Emotions / no Emotions?

IncarnationOfRealism (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago

I´ve noticed something that´s .. well i´d say strange.
It´s like i dont realy care about things. If im getting good grades at school i dont realy care. If im getting bad grades i dont care too. One year ago as i leaved my girlfriend that i had for a realy long time. I didnt care. I cant remember a situation in that ive been sad or realy happy. Sometimes im just a little bit down or in a good mood. Ive also never been annoyed by anything. I dont see any sense in living and i also dont see a sense in dying.
Anyone out there knows something about that or anyone got the same “thing”?

February 1, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Anonymous (512) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, There are many who desire to have such an attitude of indifference.

I am like you. While I am able to acknowledge my moods, my progresses and my transgressions, I am stirred little by them. This is beneficial in many ways. Frustration is rare. Anger is absent. Sadness is a memory. However, this sort of attitude is often perceived as troublesome to others. They misinterpret it as not caring, or “being cold.” Those terms are for them to create, not for you or I to dwell upon. And about not seeing sense in life or death…this is well. We’ve no say in either. We will wait for meaning to be cast upon our lives while we busy ourselves doing other things.

You and I, we are being ourselves.

How lovely a concept.

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, Dear sir, you may well be “enlightened” as the term goes. Your ego has maybe expired(wouldn’t that be great!?!). Just go with it. Just be. All just is. Don’t make good, don’t make bad. Don’t make happy, don’t make sad. Just be you so that others may see your LIght and realize their own.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47,

the first question i wanna ask is, do you use any mind altering substances on a regular basis? do you have a history of depression?

this is how i would answer your post’s title, emotions are the navigators, they point your mind to focus on something, logic is the captain, he makes the final decision as to where you go,

emotions should not be trusted with the final decision on their basis alone, there must always be a reason to act as well,

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@optimystic,

but why do you think you are that way? the way you describe reality is familiar to me many years ago, for me personally, i came to understand this was done out of fear and a false feeling of superiority and that i justified how i treated others with, ‘its just me’,

please don’t think i am assuming your situation, just know i approach it with this perspective in mind, if your reasoning is different, i would like to hear why if you wouldn’t mind,

also, historically, socially and emotionally, how is it? when did you decide to not feel as much? another of my perspectives is that this is a wall we build to deal with reality,

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Anonymous (216) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, Maybe you need a change; something that will challenge you.

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acexiii (5) (@acexiii) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, how can enlightenment be defined as getting nothing out of life? Our minds and bodies were crafted on this planet to find joy in the things that have evolved along with us. Enlightenment to me is an understanding of this, and viewing life from a perspective of gratitude while allowing the beauty of the world around us to overtake our senses and consciousness.

I feel that our emotions are our compass in this pursuit. We are most happy when we are moving in a direction of truth, and sad when we move away from it. Learning to master the call of your feelings is essential to finding yourself and truth.

From a medical perspective, not finding joy in anything is one of the hallmark signs of depression – not feeling like you have a purpose to your life and feeling that your life has no meaning. I’m not saying that this is true for your case, but I believe that our minds were not created to live in indifference.

So I’ll ask this – what, if anything DO you care about? What things in the world fascinate you? What things repulse you? Which human achievements or injustices have you seen that have stirred your inner being? Focus on these, whatever they may be, and make them your purpose. We humans are a part of the universe that is lucky enough to be able to have a conscious impact on the rest. A rock can fully serve its purpose just fine with indifference, but we can not.

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, Im not doing any kinds of drugs (well sometimes i drink alc and i do smoke cigs) and Ive never been depressed or something.
@optimystic, I realy like the way youre seeing it .
@acexiii, No there is nothing i care about.
And well if you think about the universe and the human race at one point you have to admit there is no sense in it . But im ok with that. Everytime i talk to people about that theyre like ´oh you dont have bigger feelings? isnt that sad?´ but sometimes if i see how fast emotions are getting easy things complicated i think its a better way of living.

