I can never get motivated enough to be a good worker. This is true for any job that I have ever had. In fact, I’m going to be late for work right now and I just can’t give a fuck.
I think jobs are ridiculous. I think that they exist because some humans like bossing other humans around so they can make themselves rich. If people would stop being selfish, we would be able to regulate ourselves in our communities and get the work done that needs to be done. Instead, we have to take jobs that don’t suit our personalities or strengths just to prove we can work before we even get the possibility of finding a job that suits us.
Then, the rich people separate out education and make access to it based on wealth, so that they then have the justification that they NEED to boss everyone else around because they are smarter and it’s for everyone’s good. But they’re the ones who eroded public education in the first place.
Not to mention the fact that only certain “types” of people get to own or run businesses – otherwise, you are stuck in the black market if you want to be entrepreneurial.
I’ve always hated this game and I hate playing it.
Sex, control, and money are closely related it seems, but I still believe the main reason people buy into the system is that they are under the constant threats of homelessness and starvation. Does anybody really want to give away most of their years to society? Does anybody feel that deep of a sense of duty? I think not.
@theskafish, I agree with you but the sad thing is that a lot of people will tell you “that’s life” or something and to stop being a pussy and deal with it, those kind of people consider themselves strong, you know. What I find awkward though is that the fear of homelessness and starvation isn’t first on the list that drives everyone crazy. My thoughts are that it’s a little more shameful than lacking a sense of duty. I mean that I’d be really happy if was selling groceries in a small village if everyone wanted to sell groceries too.
@birdflyinghigh, I think I know what you’re talking about, though the men rejecting the same game get exploited a lot too so not protecting it instead of rejecting it is a better way in my opinion. Are we living for the mere purpose to teach kids how to deal in a human world that doesn’t always learn from its mistakes? No one is ever really evolving mentally. Everyone’s just comparing their stress levels with each other. I guess that’s too general but I find it to be true. :)
You want stuff, you work to get it, you get stuff, you work to keep it, then you die and loose it all, if you weren’t dead you would realize you worked for nothing, or that your kids don’t have to do all the work you did to get all the stuff you got.
I always blow what I get as soon as I can, because I stress about dying before I get to enjoy it, and I have no kids that society demands I provide for. But if I did, I’d provide them with just enough for what they need to provide for themselves, then they can be all or nothing, just like their pappy.
” my other beef with capitalism is that it only provides to those who solve problems, it only really cares for the people who have left-brain pursuits (there are always exceptions of course, but they are exceptions – few and far between). What if the things that interest you are more introspective? What if all you really want to do with your life is improve yourself? What if you’re interested in making good books/movies/paintings/music/etc. and that’s what you want to do? I’m not talking about stars here either, a person can build up a great deal of skill and never become a star. What if you want to travel, or what if you want to read books all day? What if you are making a late start in a right-brained pursuit, you love it and want, no, NEED to be more than a hobbyist to be fulfilled but are still a great deal away from being able to sell any of your works, but you’ve already grown up, aka when people no longer respect that your life has intrinsic value? It’s nonsensical to expect us all to have life figured out by age 18 but that’s how the school system works.”
If you want to be sustained by a society for reading books and being creative, then your level of creativity will be rewarded by the society in monetary form. Authors write books and get payed to work (JK Rowling) Painters paint. Computer technicians build entire worlds from CGI. They have found a way of being both part of a society and being an individual. They are part of a whole and peruse self improvement during their time as an individual. They travel on vacation and live in symbiotic harmony with the system around them.
” “WHY DO PEOPLE BUY INTO THIS SYSTEM???
For men, it is to make money so you can impress girls. You want to have money so when you meet a girl who fucking blows your mind, you can pretend you have control and show her a good time, so she will fall in love or fuck you or whatever. You engage in this struggle to be able to have gifts and be a good mate for the women who bring you to your knees.”
-I make money to pay my rent, pay for food, and pay for my education. The kind of men who use money to impress girls generally end up with half of it gone and 18 years of reminders for their shallow behavior. Thank you for generalizing half the human species.
“For women? We play the game because we either want control because we are naturally controlling people (not always a bad thing, there can be benevolent rulers) or we are trying to prove to ourselves and others that we are just as good as men. We see it as shameful that we would rely on a man for money and a means of living (as I think is probably good; it is way too stressful to provide for 1, let alone 2 + kids on 1 salary).”
