Drugs for depression/anxiety

AllysonDayle (@allysondayle) 8 years, 3 months ago

I’ve been taking a drug for depression and anxiety. It was really bad so I started taking it. It works I guess. I still think about all the same stuff I just don’t get worked up about anything. But I don’t want to have to take this everyday. I don’t want to depend on it. But it seems like when I go a day without it I feel like i’m literally just going to fall immediately down to rock bottom. I struggle with substance abuse and never really thought of this that way. until now. I don’t even know what i’m trying to uncover by posting this. It sort of just happened. Raaant raant rant. I guess the bigger picture here is I panic if I have to face my sober self for more than a couple hours. I just hate it. I feel trapped. I literally can’t even tell if my relationships with people are drug induced illusions or if i really do like somebodys company. loooosssst.

October 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Desirea (11) (@desireaj) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I can relate I took medication for over a year until I was finally tired of being numb. I can tell you from experience that no one truly understands what your going through and you would exhaust yourself trying. I still have “uninvited thoughts” but have learned to laugh about the and then choose something different. I bought a Journal – 4 years in the making… I write.. every single time I’m upset or can’t stand something I write about it and then I try to figure out why but even if I can’t figure out why it helps me create some space around the issue. Over thinking is destructive, try more and more to listen to you gut and not put so many words into describing feelings – it dulls them. Be aware of your feelings, create space around them and just for a moment sit and feel them. If sitting bothers you take a walk. Emotional reactions don’t last more than 10 minutes so anything after that you can reassure yourself your just holding on to the past..
I hope this helps… You’re not alone. You matter – discover yourself and you’ll learn to love it, I promise.

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AllysonDayle (3) (@allysondayle) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@desireaj, “Emotional reactions don’t last more than 10 minutes so anything after that you can reassure yourself your just holding on to the past”
Very helpful, thank you.

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Anonymous (18) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I’m the same way but I like drinking Alcohol, everything is simple then. I also love the feeling of popping adderall and being normal for a couple of hours, I have energy i’m happy people like me. Then i realize it’s not real and get super depressed.

But it’s an addiction, i’m so tempted to get a prescription i have a friend who could give me his. He won’t take them he said it was the worst thing he ever. Every time i mention it to him he tells me not too.

I don’t want to be a druggie, i’ve never done any hard drugs and i never will. I have a strong will i don’t even believe i can truly be addicted. But then again this is coming from someone who has only smoked weed, drank alcohol and done adderall.

I convinced myself a while ago that i would try LSD, and Shroom’s But i don’t need that My ex-gf was a crack , i couldn’t even tell. It scares me so much to think of that. I could end up just like her if i don’t take my health more seriously. I haven’t smoked in a long time but i want to. i started drinking a while ago but i just realized it’s a trick. I love adderall im not going to lie. But its so not worth it.

Please Be strong Allyson. Don’t be influenced by all of these lames out here that doing drugs is okay because it’s not.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle, slowly start learning and incorporating coping skills and look up dbt or cbt which are techniques therapists use but you can dissect them yourself. Journal all that stuff since its super easy to forget your newly recovered insights and get stuck in same ruts over and over again. It is like learning a long dance – get a few moves down at a time and refresh your memory often. Read empowering books along the road, you’ll find many more handy tips and knowledge really is power when it comes to learning about yourself and how the human mind / overwhelming emotions / behavior works. When you are ready to transition, make small progress into taking less or reserving it for emergency situations (obviously know how the drug works, for ex if its a benzo you could do that but with ssri’s you can’t really take it when needed since that will just make the brain chemistry much worse).
I understand how you feel, and such drugs likely alter people’s personalities so don’t be surprised to learn more new things about your sober self.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I would recommend you stop taking any drugs. For as long as you can. Drink lots of water and be true to your self. Take up an activity. Go outside, read, make art, anything. I’m not sure what drug you’re taking but it might help for a little bit, but the rest of the healing has to come from you.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@warriors41, sorry but this is a terrible idea if its an antidepressant. They really shouldnt be cold turkeyed unless you’re totally prepared. I had memory lapses and some pretty terrible stuff to muscle through and really wish I just halved the dosage through the weeks and let my brain adjust.

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@paintedbeings, You’re right, I oversimplified it. I’ve never used these drugs.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@warriors41, ideally, a brilliant idea but you need to know what kind of beast it is before knowing how to trap the fucker.
There are a plethora of forums devoted to people discussing experience with every psychiatric drug imaginable, their interactions, getting off and what happens, etc. Psychiatry can’t keep up with this shit so people used the internet to help each other. Just give it a google, OP. Youre not alone

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x (75) (@ParalyticDreams) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle, The simple answer, which isn’t too pleasing, these pills just don’t work in the long run. What they do is numb down your feelings in life. You described it yourself when you said, ” It works I guess. I still think about all the same stuff I just don’t get worked up about anything”. You don’t get worked up because your numbed out.

