Free will and an all knowing creator: HOW?

 carachancellor (@carachancellor)6 years, 7 months ago

Curiosity is a wonderful thing.

If you’re like me and have an unquenchable desire to know the “how and why” behind every aspect of your life than this post is for you.

Have you ever wondered how the concept of free will lines up with notion that the creator, God, knows what you will do and when you will do it? (And for my atheist readers, this post is you too. Not believing in a higher power does not mean that you have to shut out every divinely related topic.) Stay with me. Some of the best conversations of my life have been with people who don’t claim divine belief.

Free will means that we, as humans, have the choice to do whatever we want, whenever we want. I do not believe in pre-destination. That would negate the idea of an all loving God who clearly gave us free will. If I wanted to jump off a bridge after typing this blog I could. I do not believe that jumping off a bridge would have been in God’s “life plan” for me because their isnt one, at least not one that specific. The only pre-destination that God has for us is heaven, everything else is our choice. Good or bad, we pick and claim it. The concept of an all loving God comes in when we realize that no matter what we choose, the creator of the universe will bless it.

I have heard it said among my friends that “God knows what we will choose.” In five years or 10 years… he knows. At first I did not agree. If this is true than free will is an illusion. That theory would mean that we are no more than game pieces with a pre-set course, under the illusion that we are free beings when in actuality we are puppets attached to a divine string. No way. That is not love.

This theory about what God knows and doesn’t know about our future choices, however, would be possible if we consider the fact that God doesn’t work on a clock like we do. Human’s invented time. Yesterday, tomorrow and a week from now… we created the clock concept in order to manage society and synchronize its actions.

What is time to God? For all we know, today and tomorrow could be happening at the same time… trippy. I know.

Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to this question. If you’re like me and want to explore the idea of free will and an all knowing God further, read the article that I attached below.

Let me know if you find the answer! I am still searching.

http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/alevelphilosophy/data/AS/IdeaofGod/FreeWillGod.pdf

October 22, 2014 at 11:54 am
Anonymous (12) (@) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Great to see this. Here comes a quote…. feel it……. ok…. “Your free will of choice is the architect of your destiny” ehehee DAMN I love when creation comes on full bore like that!

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Ray (4) (@brainofmorbius) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Cara:

If you are referencing Christian religion and the Bible in terms of free will and God knowing everything you will do, this is not true. God does not know your future. He chooses not to know, otherwise he would have to force you to take the actions that guarantee that future in order to remain infallible.

The Bible explains this clearly but you won’t garner it from a superficial reading of it or from what some religious person tells you.

God can be all powerful, all knowing, and at the same time not know your future or what choices you will make.

That does not mean that you don’t have a likely path, you do, we all do. But you still can choose otherwise. And that does not mean that God does not have an individual plan for each person, a desire for the best good to come of your life. But again, you can choose otherwise.

Concepts of infinity are difficult for people to grasp superficially. There seem to be inherent logical inconsistencies. But this is just a limited mindset of being human…

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carachancellor (91) (@carachancellor) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

“That does not mean that you don’t have a likely path, you do, we all do. But you still can choose otherwise. And that does not mean that God does not have an individual plan for each person, a desire for the best good to come of your life. But again, you can choose otherwise.”

I took this from what you said because I agree 100 percent. A likely path is just a learned tendency. Yes, I do believe that God can see the thing that would bring us the most happiness but if we don’t choose it than my God… the God who loves unconditionally, will bless my path regardless.

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Ray (4) (@brainofmorbius) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Exactly.

And ultimately, (personally) I believe that our destinies extend far beyond this life. I don’t mean this in the sense that “we are all going to heaven” but in the sense that most people live unfulfilled lives. It doesn’t take much to look around and realize that the vast majority of human beings go through their lives with unfulfilled dreams. Why is this? Even in the advanced western nations where we have so much free time and wealth, more often than not, people don’t live out their dreams. They get some miserable, yet comfortable job and drift into a family situation and stay there their entire lives….

So, I think the destiny of each individual is broader. If you imagine each person as a book, I would say this life is just one page in that book. God sees the promise of the entire book, but we just dream of it.

Does that mean I believe in reincarnation? Not necessarily. I believe that fulfillment comes, but over a broader span of time than most expect.

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Ray (4) (@brainofmorbius) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I’m also reminded of the movie Forrest Gump. Did you ever see it? At the end Forrest questions whether his mother was right that we all have a destiny, or Lt. Dan, that we are all drifting in the wind, and his conclusion was that maybe both were happening at the same time…

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carachancellor (91) (@carachancellor) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

It is a question that will take more time to answer than this lifetime allows. It is virtually unsolvable…

But I am fully open to any and all possibilities when it comes to how time aka past, future and present interact.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I love your posts. For the last couple of years since I’ve joined this site, I have enjoyed converstations about this, and I’ve even posted articles about it myself.

You said something that not many people realize regarding time – today and tomorrow could be happening at the same time. Tomorrow could come before yesterday, according to the world of quantum mechanics. Time truly is a manmade concept.

I also love what you said about wanting to know the “how and why” behind every aspect of your life. My entire life I’ve always held an innate curiosity about the world and the universe and existence itself. I’ve always wanted to know WHY anything exists at all. The best answer I’ve come across is this:

http://everythingforever.com/ywexist.htm

Hope you enjoy.

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