You are okay with being controlling because it feels natural? Filling your heart with vengeance because you have been victimized only creates more victims. How do you think the people you want to control will feel? Why do you have to prove anything? Who hurt you?
“Sex, control, and money are closely related it seems, but I still believe the main reason people buy into the system is that they are under the constant threats of homelessness and starvation. Does anybody really want to give away most of their years to society? Does anybody feel that deep of a sense of duty? I think not.”
“You want stuff, you work to get it, you get stuff, you work to keep it, then you die and loose it all, if you weren’t dead you would realize you worked for nothing, or that your kids don’t have to do all the work you did to get all the stuff you got.
I always blow what I get as soon as I can, because I stress about dying before I get to enjoy it, and I have no kids that society demands I provide for. But if I did, I’d provide them with just enough for what they need to provide for themselves, then they can be all or nothing, just like their pappy.”
I feel that deep sense of duty. I was given 12 years of free education in a society that may not be perfect, but is one of the best to allow autonomous spiritual growth. I want others to have that opportunity and I will work hard so the legacy of free men does not die with me. Every one of our actions ecos throughout eternity. You will never truly die.
My father worked hard his entire life and passed both idea, ethic, and heirlooms to me. I will do the same to my children as well as those I lead. Ideas will change, evolve, and spread, but they will not die at the end of a persons mortal life.
“I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” -Bansky
@wilhelm, only the stars really get sustained for their creative efforts though. I said, what if you take up a right-brained interest later in life, and you need time to practice and learn the craft, you need time to develop your own style, and you need time to figure out what you’re trying to say with your works. Obviously you are not going to be a star from the get-go, it will take much practice and much discovery of influences to develop your own style. You will need to make up for all the lost time that you should have spent in childhood and adolescence working on your skill, it’s just that back then you didn’t know you wanted it. And yet, here at least, under capitalism, we are expected to know ourselves fully, we are expected to know what we want out of the rest of our lives by 18 years, knowing so little of the possibilities.
@birdflyinghigh, You sound quite…. Passionate about this. But you also seem rash, and illogical. You said you were a good worker, you’ve gone to school, you’ve done good jobs, yet you’re stuck with shitty jobs. So to me, it sounds like you’re just pissed that you have a shitty job, and aren’t doing anything to get out of it (or perhaps you are working to get out of it, you just didn’t talk about that here.)
Regardless, jobs/work is essential to live. You want food? Go work to make money, and buy it, or work in cultivating the land and growing it for yourself. Either way, you have a job to do. Either your job is that of a farmer, or a wage slave to make money to buy food. (Or perhaps not a wage slave, perhaps you’ll have a nice job. But like I said, from the sounds of it you’re a pissed off wage slave.)
I really like the quote “Go out and build your dreams, or someone else will pay you to build their’s for them.’
@birdflyinghigh, I absolutely love my job. I’m 19 and I work for a company called Embracing Autism. I go to people with developmental disability’s homes and provide therapy, administer medication, and hang out with them. My bosses are wonderful people who really care about making the world a better place, they all came from the offices of Goodwill and formed this company just a year ago. I drive 35 minutes with no mileage pay three times a week, which is a bummer and I would not do for any other company, but they give me amazing opportunities for me to build a career. I’m aware that I’m in the lucky few. But I have an amazing job that I love, that works around my college classes, and gives me enough money for me to eat, drink, and the occasional special things. It does exist. Not everything that pays you to work is fucked up.
@beyond, “I agree with you but the sad thing is that a lot of people will tell you “that’s life” or something and to stop being a pussy and deal with it, those kind of people consider themselves strong, you know. What I find awkward though is that the fear of homelessness and starvation isn’t first on the list that drives everyone crazy.”
Yea, I’ve encountered my fair share of people who say stuff like “that’s life, stop being a pussy, etc.” when I say that I want to use my life for fulfilling myself, and they do consider themselves strong, but they just seem like they are masochistic to me. You get one life, one youth, one chance to be happy and fulfilled, and one chance to get it right for yourself. Why they waste it on this ego front, notching up their “tough guy” belts is beyond me. How do they respect and even praise a system that is ultimately, like I said, backed by coercion?