Know that you were not born with this issue. Thats the usual bullshit doctors tell people these days. That they have a chemical imbalance in their brains and these pills will help it stay balanced. Its not true. There’s a reason why I’ve seen so many posts on this website similar to yours, and heard from many of my friends who say, “they are sad and these pills sort of work but not really”.

Before you can be happy, you must love yourself. And before you love yourself, you must know yourself. Although @shomari, doesn’t seem to agree, psychedelics can make amazing differences in life, and truly can cure depression in a few hours if the right set and setting is implemented.

If you dont believe me, their are experiments that are being done in the UK that are looking very promising, as far as psychedelic drug use goes, to cure depression. Here’s two articles to show you where they are at right now:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9034669/Magic-mushrooms-could-treat-depression.html

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/jan/23/magic-mushrooms-psilocybin-depression-drug

However, I can tell you personally that LSD and mushrooms have both helped me tremendously with my depression. I am no longer “depressed” I just have an off day about once a month. Many people on this site will also back me, because I have talked to numerous people here that have been changed forever in an extremely positive way.

If you aren’t looking for a solution like this then I recommend meditating to get closer to yourself. You have to find ways to get to the core of your soul and ask yourself why your wasting time being sad when you are here RIGHT NOW, Alive!!! You are a life form having a crazy experience in a strange universe that is infinite and never ceases.

I wish you the best of luck, and I hope some of this helped :)

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Anonymous (18) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@paralyticdreams, Nope, i don’t disagree so thanks for the advice and the links. It’s mostly because of my own personal issues i don’t like drugs. I do believe in metal imbalances but i consider those imbalances to be more spiritual than mental, which to me is real.

I just need to get back to calming my thoughts. Meditation definitely works, I need to start meditating it again.

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Cpt (379) (@CptSleeze) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Please meditate for at least 5 minutes a day. Please just trust me. Explore meditation through youtube videos or websites whenever you can find motivation to. Look into how to sit, different types, different tips, and the benefits of it. I don’t have any answers, but this will only aid you in your quest. “You should sit for meditation for 20 minutes a day. Unless you have no time, then you should sit for an hour

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Cpt (379) (@CptSleeze) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Also, I have been having an AMAZING time and have been getting much more content and even happy in my life simply by understanding aspects of buddhism. But dont fret, buddhism is kinda the religion of solving the mind. Buddhism really has a lot of core understandings of the psychology of the mind. Here are my first amazing lessons which have really helped me understand the mind and thus work around it.

1.There is such joy in letting go. Think about when you crave or want something; at the time of the craving concentrate on how you feel. You feel anxious, tense and/or stressed. Example- if a really attractive hot/girl walks bye, or winning at gambling. However, concentrate on how you feel when you truly let things go. You sigh a breath of relief. You feel lighter, and yet you were still enlightened by the experience. Letting go is opposite of craving, one harms the mind and the other heals. (a small adjunct story is generosity is amazingly joyful as well. But only true generosity, such as dropping a tip when NO ONE will know you have done it)

2. All suffering or emotional pain comes from attachment. Such as my quote on my avatar: “if you want to fly, let go of everything that weighs you down.” This is not easy, you must train the mind. This is why buddhists use tools of meditation, if you train the mind you can master the mind. And if you understand why the mind becomes stressed you an avoid it all. Stay in the present moment. Do not look to the future, or to the past.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BuddhistSocietyWA

Please check these talks out, they are quite long and can be slightly boring. But listening to the whole thing, there are always a few truly enlightening concepts.

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AllysonDayle (3) (@allysondayle) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@paintedbeings, it’s a benzo so i guess just stopping altogether wouldn’t be a bad suggestion. but still not for me i don’t think.

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lurch (1) (@lurch) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

weed=gods antidepressent

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle, what isn’t for you? I highly recommend looking into supplements to help ease out of anxiety and if its a fast acting benzo, keep some around in case of attacks you can’t cope with until you feel confident that you can handle most situations. If its one of the slower, eight hour benz, then its up to you, whatever is comfortable. Sure, push the comfort zone, but the idea here is to re learn to cope while sober and form new behavior patterns that can become familiar to you. When looking up supplements, also consult forums and boards for anxiety – this will help you relate and give you a better idea of what to expect realistically. Very important to do your research in depth as some supplements will interact with meds or could have adverse reactions and give you opposite effects. Diet and exercise do wonders to help you feel empowered because, well, your brain is attached to the rest of you. Help it all.

@lurch
, weed doesn’t help everyone and in some cases can cause depression or panic attacks, please become more informed on how cannabis chemically works in the brain to have the reputation that it does as anti anx or antidep and why sometimes it does the opposite.