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acexiii (5) (@acexiii) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, A better way of living is to see no point in living? I can’t agree with you there. And as far as the ‘sense’ behind the universe and the things that happen within it, we don’t know enough to make a claim one way or another.

I personally live with faith that there are greater things occurring in the universe than we can currently comprehend. However, if there’s one thing history can tell us is that we’ve made HUGE strides in understanding the universe and our own origins. Is there an end to it? Is there an ultimate understanding that we can one day achieve? I don’t know, but what I do know is that I would rather be a contributor to a greater understanding and not just stand idly by until I die.

I want to die knowing that humanity will have benefited from my efforts, whatever little impact they may have made. And if I’m wrong? So what, I’d have lived a full life and others will still have benefited.

This is a strong statement, but one I truly believe – If you’re not working to make things better, you’re wasting your time.

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Anonymous (512) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, Why do I think I am this way? Shit if I know! I guess I just got to this point somehow. I’m not complaining about it. Why should I? I never really “decided” not to feel much. That just kind of happened, too. I don’t exaggerate emotions because I don’t see the point in doing so. I take shit at face value.

@xxtobixx47, word

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@acexiii, Hey, thanx for the reply. I don’t advocate killing the emotions or not having any is a “good” thing or any kind of thing. Yes, we are in this life, in a manner, and I certainly do enjoy it very much. I’m speaking on a different “level” (lack of any better way to say it) – I love life, and heck, not being bothered by a seesaw of emotional swings contributes to it. You pose to me: “So I’ll ask this – what, if anything DO you care about?” People. Others. I have been working with young people for over 25 years as a mentor, employer and friend – I have sought to contribute just a little to insure their happiness and well being. “What things in the world fascinate you?” Nature. The only “thing” in this world not made by man. “Which human achievements or injustices have you seen that have stirred your inner being?” Achievements: when people realize their own nature and can recognize the bs of worldly pursuits and the attached “emotions” that will culminate in suffering. Injustices: isn’t the world fraught with them? And where do they come from? Wrong thinking, wrong action, misunderstanding, indoctrination that things of this world are important, greed and lust for power that ultimately corrupts everything. Finally: I am one of the most happiest and positive people that you will meet. To serve you or anyone is the only purpose I can find for even existing – for “me” anyway. Thus, my attempt at conveying ideas may seem to conflict with this which is not the case at all. It’s just a matter of attaching significance and descriptiveness to most of what you mentioned in reply to my 8 sentences. I’m sorry, it’s just very difficult to put into words that which is word-less.

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Dick (364) (@dick) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I am similar to the author, but not quite the same. I have a ‘wave’ theory…
Emotions are like a waves with their peaks and troughs, the peaks being positive emotions and the troughs being negative. Waves have an amplitude and a frequency which define our emotional being.
We can adjust both the amplitude and frequency (duration) but not independently of one another, the peaks are a reflection of the troughs.
So if you are prone to fits of elation you will be prone to fits of depression or anger. I don’t think we can control our emotions, but we can control how long we stay in a given state (frequency).
I actively and consciously reduce anxiety in my life by addressing negative emotions decisively. Emotions are triggers for action, and there’s no point continuing to squeeze the trigger after the bullet has left the chamber. So the period of time that I experience anger or sadness is short. Unfortunately these are waves we are talking about so the duration of periods of elation ultimately shortens too.
By addressing the trough frequency we in turn reduce the amplitude of the wave. Over time, things that used to cause you anxiety don’t any more, but alas the same goes for things that once brought us joy.
I am willing to sacrifice the peaks for the troughs, because the troughs eat away at you more than the peaks build you up. The longer you are in a trough the worse off you will be. So I live in a world of low amplitude, high frequency waves.
Our memories are what save us or damn us. Bask in the peaks and marginalize the troughs. Life becomes an experience of retrospective joy, and we use these memories to guide us in the present, to pursue the things that bring us joy and to avoid the things that do not.
Don’t be a slave to your emotions, embrace them as a tool to be used to your advantage.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, You are either a sociopath who is detatched from emotion or you are neutral. A neutral person is more an observer or witness to existence not a player in it. A sociopath does get heavily invested in existence but is apathetic and cold.

