Dragon Stories and the Ego.

TheAppetizer (@TheAppetizer) 6 years, 11 months ago

So a little while back i was smoking and thinking about dragons (classic right?) i started to think about how dragons sprung up in stories and myths. My thought process went a little like this; a dragon is a big, scaly, bat winged, sharp toothed, fire breathing hell beast. They are just a lot of scary things put into one idea. I feel that this is synonymous with one’s fear of themselves and egos maybe? or more specific, our ego’s defense mechanisms. Now dragons are often associated with guarding some sort of treasure. How does one get this treasure? Easy, face your fears and destroy your ego. When one succeeds he/she becomes knighted. I think of this as sort of, transcending normalcy and entering a higher state of being. So by slaying our egos we are able to receive the treasure waiting for us and become knights. And I think of the treasure as being a greater appreciation of things that you already have, increasing their value in a sense. 

This is just my take on the whole dragons allegory. Id love to hear other people’s take on it, or elaborate on what i have here. Eager to hear your thoughts

P.S. “How to Train Your Dragon” is a  kids movie on how to tame one’s ego. By being gentle, showing love and kindness we are able to use our ego for the greater good

July 18, 2015 at 1:51 pm
deepblue (0) (@deepblue) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

In my own experience, I have found that a lot of symbols or ideas we would consider fantastic have a deep rooted origin in the collective subconscious. I think I remember reading somewhere of a myth or symbol which was found to occur in more than one tradition in completely different cultures in completely different locations ( …. can’t remember the exact incidence now, maybe you’ll have to Google it).

But basically, symbols or ideas which are generated in the collective subconscious arise as a result of stimuli or transmissions from the higher universal structures. These symbols and ideas then filter down into the individual human minds, where they are refracted by biases like experience, religion and culture. Often, the ideas still come out of the other end in very similar form, such as the image/phenomenon of the lizard-type dragon. But in some other minds they get refracted a bit more severely and assume slight or extreme modifications, such as vampires, serpents, and other types of phobias/inspirations.

Just my two cents based on some of my own understanding of the universal mind structure/human collective intelligence. I don’t know if this resonates with you.

TheAppetizer (49) (@TheAppetizer) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

it most certainly does. What youre describing sounds a lot like Carl Jung’s archetypes. If you hadnt heard of it you should definitely look into it 

JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I think it could be viewed that way, as a great analogy, but I do doubt that is the dragon’s mythical origin…
I believe that, like many things, people have a feeling that there is always more out there – that something more is happening. That all that is to be seen is not all that is to exist. Thus we create Gods, we create magic, we create aliens, we create creationism, even.
When’s the last time you woke up and told yourself “I think something is going to happen today”? I think this is an innate feeling in us – for exploration. It’s our curiosity, our drive to experience new things. It’s what brought people to Antarctica, its what caused the Asians to cross the land bridge to the Americas… I think Dragons were possibly the innate fear, to balance our curiosity, something to create an equilibrium of fear and adventure. Plus they make for fantastical stories around a few pints of ale or a draught of wine.

To explain deeper – had our minds been full of dragon-synthesizing fear and fantastical caution-laden ideas, we never would have left Africa. Had our minds been full of the adventure-synthesizing motivation and fantastical prosperity-laden ideas, we may have been wiped out (because, curiosity killed the cat).

So perhaps this goes back to your analogy of the dragon & treasure – the treasure was why we explore, and the dragon was why we don’t. 

TheAppetizer (49) (@TheAppetizer) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

very very well said. its our fantasies that are the driving force for discoveries. Just the fact that there might be life on other planets compels us to go searching for them, and how many other discoveries have we made while searching for these (so far) phantoms? Its these almost impossible goals that we set for our selves that bring us to these beautiful new horizons.

ObsidianSoul (4) (@ObsidianSoul) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I’m pretty sure dragons and ‘dinosaurs’ are the same thing. Many reptiles continue to grow for their entire life, and legends would make them grow more, so the ‘dinosaur’ that became a dragon could have been a large alligator or crocodile like reptile, or other creature. I’m pretty sure knights slew ‘dragons’ whatever their true species turned out to be. People always have enjoyed slaying the biggest, baddest creatures around to inflate their egos, or maybe the animal has become a danger to their people. Either way, humans have historically killed many large creatures and the world is even now full of creatures we would have laughed off as fairytales…until they are discovered.

My belief in myths is that they are based in facts that get spread around, like the game “Telephone”, they get exaggerated and stretched as time passes. Some get stretched a lot, others less.

TheAppetizer (49) (@TheAppetizer) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

i totally see where youre coming from, but do you think that can be said for all myths? I think that most of them have a lot of latent meaning to them. And that a lot of significant messages can be extracted from these stories passed on through generations.

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