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lurch (1) (@lurch) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@paintedbeings, not everyone just most people and if your already depressed and anxios then why not try it, too many people these days are using pills to cure shit that if you look back a few years was never spoke of. plus these prescriptions are highly addictive and can kill you. cannabis is a herb and your talking about extra supplements and so am i!

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@lurch, wait, where did you read that I was advocating pills over weed? Advice to toke in itself is a solid one, i agree, but by no means an expected cure-all. Also, weed was not the same back in the days when pills were unheard of. I’ve had my first full-blown terrible panic attack thanks to a strand that I’ve learned to avoid, but I still stand by weed being helpful for understanding how to ease your anxiety. Just the way you presented it, some factors need to be taken in. I agree with you overall though, obviously

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lurch (1) (@lurch) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@paintedbeings, wasnt directed at you personally i mean the overall mentality that these drugs help….until you try to quit! :D

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@lurch, I think the drugs really had all the best intentions in mind until it fell into the wrong industry’s hands and began to be handed out without purpose other than to tune out. They can be helpful, but they are there to give you ability to cope with a phase while you learn how to handle your anxiety/depression/shit destroying your life. The issue is that they end up being a means, and a crutch, and the person could just keep taking them with no purpose… endlessly. That’s obviously terrible because it is treating the symptoms and never treating the cause. These pills were meant to give you the ability to treat the cause when you are disabled to the point of not having the breathing room to even think about trying to figure out what the heck to do. Also, if you’re talking about anti anxiety pills, they’re generally easy to quit… but antidepressants could have lasting or troublesome issues when you try to get off of them. I’ve been on both and quit both, so these are just opinions some years later. Weed can also get addictive and hard to quit. Yes, I’m aware that this is an ongoing arguement that it can’t be addictive, but if you’re using it to self-medicate, you’re… using.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Ahh, another multi-billion dollar industry. Yay Lily, Roach, etc.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

There’s no such thing as addiction to a non-bored person.

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ChielReemer (34)C (@Chiel-Reemer) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@All of you: wow, what a wonderfully open and honest conversation. Really impressed by the atmosphere. I hope @AllisonDayle feels supported by this community. I would!

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James (0) (@JayDP) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle,

Personally, I have always stood by the philosophy that I can sort myself no matter what it might be that afflicts me. The times I have taken medication has been for things like a headache or a flu. It never feels right but since it can get that bad, I take it to ease the symptoms.

With my depression (I went to my doctor and I was told it was depression), I have always been adamant that I would never take medication. I have managed to not go to any counselling so far and I have dealt with it rather well. I believe its how you deal with it and how you perceive how this will affect you. I accept there will be times I might need to “recharge” by taking time out to be by myself but for the most part I am incredibly happy and I don’t feel it at all. I’ve dealt with alot of what I have held inside and what has hurt me to the point I became depressed. I am still to deal with a few niggling feelings but in time, when I am ready I will overcome them. On a high note, I now have a job, great friends and in general. I am much better off than I was a year ago. Even if I did have a girlfriend, it was when we broke up that I actually realized the relationship was one of the reasons why I was so unhappy. It was then that I actually accepted that I was depressed.

So all in all. It literally is all about how you deal with it. More power to you if you believe that the medication is the best way to help you. I am not here to say what you can or cannot do. I thought I would register and reply to this topic to say what I have said.

I know I will never forget the journey I have undertaken to overcome my depression, along with the people who have inspired me to do this. It is also why I would love to become a teacher of some kind when I am older. To inspire others like the tutors, friends and family have inspired me through my darkest times.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle, You cant tell because drug induced states cause you to stop thinking rationally. You indulge drugs because you do not want to rationally process all the shit you do with your life, because you are worried you will be hit with a tonne of guilt about it.

Dwelling on things that have happened or may happen is no way to go through life, all you can do is your best, even if that is a dismal failure, it doesn’t matter, you have nothing to feel guilty about if you make a heartfelt effort in what you do, it is the rest of the world that fucks you, not you yourself.

Then you can go on to see how the world fucks people over, adapt to it and find better paths to tread. But first you have to get over yourself as the problem.

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fairy (0) (@lovelife) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@allysondayle, Hi, my sister was on anti-depressants and was feeling like a zombie, the doctor cut her does from 100mg down to 50mg then she became really depressed. I am a flower essence practitioner and I made her a blend of Dr Bach flower essences, you can buy the basic rescue remedy or look into the individual essences to see which essence will suit you best. http://www.healingherbs.co.uk/remedies/seven-emotional-groups/

Also I got her some 5ht, this replenishes the serotonin levels in the brain to bring them back into balance. It is a natural anti-depressant which will help build up that which has been depleted as anti-depressants release serotonin but do not restore it so sometimes can make things worse.

Reiki or spiritual or other types of healing can help you can add your name to weekly healing lists and receive healing from a distance. http://www.hdhfoundation.com/namesubmissionform.html

Hope this helps. x

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