Has anybody here heard of the Gospel of Thomas? its a lost book of the bible that denies certain beliefs such as the resurrection. It says the kingdom of God comes within and I know you hethens have mentioned this before. Has anyboy here
I’ve heard of it, and I intend to read it if I ever get my hands on it. I think both the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary are really interesting texts in that they contradict some of what was accepted into the canon for the Bible. I don’t really know too much about them, but if you know anything else can you please share? I’d love to hear more about them, and maybe we can get a better discussion going on this.
I’ve read a book several years ago on Gnostic Christianity that had quite a few references to the Thomas Gospel in it, with direct quotes and explanations but can’t comment because I don’t remember much of it off the top of my head. Also interested in hearing what you think of it.
here is a link to the gospel of thomas translations:http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
I think i remember reading about one of them in the power of now. Eckhart tolle refer to -“After all, no one lights a lamp and puts it under a basket, nor does one put it in a hidden place. Rather, one puts it on a lampstand so that all who come and go will see its light.”- this saying as a reference to consciousness. One saying described the kingdom of heaven as “It’s like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky.” This is a strange metaphor because if the kingdom of heaven is found within what can it possibly be referring to. thoughts on these sayings ?
I heard about it, but I am not sure what you mean by ‘gospel’, since I am not so familiar with English terms concerning religion (superficial yes, but not when it goes deeper).
But when you are referring to writings on which the bible is based on, and when you are referring to the gospel of Thomas as one of the oldest ones, and the one that is not included into the bible but left out for I do not know what reasons, then yes I know what you are talking about.
Definitely a discussion with a high ‘conspiracy theory’ caliber.
Ok, so after reading all of that, I’ve come to a conclusion. I think what it’s getting at is consciousness, or the state of a “soul,” and how that is the center of everything. In my mind, as I was reading this, I kept getting the image of a ring, circle, or a sphere. Everything is one and everything is linked to everything else; there are those who realize this and become appalled at the world around them, and then there are those who don’t see it at all and try to transform the world into something it’s not. Also, it was very nice to see some of the verses I learned growing up and was familiar with being put into a different context. As to the mustard seed and tree saying, I think what it’s getting at is the idea that heaven exists within us, but as we grow and spread our own love, understanding, and knowledge to others, it expands and branches out to include others in this heaven as well. It is both within and without us, combining with others while still remaining our own.
@Megan so you are you saying in the same manner of expansion like jesus’s teachings? That would make sense, if so, because jesus was a physical manifestation of God, thus creating an extremely successful expansion of his “mustard seed.” This also makes me think of, because when people talk about expanding positive aspects of consciousness, they call it planting seeds of consciousness.
I could tell you quite a lot about the Gospel of Thomas, but since this is my first posting I’ll try to keep it shorter than I could!
In around the year 350 AD, the Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and began a process of editing the books which at that time made up the “bible” as it was. The result was that many existing texts, including the gospel of Thomas, the gospel of Philip, the gospel of Truth, were removed from the bible and destroyed. Only those books which concorded with teachings of the time were kept. They were lost forever.
Then in the 1940s, a collection of ancient texts were found in Egypt (which are now referred to as the Nag Hammadi library) – try googling that for more info. These texts included some of those which had been destroyed in the years following Emperor Constantine. It is thought by some that these were parts of the earliest bibles used by the very earliest Christian churches – i.e. immediately after the life of Jesus. These very early Christians are known as Gnostics – from the Greek word for “knowledge”.
For more info on all of this, try reading “The Bible – the biography” by Karen Armstrong. Also, here in the UK, you can buy “The Gospel of Thomas” on Amazon, and other previously lost gospels.
Sorry if that all sounds a bit preachy and please don’t take my word as “gospel” ;) but do some internet searching on these and I promise you’ll find it incredibly interesting!
Great site by the way!
@Zach: That’s exactly what I was going for. =) But more than just his teachings, it’s the growth and spread of knowledge and understanding.
@Damo: The link Zach put up here earlier actually goes to the Nag Hammadi library online. I knew roughly the history behind it, but I didn’t actually realize how many gnostic texts existed. I think I have an awful lot of reading to do in my free time. ;) Thanks for the post and the info though, I found it very interesting and useful. And on here, don’t worry about keeping your posts short. Lengthy ones are welcome and accepted as long as they keep the discussion moving forward. Welcome to the community!