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Well a sociapath has got social problems the only problem i have is sometimes im getting misunderstood if everybody wants to go to a club and id like more to just be in a normal bar. In understanding other people im realy good and I think Im having less problems with other people then most others. Well sometimes i think im thinking more about my actions then everybody else. I’m analyzing people and their actions and most times i can tell what they want to do before they know it. Sometimes i see other humans as another race. Well i dont know precise definitions of being a sociopath or a neutral person. What do you think i am?
@acexiii, Well a bettet way of living is (in my opinion) science and probability. It’s more likely that we will find aliens someday then finding something like a god etc. So most likely there is no sense and if there was one – the probability of an existence thats infinite is so small that there cant be a sense in our life. I dont know if thats well explained sorry for that if you understood german i may explain it better .

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, Well a sociopath doesn’t acknowledge they have social problems, they can’t, but if you understand how people feel and can anticipate their responses, I’d say you are neutral. There are a number of people like this, a relatively small percentage of humanity but they do exist. I consider such people as evaluaters, once they glean enough information they tend to become visionaries.

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Well what should i say – i hope youre right . :D

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Anonymous (254) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I’m taking a shot!

Point A, the starting point.

Point B, the destination point.

The space in between can be called “fixation”, where many people with emotional deficits or shallow effect garner gratification of feeling. Think, business men, politicians, mafia bosses etc.

When people don’t have a worth while destination, there is no conviction of fixation, no impetus for emotional reaction – oft times they can experience apathy, or boredom.

Probably doesn’t apply to you, now I think about it. You seem to care about this, and that would make you the world’s least ambitious go-getter.

Find out what you care about and then, you know…care about it. Acceptance of apathy is weak. It’s also marinaded in self deception, which is boring.

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mimic, Sorry i didnt understand your whole text but i think most of it. Well honestly ive tried to find something i care about several times. But ive never found anything. Well maybe i have to try it harder :D

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bri (2) (@hazybrainwaves) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47 I’ve dealt with this same issue(for lack of a better term) for years but I realized this is an ideal state of mind to have. For years I had horrible fits of rage and sadness that I assumed was just hormone related. Once I grew into my body and what not these fits went away and I became just as you had put it, sad on occasion but overall just an average content mood. I was puzzled by my lack of emotional response to almost everything and seriously considered myself a sociopath for quite sometime. My current boyfriend referred to me as a “rock” because of this prior to us dating. Though as I watched girls my age get extremely upset over little to nothing, reacting on emotional impulse, and overall embarrassing themselves as a result I realized how thankful I am to have control over my emotions. As was stated by another user, we are able to be our true selves, our minds are powerful enough to not be obscured by suffering and emotional turmoil that life can through your way sometimes. This state is very similar to enlightenment but not quite. If you feel you do not have a purpose in life quite yet give it time, i’m sure whatever you were put here to do will bestow itself onto you soon enough. I’m sure your purpose will be a great one since you were clearly gifted with a strong mind!

:^)

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hazybrainwaves, Wow thank you for that answer :D But – anyway sometimes people do ask you because you cant always act like you care. How did you explain that to other people?

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bri (2) (@hazybrainwaves) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47 I usually just tell people i’m not an openly emotional person, not sure what they infer from that but they usually don’t ask any further questions about it. Works for me! :)

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IncarnationOfRealism (15) (@xxtobixx47) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@hazybrainwaves, Well, thank you i guess :D

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Searcher (1) (@anattempt) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, This sounds like a good thing to me. You may have really good control of your ego, as someone else mentioned. I’ve been trying to get control of my ego for a while now, it is not an easy thing to do, but once mastered life is much easier.

Nothing really matters in this life, because it all comes to an end. To some that may seem depressing, but if it isn’t to you, that is great.

Also, I personally think that happiness is a reaction, not an emotion. So lack of happiness does not mean that you are sad. Lack of happiness means you are content. Humans aren’t meant to feel happy all time. A neutral feeling towards things is a very healthy perspective, in my opinion.

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