False dependency on drugs to become high? Your thoughts please.

 Matterhorn (@matterhorn36)7 years, 6 months ago

There’s an quote somewhere on this site that goes like this:

“Being high is our natural state, and must be gotten by our own doingness. The more we use marijuana or other drugs, the more we depend on them to feel high. Therefore the less capable we become of being high on our own.” -Lester Levenson

First of all let me say that I do not agree nor do I disagree with this. I come to you seeking truth.
Is it true? Is there validity in this quote?
If so, how can we achieve such a high? How can a human go about inducing an all natural self high?

I want your thoughts and experiences.

March 22, 2014 at 5:29 pm
hello (113) (@smortlur51) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

What this means to me is that we come to depend on drugs to induce a high, and that one cannot create a natural high. This turns into whenever one is sober, then that is when one is just “regular”. For me, a good source of a natural high comes from music. I love music, I listen to hours of it everyday. I can lose myself in it, and sometimes I let it take me to new heights and I feel through the music. Another way is going to raves. Obviously I take drugs at raves, but I also sometimes rave sober. Both experiences are enjoyable to me. When I rave sober it can be better than if I were on something.

But back to the quote. So when you get used to using the drugs to get high, you train yourself to believe that only through the drugs can you get high. But wouldn’t you say that, I don’t know when you have sex that’s a high? When you are with your friends on a summer day hanging out on a beach with not a care in the world, isn’t that a high? If you play sports or are in some sort of competition and are completely focused on that moment to accomplish a certain task, is that not a high? I personally haven’t done this but can imagine, if you were skydiving and flying through the air, isn’t that a high (literally too)? When you have some sort of problem and it has been bothering you for a while, and you suddenly think of the perfect solution in a moment of clarity, is that not a high? When you are in the middle of a deep meditation and finally achieve that point of nothingness and everythingness, of being one with yourself and all around you, is that not a high?

We convince ourselves that we can only get high on drugs, but when you think about it drugs enhance our perception of life. When you look at it that way, merely living is a high in and of itself.

Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

Exercise, sex and mindfulness.

Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

“Is it true? Is there validity in this quote?”


“If so, how can we achieve such a high? How can a human go about inducing an all natural self high?”

-It’s incredibly simple. It’s not about adding or changing anything, only removing what is corrupt.

High is the natural state, go back to the natural state and you shall be high.
There is nothing natural about normal people’s lives, you’re all fucked up beyond recognition, but since you were brought into it before you knew any other reality you cannot see just how bad it is.

It’s still an easy adjustment to make though. Because it is so simple.
But that’s also the biggest obstacle. Because you’re taught to always overlook the simple truths and look for fancy, glitzy, advanced and usually expensive stuff.

But… the truth is ALWAYS simple.
And so is your true nature.

Living in “human society” renders you weak, confused, enfeebled, rootless, disconnected from reality, and dependent on others. And from this state of being comes a lot of messed up reasoning and values, to help you thrive among the fallen, to justify submission and deception. And so on.

Get rid of that mess in your head, and you shall be truly high again.

You are not wired for sitting on your ass, watching tv and filing tax reports. You’re wired for a life of action and wonder. Your ego is there for survival purposes, not enjoyment. Your imagination and creativity are your tools, not your masters. Feelings are just indications of how you fare, not some big truth or something to devote your life to.

You care about a bunch of rubbish that doesn’t matter, because you’ve been told that it’s important and right and yadda yadda.


Don’t take my word for it, go see for yourself. It’s easy.

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