Does Ego death/Spiritual enlightenment make death easier?

Shia (@Shia) 7 years, 4 months ago

Hi there,

I’ve been reading spirituality and conciousness expanding books and novels for a few years now, but it seems the more I read the more death becomes and more and more prevelent realisation in my life and it is causing me anxiety in my daily life.

I’m curious as to whether ego-deaths, spiritual experiences or whatnot make the understanding of death easier? I dont want to live my life in constant perturbation about my inevitable demise.

Does anyone have experience with this?

February 24, 2015 at 3:49 pm
Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I accept that it is a possibility but I choose not to expect it. I’m not afraid to die but I focus on trusting in my own self-care to regenerate with no time limit. On the other hand some days I feel dead and some days I want to die. I went through a time where I could see no joy or clarity in anything because death seemed to negate all beauty but eventually I allowed that realization to help me understand that I actually really loved life and that’s why I felt devastated. Through meditation and introspection I started to feel the possibility of reincarnation to be almost certain, so everything seems cyclical and I feel that I chose this somehow and will choose it again.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I also used to feel like having a belief about an afterlife was a cop-out for being afraid of death, but the way I currently feel about it is more of an intuition.

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JustinDanger (41) (@JustinDanger) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

No one ever really dies they just leave their body.

Some are Roses,
Some are Thorns,
Justin Danger

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

sometimes I still get a little freaked out by the idea of a violent death, but ultimately I’m not scared of the passing itself. Just a few weeks ago, I thought I had died, as I was lying in bed it felt like my heart stopped, and it was really fucking peaceful. I’m guessing that happened because the idea of death at that time seemed preferable over this exhausting existence. I was definitely not thinking of death as the end, but just really felt the want to go somewhere else. And so I needed that, to remind me that there is peace, and now none of this seems all that bad.

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

What exactly about the idea of death gives you anxiety?

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

If these books hit home for you, it’s very common to experience what we call “death” more direct rather than an idea (something which is going to happen somewhere in the distant future).
When you become more aware of your ego, and therefor the falseness of it, it begins to crack, this can be conscious or unconscious to you.
Basically when you become aware of it, it simultaneously starts to die, so this might be what you feel, it’s a good thing!

Your on the right track, so don’t stop because of fear or anxiety, explore more,further, and fears change in to power, or bliss

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Shia (3) (@Shia) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Could you expand on this? I’ve definately come a long way from the days where I was completely oblivious, or rather ‘blissfully naive’ about all of these things, but I dont understand how these perturbations can become bliss themselves?

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

When you approach upon death (which you do by going in to its concepts), it becomes more visible, so more frightening…
But when you don’t turn your back on your fears, they reveal there hidden treasure to you!
Fear in this sense is not real, it’s there to show you something, to open doors.

See your fear of death as a door you approach, in the past this door was distant, so not that scary, but when you think about it, or you read books that direct or indirect communicate about death, you come closer to this door, and you feel more fear.
If you stop now (which is human, and ok to do so, don’t be to hard on yourself :) ), but still, you stay in this direct -in your face- fear.
The invitation you get from life itself (thats why your interested in these books) is to not stop, and explore further, open this door.

What happens is you gain perspective, which you do not have now, because your looking at a closed door…
When you open it you see whats behind, and your fear of death vanishes.

Everything you ever experienced, or will experience happens now no?
Is there a moment outside of now in which you can experience anything?
(a future or past concept/projection happens now)
So how can death exist?
Death is never experienced, unless your not death, so either way, its unreal :D

But don’t believe me, accept your invitation, and become blissful, and empowered with your new realisation, and expansion.

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John (29) (@JDrifter) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

First off, if anybody claims to know anything about death, they’re lying to you. No living person knows anything about death (how it feels, what happens after, etc.). Secondly, I can really relate to you. Quite recently I’ve been thinking about it so much more, and so much more seriously. It’s like every slight pain I have in my body, I start thinking about my inevitable demise. It’s scary, and you’re not wrong to be afraid. Having a big exposure to the idea of death from reading all these books and listening to all these teachers gives you the great benefit of awareness; awareness of the impermanence of life, which is fantastic. But it’s also terrible. Because now you’re always in your head and you’re always thinking about the things which you know will definitely happen not too far along the way (sickness and death). Just try to be a little ignorant… if you have friends, good, have the best times anyone could ask for. If, like me, you don’t have any friends, just focus on the little things. All the beautiful little things that daily life has to offer.

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Connor Williamson (18) (@Conn) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Coming to terms with death is important. Try to understand that nothing natural lives forever. Our stars, our trees, our planets, our animals, us. We are all getting closer to death in every moment. Its called senescence in people(look it up). If you have anxiety about death then you wont really ever live. You should try meditation and I would avoid seeking ego death until you have come to terms with your anxieties.

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Shia (3) (@Shia) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Would ‘ego-death’ make me worse? I’m still curious on that subject.

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Connor Williamson (18) (@Conn) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

I can’t say one way or another. In most cases the death of ego leads to many enlightening thoughts and experiences. But for some the experience itself can be traumatic. I have never had an ego death in the traditional sense(through drugs or meditation) but in a lucid dream. For somebody to seek an ego death I would say it is important to be well established in yourself that is to say you know who really know and love who you are.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

The death of the ego happens in the Abyss. IF you return then the ego will return with you in a changed form. There is no death of the physical ego as long as you have a corporeal body. Most will disagree of course. This is only my 2 cents.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

It’s amusing when some who don’t know death their self accuse all others of the same ignorance and lack of understanding. I suppose we all tell our self what is and is not…even with no base from actuality. As we cannot get blood from a turnip, so also one person cannot lift the veil for another. (@drifter) No one can say what another may know in some matters of life or death.

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

Hi there Shia, I wonder if you feel a bit better already about your death thing, from all the answers you got?
Or is it still blurry and fearful?

Much Love

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Ghost (9) (@ghost244) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

I’m gonna have to disagree with drifter, just because were alive doesn’t mean we know nothing of death. It is very possible to die and come back, speaking from personal experience. That being said, death and ego death are to very different sensations. If you want some ego death, like some serious ego death where you no longer relate consciousness to your physical body and can no longer speak english because you forget what words are and only think conceptually, then go do some Ketamine or take a huge dose of DXM. (disclaimer: dont actually do this, both of these things are dangerous.)
Ego death and physical death are not the same. I know there is all of this research about mushrooms and cancer patients and thats all well and good, but helping someone cope with death by helping them relieve some emotional baggage(which is primarily what clinical therapeutic psychedelic experience is) is not really the same as given someone a glimpse into the afterlife.
That being said, Ego death will not make you any less frightened of dying, sorry, it just wont, it may make you look at it differently, but your brain is wired naturally to do anything in its power to avoid death, the moment it comes, no matter how at peace you are, is still going to be scary unless you die in your sleep.
But i will offer you this little gem, Dying is going to be the most horrific, joyful, ecstatic experience of your life(lol).

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 3 months ago ago

There simply is no ego death below the supernal triad. Few ever reach the level of the great outer abyss. Even in an astral, mental, and spiritual body we still have an ego below Daath. This is why a deep understanding of kabalah helps us on the path to understanding.

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