as radiologic and respiratory therapy and since you already have your 2 yr degree you might only have a couple semesters left to do one of those specializations.

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Well, here’s the thing. My sister works at the SPCA and absolutely loves her job. She gets to go on a 3 day conference in the summer at the beach. Me, on the other hand, let’s just say my job isn’t as fun. Now, I know work is work and I’m not necessarily looking for a fun job, just one that I wouldn’t mind going to. I would love a job that requires some travel, I LOVE being outside, and I love astronomy. (I could have gotten a degree in astronomy if I could pass algebra) I feel stuck and don’t know where to start.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xyver, “So if you want to do one of those things, suck it up and go to school.” The reason I applied studying psychology in the first place. Although I must stress the word “mindless” more, because I was thinking of quitting. This is not going to be of any help to anyone but I guess I’ll just share what I said to a HEthen (Dan) here earlier about it. It’s a little personal, don’t worry about it, I don’t give a fuck.

“The thing is that I’m studying psychology away from my hometown and I don’t know if my judgment is right about it all, but I feel completely different from how I was before I moved here. It feels like I’ve been spending my time too much being alone where I am and it’s basically by choice, but on the way I somehow lost myself. For example my finals are right now and I didn’t go to my first exam just because I can’t see any future in the whole thing, I’m not sure if I’m even depressed or something or just think like a potential hobo, but instead of studying and going for it I got drunk and keep getting more drunk. There are a few reasons I am doing this. First one, I wanted to try studying psychology to see basically what I am seeing now, if there will be any future in it for me, because I’ve been told by almost everyone I know that I’m good at it, and it’s true, I have some people skills and like helping people, although there’s also a lot of hate inside me about some things and I can’t stand being a hypocrite like all psychologists I ever met – they suck basically, that’s what I’m seeing in my colleagues too and it makes me lose grasp of the whole idea because there’s nothing positive in it. Second one, I stopped making music since I’m here and I don’t even get any inspiration for it while pretending to be something I’m not. I guess I’m just frustrated by my own decision beyond repair if I continue with psychology. Because I can see how it kills my creativity and my intuition, I stopped writing, playing music to express myself emotionally and basically what I like about most in my life. And that… makes me feel like a complete fool. I was even wondering what are the other students here so happy about that they took their exam, there’s no pass or guarantee for a great future in perspective about it than a little personal victory that doesn’t help anyone. Go, go good student doing what you’re told? I don’t get it.”

Wisdom escapes my brain capacity for this.

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Alexi Lewis (5) (@hartmut133r) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Most of the useful knowledge I gained throughout my time in school was not even gained in school, it was through people I knew that had first hand experience in whatever I learned from them. Whatever knowledge I continue to gain now is through personal study. So no, I don’t think that schooling is necessary.

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theonlybman (3) (@futurechoes) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Decent job? They still have those?

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Matthew (16) (@tweibaby) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, The answer, purely and simply, is yes. And school is stupid expensive, and you will have to bust ass, but after you get a degree, you will never need to work that hard again..
But without a degree, your resume ends up getting tossed before they even finish reading it, because there are 50 other resumes and 30 of them have a degree..

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Matthew (16) (@tweibaby) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Or you can do what I do and “start your own business” which is rewarding and all, you just end up making no money, and needing to spend alot of it..

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, the short answer is no, you don’t need a college degree to get a decent job or live comfortably. I wish when I was younger nobody had sold me that crock about college, and just said find something you like and learn to do it EXTREMELY well. Then you can start your own business around it. Instead, I have a college degree in something I don’t like at all, and am at square 1 with the stuff that I really like. I wish I could have a reset button.

And I second what @xyver, said – I have a Bachelor’s in Business Administration, and it isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Not to mention I absolutely can’t stand the thought of spending the rest of my life in a corporate environment.

You said:

“I would love a job that requires some travel, I LOVE being outside, and I love astronomy. (I could have gotten a degree in astronomy if I could pass algebra) I feel stuck and don’t know where to start.”

Look for jobs based around those things that you like and see what’s required. You might find that it does take some college after all, but if you like what you’re doing and aren’t overly concerned with money then I don’t see the problem. It sounds like you know what you enjoy already, and I would say the first thing you should do is know yourself and what you love to do. This will help you decide what action to take, and if you do in fact decide to go to college, it will save you money and time. The next step, I’d say, is that if you truly love astronomy, you might have to tough it out through algebra. It’s true that nothing good comes easy, so you may have to work through some tough courses before getting to the ones you really want. Best of luck to you!

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Kyle (131) (@kyle) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, No you don’t. You need chrisma, ambition, common sense and creativity. Just so happens that’s what school can not teach.

Here is 100 people who succeeded without a degree.
http://www.youngentrepreneur.com/blog/100-top-entrepreneurs-who-succeeded-without-a-college-degree/

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Edward Bernays (131) (@edwardbernays) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Steve Jobs didn’t have a college degree, I hear he had an okay job.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, No. Relying on the label of a degree to get a safe, steady job is what people who have failed at life do (I am generalizing here, there are always exceptions). They are so indoctrinated into this system we live in that all their creative potential is zapped. So they follow the plan set up for them, go through the motions, all withouth ever having to think or truly use their mind the entire time.

If you are a true human being, which to me is: someone who’s thoughts and actions truly come from themsleves. They don’t rely on a system (the shithole we call society) to direct their lives. They are creative, driven, and know their purpose in life. They are awake and free. If you can break away from the conditioning of how to act and think, you can do whatever you want. At least that’s why I am coming to learn.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@beyond, Well, it sounds like you picked it without having passion in it, and since its not what you really wanted, you’re now bored. I don’t mean suck it up and go to school for the sake of going to school, I mean that if what you really want to do requires a degree (I’m going to be Tony Stark when I grow up) then you have to suck it up and go to school. I like engineering school, its challenging.

@kayla147258, Algebra’s not that bad, check out khanacademy, brush up a bit, and go be an astronomer! Travel around outside catolouging the stars!

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xyver, Oh, I’m just a pussy.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@beyond, Aren’t we all at some things… :P

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Stoney Baloney (614) (@adamm0ss) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

You could make a million dollars talking to your starwars figures on youtube. School is fucking over-rated these days. Unless you want like a medical job or something that REQUIRES school. You can learn a lot at school, but that is not the only place for learning. One day school will catch up to technology. Maybe.

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dr. hamsa (42) (@s7221919) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Why worry about money? Take what you need and leave the rest. Surround yourself with what you love and be at peace with who you are. How could you ask for anything beyond that? But do educate yourself, there is so much to learn, It will take a life time and every moment will be worthwhile. Sounds like a good life to me : )

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